Support your troops?

Curiosity

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Good analogy - in our towns and cities, we expect to be protected and the laws obeyed and someone has to do the job - no matter how unpleasant and even violent in some cases.

It would be a great world if we needed none of these - no police, no military - only emergency workers for fire and life threatening events on a domestic level.

Think it will ever happen? Are we ever gonna learn to get along without a conflict somewhere?

The problems could be solved by investing in the solutions instead of spending huge amounts of money creating warfare.:rolleyes:
 

hermanntrude

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hmm I meant no dishonour, that's for sure, but I do think that anyone who joins the services can expect people to shoot at them. that's why i wouldn't do it.

sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery
 

Gonzo

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I wouldn't compare soldiers to police officers or fire fighters. The police and fire fighters are in our cities protecting us. Our soldiers are fighting in foreign wars that have nothing to do with protecting our country. If someone tried to invade and they were fighting them at our door then they would be protecting us. Our soldiers are not protecting me right now. In fact, there presence in Afghanistan is only increasing the chance of a terrorist attack. Studies show that whenever a Muslim country is invaded that more Muslims around the world join terrorist organizations. The chance of a terrorist attack on Canada has increased since we got involved in this so called war on terror. This notion that we have to get them before they get us is stupid. We are only making more enemies.
 

Minority Observer84

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It's funny how a lot of Canadians make a distinction between us and the States. We are esentially the same people. Brothers of the same mother. If you slap my lil brother, I can assure you, you will feel the weight of my immediete response.
Same People ? i think not we are two diffrent countires who happen to share a border and common history that does not mean we suite up and join whatever ill fated adventure the us get's itself involved in .
As much as I am sure the US entered Afganistan for oil. Our Troops are there to weed out the Taliban and its supporters. All the while giving aid and comfort to the civilian peoples of Afganistan.
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The taliban are part of the civilian people in afgahnistan they are an elelment of thier society and if we ever hope to build a safe and free afghanistan these elements have to be engaed in DISSCUSSION . They have populat support in the south of the country and that is a fact we can no longer ignore or overlook engaing them in disscussion is the only way to end the insurgancy in afghanistan .


9/11 wasn't an attack on the US alone. It was an attack against the western lifestyle. The "WORLD" Trade center is not a solely "AMERICAN" target and was the financial hub of the globe..
ERRRRR wrong 9/11 was an attack on the us alone as a result of us forgien policy if u read bin laden's demands Prior to 9/11 u would understand none of them included anythign about what we do in our own countries . if i remember correctly his demands included :
Complete halt of us support for Isreal in it's offenisve against arabs in the west bank
Complete halt of support for coruppt arab goverments in the middle east (ie the saudis )
Complete withdrawl of US forces from the muslim holy lands (Again the saudis )
Notice a trend here of his three main demands ( one which was soley to gather support amoung arabs i don't think he cares about the west bank one way or another )two relate to his country he doesn't care what americans do in the states only what they do in his part of the world and how they affect his people .
Don't forget, Canadians died in the WTC on 9/11 to. I'm not all for just remembering them sweetly once a year. I'm all for getting some pay back. Not just for them either. For the rest of the men, women and children that perrished on that day.
"Eye for an eye leaves us all blind " Pay back is exactly what this is about sadley instead of actualyl aressting the criminal who did this the us chose to invade iraq and our presence in afghnistan allows them to commite more forces in iraq truth is the US started this sess pool and we are cleaning up after them .
The Taliban allowed their country to foster evil and enflicted evil upon its own citizens under the guise of religion. Removing the global terrorist threat, as well as, freeing the peoples of Afganistan from tyranny, is exactly what our military was ment for. I believe it is the exact action Lester B. Pearson would have wanted the Canada/UN to change for the better. Not sit back and watch idly on the tube as more planes fell from the sky or dove in to CIVILIAN targets.
Freeing the people of afghanistan didn't seem to matter to anyone till they attacked the us the hypocrisy of that statment shocks me the dam west was buying guns for the taliban when they were fighting the russines it seems that so long as they pick thier enemey right they can inflict as much evil on the afghan people as they want utter BS .
 

Researcher87

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Damn the last two people really hate the armed forces.

Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.

Wrong!!
 

Curiosity

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hmm I meant no dishonour, that's for sure, but I do think that anyone who joins the services can expect people to shoot at them. that's why i wouldn't do it.

sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery

Hi Hermann

I just now saw this post - if you mean it to mean me - thanks - no harm done at all at all. Sorry I took so long in responding.
 

Gonzo

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Researcher87, where did anyone say that the armed forces are thugs? Don't blur the argument. My point is that the military is not protecting us by fighting in this war. They are increasing the chances of an attack in Canada by creating more enemies. I'm not saying the military is bad or our soldiers are thugs. I'm saying that our soldiers are not protecting us right now. The news should not say that our soldiers are fighting for our country because they're not. How are they fighting for our freedom? That’s nonsense.
 

Minority Observer84

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Damn the last two people really hate the armed forces.

Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.

Wrong!!
I don't hate anyone the points i'am making a simple
supporting the troops is supporting the mission same mantra was used to silence oppositon to the iraq was in the us .
Afghanistan is a pointless war and i don't think anyone should be killed over it it's the US's mess let them clean it up no reason canadian blood has to be shed to back up the us .
The fighting in afighanistan does nothing to make me safer subduing the taliban and finding OBL are two completley differnt mission taking place in two completlet diffrent parts of the country .