bluealberta said:
And the Liberals promote what?
The reason Harper & Company lost the last election: the new deal for cities.
But it's too bad that Ontarians were pissed off at their provincial truly Liberal with a big fat red capital L party (it's too bad the Ontario Conservatives were stupid enough to run Eerie (Disaster Area) Eves, who lead by disaster running from one to the next and legislating them away; quite a disappointment after Mike Harris ... leaving the usual crap of a party winning by default because it sure as hell wasn't goingto be the NDP, which lost official party status again; they lost it in the Harris election after running up a minor
$60 billion budget deficit in ONE TERM; higher than the federal deficit, but they split the Liberal vote so Harris lowered the bar for them ... then they lost official party status again in the last election with a lower number of mandatory seats).
If it weren't for all of the protest votes in Ontario against anything "liberal" in the last federal election over the provincial Liberal disaster (same in Quebec; protest votes for the Bloc though), or had MacKay not lost his mind and joined the western rural christian fundamentlist reform-alliance, the "Reform" I mean "Alliance" I mean "Reform Alliance" would have received another sh*tkicking from Manitoba on east (Manitoba sent in 5 Liberals, 4 NDP, 4 reform-alliance, 1 PC in the 2000 election: 10 seats to 4 against the western reform-alliance) and Martin would have won a majority and wouldn't have to pander to with the dipsticks under Manning/Day/Harper's iron fist.
Harper said it was "unfair" for cities to get new deals and that everything should get money back from the gas tax if the cities are going to -- due to his rural support base.
It's a classic example of Harper, the west period, minus Metro Vancouver, having no clue (or care) how basic economics work. But why would the west have a clue about that, other than 19th century supply-side economics due to no markets to speak of, so no real industry to speak of?
The new deal for CITIES was demanded by the City of Toronto due to the Ontario feds having no money due to confederate tax plundering, along with the cuts Harris had to make due to the NDP fisalamity and SARS and the blackout of 2003 back to back (leading to a new economic term in Ontario: "pre-blackout levels" and it took over a year to recover -- not a cent in any disaster relief in tax returns to Ontario from the confederates), but Toronto City Hall has to pay for everything out of property taxes, including subsidizing the Ontario and confederate feds.
Just trying to pay for the maintenance costs of the largest public transit system in North America, behind only NYC, has led to cut after cut in routes, frequencies, fare hikes (double what Montreal pays for monthy passes; no other city has to pay for its public transit system out of property taxes alone), deaths, near-deaths due to no money for maintenance, for starters that's what the new deal for "cities" (Toronto) was about and using gouging the Ontario and confederate feds slap on fuel taxes is quite logical given that more public transit gets more passenger vehicles off the roads, which leads to less wear and tear on them and not as many people dying prematurely and having to be hospitalzed over respirtory problems due to air pollution due to traffic gridlock, which also leads to stress and none of it is good for productivity -- particularly dead people not showing up for work and the death business doesn't make up the lost productivity.
Aside from that, cities can generate revenues faster than anything else, you give them back more of their taxes and revenues go up faster and then you go ahead and plunder it all to fund the ridiculous amount of argiculture and forestry to make nothing out of, raw/semi-processed, for export due to no markets to speak of, mainly in the western Canadas.
With a minority government, Harper got his way and the new deal for cities turned into a lump of worthless crap, the "new deal for cities and COMMUNITIES" and ditches too, spreading the revenues around so thinly that it'll take decades for Toronto to even get its transit system back to where it was before Bob Rae was elected in 1990. Out of $11 billion plundered from the City of Toronto in taxes last fiscal year alone, it's getting a whopping $407.2 million back for public transit -- over FIVE YEARS.
And the Conference Board of Canada researched and documented the tax plundering from the City of Toronto in May and another $1.1 billion is gone this fiscal year. So Toronto city hall gets $81.4 million back out of the $11,000 million plundered last year, to stick onto maintenance of the TTC when the whole system has needed expanding for decades, not cuts and fare hikes, and $12.1 billion will be gone this fiscal year in taxes paid but never seen again (here ... they can be seen all over the place elsewhere).
The "conservatives" turned it into some "community road" crap, to every freaking town, village and hamlet in the country. Toronto has lots of roads too, most are 6 lanes and have 80+ year old water mains under them that bust constantly, 100 year-old sewers, treatment plants, and they're a lot bigger than in Ditchville, Nowhere under some two-lane goat path.
And PROPERTY TAXES are supposed to pay for roads, curbs, sidewalks, sewers, water supply, treatment plants, public schools, public libraries. They were never designed to pay for the installation and maintenance of new subway lines, "provincial" social services, "provincial" disability (Toronto City Hall not only gets to pay for its own but for 20% of all benefit payments in Ontario and 20% of all PROVINCIAL administration costs, but it's nothing compared to what gets dumped on this city), affordable housing to avoid the "ghettos full of immigrants" Harper claims make up the majority of voters east of Winnipeg (ever been to Vancouver?), and affordable housing is a federal responsibility, as are internatinal airports in Ontario, different provinces have different laws, but confederates don't pay shit on Toronto's airports -- it taxes the shit out of them. Toronto international is the second-most expensive airport in the world to land at or take off from.
It's almost like they're out to kill us -- and it's been working for quite a while.
HARPER wants it even WORSE. And don't tell me what I heard come out of his own yap in Toronto, along with hundreds of thousands of others -- no new deal for cities. Everything or nothing.
But not for that he probably would have won a minority government. All the exit polls in Toronto and the '905' area around it, over 45 seats or whatever, and lots, due to the red blood n the eyes at the Ontario Liberal feds, were expected to go to Harper. But by the time it was over and every news crew was at the wrong location for "victory speeches" it was uninaimous that he doesn't support Toronto, doesn't support anything in south Ontario, the Atlantic Canadas, Montreal or Vancouver and it's even worse now.
No new deal for cities, no Harper. And they were bitching about it on Thursday, the stupid rural hick "conservatives' up north on the farms, claiming that Toronto got HALF the money, $1.1 billion no less (so what? It's pocket change compared to the $11 billion ripped off and another $1.1 billion this alone anyway) over TWO YEARS, they said, leaving the rest of Ontario unable to pave roads. What the f*ck do you think property taxes are for you idiots? And Toronto has 5,100 km of roads to worry about as well, roughly the distance across the country and most of them are six lanes, not the little roads running through villages and hamlets.
They LIE constantly -- hoping that everyone is as stupid as you are and won't bother checking any facts. I did check the facts and and it's not any $1.1 billion going to Toronto over two years, which would mean shit anyway -- $550 million in for this fiscal year, another $550 million out in the $1.1 billion tax increase. And they kept blabbering about Toronto only having a fifth of the population of Ontario (and 20-25% of the GDP of the Canadas and paying out half the taxes the whole freaking province pays out -- but that's just the City of Toronto around taxes plundered) when these are the facts:
Where is the gas tax money going? ($ million)
Code:
Cities 5 Years Per year
Toronto .... 407.2 81.4
Hamilton ... 80.0 16.0
Mississauga 49.8 10.0
Brampton ... 26.4 5.3
Markham .... 16.9 3.4
Oshawa ..... 11.3 2.3
Vaughan .... 14.8 3.0
Burlington . 12.3 2.5
Oakville ... 11.8 2.4
Pickering .. 7.1 1.4
Regional governments ($ million)
Code:
Regions 5 Years Per year
Peel Region . 80.3 8.2
York Region . 59.2 6.1
Durham Region 41.2 16.0
Halton Region 30.5 11.8
TOTAL/Ont. $1,870,000,000 (5 years)
TOTAL above 848,800,000 (5 years)
TOTAL above 169,760,000 (per fiscal year)
TOTAL/Ont. 374,000,000 (per fiscal year)
Source:
Association of Municipalities of Ontario (AMO)
Do the math yourself. And right on the AMO's home page it states exactly what makes no sense at all around tax returns to fund public transit -- not including ridership as part of the formula. Toronto (the Greater Toronto Area/GTA, not the City of Toronto proper) has 20% of the population of Ontario but Toronto has 62% of Ontario's public transit riders.
TOTAL/Ont. $1,870,000,000 (5 years)
TOTAL above 848,800,000 (5 years)
Hamilton and St. Catherines were included above. They're not in the GTA. Does the number for more than Toronto look like HALF of the money for Ontario to you? Does $849 million over FIVE years, including Hamilton and St. Catherines, look like $1.1 billion over TWO years to you?
This was all documented and released when the dickwad "conservatives" started harping about it with their usual lies -- much like around you.
No matter what they say, so natter what any of you say, it has to be checked out -- because it's A LIE. And you're all too clueless to know any different.
You don't even know why Harper lost the last election. And we're fed up with all of them, including the Ontario feds, long, long fed up with the whole mess, before Alberta was even making money, and it doesn't make much to go blabbering to anyone in the City of Toronto or anywhere else in Ontario about.
He lost Stronach over Ontario's premier taking the $23 billion ripped off from Ontario last fiscal year -- by the "liberals" -- just in transfers (which run from the feds to the provinces and particularly the territories out of federal taxes, not the other way around -- nothing pays transfers to the federal government, they pay federal taxe -- but what the would an Albertan "conservative' know about anything? In every one of your posts, you are dead wrong about everything or are a bird brain parroting propaganda that you don't even undertant -- and I'm not a "liberal", I'm a capitalist -- and the "conservatives' are not, unless you think the pirce of chicken amounts to economics, cows, turf, grains and oilseeds, it's why Alberta and the rest of this mess outside the Windsor-Quebec City Corridor have no economies or markets to speak of).
A golden opportunity, Ontario's premier, its Department of Finance, finally documents the amount of money that's getting ripped off from Ontario, in transfer payments alone, not the over half of paying for a federal debt we don't one cent of, "Mounties" all over the ... countries, other than than in Ontario and Quebec, the transfers of others, while Alberta barely manages to cover its share of the federal debt in the puny taxes it pays out, socialists, after Newfoundland & Labrador was handed
$3,868 per capita for no apparent reason, along with its government getting to keep, never in question, 100% of federal offshore oil/gas royalties AND 100% of is equaliization welfare handouts, which south Ontario taxpayers pay for 100% of in this mess. And Alberta collected for its whole history until 1964.
Ontario's finance minister was just looking at the surplus and with $23 billion ripped off from Ontario, nothing new, just published for a change to try to get to get some of our own taxes back, divided the surplus by what Ontario paid into it and it came out out to a puny $4.6 billion --
$371 per capita and out of our own taxes that the confederates have no business holding onto.
What the hell is any province supposed to do with $371 per capita? It wouldn't even have paid the deficit off from SARS and the blackout. You get "natural disaster relief" over cows. All the western provinces did. Ontario has the 2nd largest cattle industry in the Canadas and ALL Canadian cattle, and beef initially, and it didn't get a cent for cattle ranchers or anything else.
NL just got
$3,868 per capita for nothing along with another EIGHT YEARS of guaranteed equaliation welfare handouts regardless of oil/gas royalties paid to the NL government, 0% of the income will be applied for another 8 years. It's like winning the multi-billion dollar lottery and still demanding welfare checks. It's all "equalization" is -- welfare, but to provinces and territories (with the exception of Ontario, always; the one and only jurisdiction that has never collected them and of COURSE NOT. "The Feds" don't have geese laying golden eggs under magical money trees as most Canadians seem to think. Someone has to pay for all of this socialist crap and it certainly isn't Alberta; try to concentrate on paying for your own provincial law enforcement from top to bottom, bottom to top, NO RCMP anywhere other than the ones you don't see and don't want to see, the FBI end, truly federal not a provincial subsidy).
Ontario's premier was asking for a paltry
$361 per capita and Harper blabbers on about tax returns all the time and had been bitching for them around the surplus.
The LIBERALS told Ontario's premer to get bent over $361 per capita and wouldn't even agree to meet with him.
Harper should have jumped in and screamed bloody murder -- if he thinks he's ever going to win another vote in this province. But he has MP's here, 24 of them, 23 now, more than any other province but Alberta voted in -- but by accident over a protest vote and having not clue who/what a Stephen Harper was. Now they know.
Belinda Stronach agreed to take it up with "her party" and it was only a few days later, "
Conservatives to the Rescue?" in the Toronto Star, Belinda who? Martin was a dead man, they all were, Stronach said, "The Liberals are taking Ontario voters for granted..." and no kidding to refuse to even speak with our premier after the ridiculous deal NL got, out of our own tax money, $2,000 per capita more than the Ontario government has to spend on Ontarians per capita -- and on equaliation welfare handouts that are paid for entirely by Ontario taxpayers. NO government gets more of our own revenues than we do per capita, while on equalization welfare handouts.
And look at how Harper f*cked that one up. He didn't have to do anything but make some vague promise. We couldn't have done any worse than $1.87 billion back over FIVE YEARS. It's barely going to cover the $1.1 billion the City of Toronto's taxes are going up by THIS fiscal year. Newfoundland & Labrador got $2 billion,
$3,868 per capita, which is all that matters, and comes out to $47,934,963,600 in Ontario terms. It's still exactly
$3,868 per capita, just $48 billion. We could actually do something with $48 billion -- but nowhere near what NL is going to get to do with it, because we're paying for NL's $861 million in equalization transfers for fiscal 2005-06, $1 billion and $531 million in total transfers ($2,966 per capita:
http://www.fin.gc.ca/FEDPROV/mtpe.html#Newfoundland .. feel free to check it out):
MAJOR "Federal" Transfers
2004-05 and 2005-06 estimates sorted from the highest, per person, to the lowest for 2005-06
Per capita/person and percentage of total government revenues
Code:
2004-05 2005-06
NUNAVAT TERRITORY ..... $25,975 / 88% $28,061 / 91% UP 3%
NORTHWEST TERRITORIES . $16,633 / 78% $17,951 / 80% UP 2%
YUKON TERRITORY ....... $15,727 / 76% $16,818 / 78% UP 2%
PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND .. $ 2,930 / 39% $3,291 / 42% UP 3%
NEW BRUNSWICK ......... $ 2,739 / 36% $3,111 / 39% UP 3%
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR $ 2,449 / 32% $2,966 / 34% UP 2%*
NOVA SCOTIA ........... $ 2,455 / 39% $2,793 / 42% UP 3%
MANITOBA .............. $ 2,428 / 38% $2,717 / 40% UP 2%
QUEBEC ................ $ 1,757 / 25% $2,052 / 26% UP 1%
BRITISH COLUMBIA ...... $ 1,383 / 18% $1,570 / 19% UP 1%
ONTARIO ............... $ 1,322 / 21% $1,487 / 21% UP 0%
SASKATCHEWAN .......... $ 1,332 / 20% $1,487 / 28% UP 8%**
ALBERTA ............... $ 1,321 / 16% $1,486 / 16% UP 0%
* NL Up one position over NS from 2004-05
**SK up the highest of
every jurisdiction in percentage of provincial revenues
Source:
http://www.fin.gc.ca/FEDPROV/mtpe.html#Newfoundland (scroll down for all jurisdictions)
It'll wrap and the (code)...(/code) tags don't switch to a fixed-widh font on this software (bug) or it'd line up. Copy/paste into a text editor, Notepad, a word processor using a fixed-width font like Courier and tell me all about Quebec being the biggest leech around in the Canadas along with what it pays out in taxes per capita and how much in total. It pays the highest per capita taxes in the Canadas, just a tad ahead of Ontario
and Quebec has a real capita:
Saskatchewan (995,400) + Manitoba (1,170,300) + New Brunswick (751,400) + Nova Scotia (937,000) + Prince Edward Island (138,900) + Newfoundland and Labrador (517,000) + Yukon Territory (31,200) Northwest Territories (42,800) + Nunavat (8,700) = 2,930,200
people SHORT of Quebec still.
Every province and territory combined, other than Ontario, Alberta and B.C. and Quebec still has 3 million people leftover. Alberta is only at 3,201,900. Highest taxes per capita, with a real capita. Know what I mean now? It wipes out the rest of the country other than Ontario and almost takes Alberta in with it too in total population.
You'd be having one hell of a shit sorry time in Alberta if you had the population of Quebec.
It's easier when it's in a spreadsheet and every bit of information you want is at your fingertips because you keep it so that you can KNOW THINGS as opposed to taking wild stabs in the dark.
POPULATION (July 1, 2004 pp in thousands), totals and by selected age groups
Code:
TOTAL 0-14 15-64 65+
CANADA ................ 31,946.4 5,728.2 22,077.1 4,141.0
ONTARIO ............... 12,392.7 2,286.8 8,525.4 1,580.5
QUEBEC ................ 7,542.8 1,273.6 5,247.1 1,022.1
BRITISH COLUMBIA ...... 4,196.4 699.4 2,922.6 574.4
ALBERTA ............... 3,201.9 621.8 2,247.2 332.9
MANITOBA .............. 1,170.3 233.6 778.3 158.4
SASKATCHEWAN .......... 995.4 198.7 649.3 147.5
NOVA SCOTIA ........... 937.0 155.6 649.5 131.8
NEW BRUNSWICK ......... 751.4 124.2 524.0 103.3
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR 517.0 82.5 368.0 66.5
PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND .. 137.9 25.0 93.7 19.2
NORTHWEST TERRITORIES . 42.8 10.7 30.3 1.8
YUKON TERRITORY ....... 31.2 6.1 23.1 2.0
NUNAVAT TERRITORY ..... 29.6 10.3 18.6 0.7
pp = Preliminary postcensal estimates based on
pr = Updated postcensal estimates base on
2001 census counts adjusted for net undercoverage
Western Canada total ....... 9,564.0 (
29.94%)
Ontario/Quebec total ....... 19,935.5 (
62.40%)
Atlantic Canada total ...... 2,343.3 ( 7.33%)
Source:
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo31a.htm
Learn something.
The Harperites are wasting thousands of dollars an hour debating C-48 over NOTHING. They agree with it and would ALSO add tax cuts, so they say now (two Fridays ago) that the whole thing has backfired in their stupid faces, because they know the majority of Canadians not only want it passed but are SICK OF LISTENING TO THEM WHINING ABOUT NOTHING.
If they wanted to change anything in it, they had plenty of time to do it at the committee between the last vote and this one, which should take place today but the morons are filibustering with worthlessness, wasting tons of our money, will be at it until midnight every day and night this week, burying themselves deeper and deeper if they do. It's already 8pm and they're still at it, debating nothing.
Anything they had to say about it, any changes they wanted made, could and should have been done at the committee but the "conservatives" blocked everything at the committee and a blank piece of paper was returned -- stating that they support NOTHING in it, while they now try to claim over and over again that they support it but "not in this way" -- WHICH IS WHAT COMMITTEES ARE FOR. They had all the time they wanted to change any/all of it, and did -- returning a blank piece of paper.
Jack Layton is from Toronto City Hall. That was his last job. He knows what's going on in this city and got it (and everything else), money for affordable housing so that those GHETTOS full of FOREIGNERS that Harper bitched about east of Winnipeg, could have something other than GHETTOS to live in.
College and university tuitions are bankrupting our human capital and forcing them out of post-secondary educations, laden with massive debts, due to all of the cuts to education funding, the lowest in the "federation", making tuitions the highest.
FAIR DEAL FOR ONTARIO? It's not even a fair deal for Toronto and these stupid moronic "conservatives" are OPPOSING it while claiming that they support it becaue they're pissing us off with their petty bullshit.
Even with the puny $4.6 billion, if all of it went to Ontario THIS fiscal year, it's all split up over two fiscal years and for every province, per capita, which is bullshit because education funding is not the same due to TAX PLUNDERING from Ontario. $4.6 billion, it's not even the $11 billion the City of Toronto alone paid out last fiscal year or the $12.1 billion it's paying out this fiscal year.
Foriegn aid -- look after this country first and particuarly the geese the lays the golden eggs, and it ain't Alberta with a handful of people and RCMP "federal-provincial" general purpose/traffic cops all over the province other than in Calgary and Edmonton. On down to the academies and everyone/everything in them, all building maintenance, cleaning, equipment, equipment issued, uniforms, ceremonies, all federal on up to administration (in Alberta, per province because YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED PAYING FOR YOUR OWN, and all pensions. Federal. Leeches, socialist little losers.
Quebec has the population of the entire country to keep the peace over, all law enforcement period, courts, every police station, detention centers, prisons, then federal pens, but with the population of all of the Canadas other than Ontario and B.C.; a few people short of including Alberta into their law enforcement burden and you have the nerve to bitch about Quebec -- Harperites? Anyone?
I'm just getting warmed up. What's wrong with the the Alberta, rural, backwards, stupid, oblivious, brain-dead, moronic "western" rural, christian fundamentalist, discriminatory (goes without saying after christian fundamentalist extremists) Dubya ass-licking, Dubya could turn Harper into his little bitch, like Clinton and Lewinsky, do interesting things with cigars to Harper and such and have you finished reading these yet? And check the dates on them. Anyone who is CLUELESS enough now to still believe that there was any reason at all to invade and occupy Iraq is stuck in the position of "we've got so many dead people it can't POSSIBLY have been for nothing..."
Sorry, but it was. The goal was never to "bring democracy to the Middle East." It was never stated, the U.S. thought it'd be a cakewalk and that the Iraqi people would welcome them as their liberators with open arms -- to boost morale over the failure to find bin Laden after Dubya opened his STUPID YAP (it's all any of these idiots have to do and Bush's popularity rating is below 40% ... the Americans are getting quite sick of this war in Iraq and I could have told them that from the begining. There is no way out but the Vietnam way. The "insurgents" have already won and had by this time last year and the year before. And again next year and the next and the next and the American people and Congress are not going to put up with it forever -- but have NO CHOICE now. Just like it happened in Vietname -- too many dead already, too many dead by this time last year. There is no backing out and no moving forward.
NO REASON TO INVADE IRAQ -- ALL CLAIMS MADE WERE/ARE BASELESS
United States Senate Select Committee on INTELLIGENCE
http://intelligence.senate.gov/
Links on the site: Committee Members, Jurisdiction, Legislation, Hearings, Press Releases, Publications, Statutes/Laws Executive Orders, Other Links and two PDF's to download and read, from the site above or below. Just right-click on the links and use Save Target As... or whatever wording your browser uses:
Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq
PDF http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf
Conclusions (Excerpted From Full Report)
PDF http://intelligence.senate.gov/conclusions.pdf
AND WHAT IT'S ALL ACCOMPLISHED
US admits the war for 'hearts and minds' in Iraq is now lost
Pentagon report reveals catalogue of failure
By Neil Mackay, Investigations Editor
12/05/04 [Calgary] Sunday Herald --
THE Pentagon (not CNN which did a much better job detailing this 111 page report, or anything/anyone else --
JUST THE PENTAGON) has admitted that the war on terror and the invasion and occupation of Iraq have
increased support for al-Qaeda, made ordinary Muslims hate the US and caused a global backlash against America because of the "self-serving hypocrisy" of George W Bush's administration over the Middle East.
... full article:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7415.htm
Report of the Defense Science Board Task Force
Department of Defense, United States of America
September 2004
Office of the Under Secretary of Defense
For Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics
Washington, D.C. 20301-3140
PDF http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/dod/dsb/commun.pdf
The above is what did the research, and it is very extensive based on reports from 2001 and before 9/11, you get links to those and/or lists and lists of names/government positions and departmens from commitees. The above is just a summary from the last report and what's happened since. There are links to all of them but they're not IN the above report and it's still 111 pages long.
I
dare any of you Iraq war 'boosters'/fools to read everything above and try to debate it other than as i did -- there is no way out now and hasn't been from the beginning. The Iraqi weren't fighting for their own country in the Kuwait War (first "Gulf War") and gave up easily. Now they've got every terrorist in the world going after them in Iraq -- which makes it much worse than Vietnam because the second the Americans pull out they'll move to the U.S. to attack them there.
These people have had wars that have lasted THREE THOUSAND YEARS. They do not give up. Ever.
And Quebec has its own law enforcement and NL is getting a major break because it's got the highest net debt per capita in the Canadas. Quebec has the second-highest, and a real economy and real markets. Paying into its economy pays its debt down and frees up the revenues. Its an investment, ONLY south Ontario can pay into Quebec's economy, it is mathemtically impossible for anything else to do anything but dream about having one extra penny to pay their OWN BILLS other than periodically, Alberta. Juat paying taxes and not getting every cent back means nothing. Alberta's share of the federal debt is $87,219,756,000. Keep on paying those taxes you've got a long way to go. And stop running to "the feds" (south Ontario taxpayers) every time you get a runny nose to demand handouts -- then complain about high taxes that you create. Get your own law enforcement, stop being leeches.
And you don't need to respond. You need to read another 50,000 pages and do a few years of research before you'll even be qualified to comment on what "Canada" is. Then Alberta and how and where it doesn't fit it as the "superpower" or whatever it thinks it is. LIBYA does better than Alberta does, in what's otherwise a desert country with no agriculture and only crude/natural gas revenues.
And this is hilarious:
bluealberta said:
The CPC policies will treat taxpayers fairly and equally, will not gut social programs, because there is no need, and will ensure that the social programs are run fiscally responsible. They will also enhance the reputation and ability of our military which will improve our standing on the world stage. Or at least get us back to the stage, we have been off for so long now, we can't even see the friggin stage.
Oh no. You're on the wrong stage, fool. But thanks for that lecture only for this...
bluealberta said:
You have no proof of what the CPC policies will do because they have not been in power.
Exactly.
And either do you. And we do know what he's against and the page pointed out to you comes right out of his own YAP so we know all of that too. And it's ALL WE DO KNOW. The rest is a mystery because he's never run ANYTHING let alone a country. He should try for Mayor of Calgary first or something.
Have a nice evening.'
