Stephen Harper: The Al Gore of Canadian Politics?

Reverend Blair

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Nobody is keeping you from becoming rich, Jay.

$30,000 means much less to a millionaire than $900 means to an average working person as well. What you are proposing...the basic policy you support...is yachts for the already rich while working people get almost enough for a dozen beer a week.

I'd rather see working people get twice as much (a 2-4 a week) while the millionaires continue to pay what they are right now.
 

Colin

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Going back to one of the previous replies about Steven Harper and the Conservatives not upholding Canadian morals. That is a load of rubish, yes the conservatives are going to be conservative, its what they do, but they are still Canadian and to uphold one party as GOD (Liberals) while they swindle and have a scandal every term, and the other as Satan for somethings said during campagning is rediculous. We all know, or should know how well Liberals have lived up to their promises, I'm not saying one party is inherently better, but I look at all the liberal arguments and they are baised around demonizing the conservative (and visa-versa) and I think its insane.

I stand on the idea that the liberals have been in power now for too long, as power corrupts the party is corrupted almost through and through. Its time for a change, and I'm not calling for a perminant change, but a change so that parties in power realise that they cannot get away with such debachury without reprecussions. Unfortunatly the general public is all to quick to forget and return to dehumanizing the opposion (how many times have I heard, "I don't like Harper He looks like a wolf" when I was in Ontario). If we won't stand up and do something then we deserve to have our money wasted by ineffective management and scandels.
 

Reverend Blair

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The Conservatives offer no less chance of corruption and mismanagement though, Colin. They do offer social policy that is at odds with what most of Canada wants though.

There are many alternatives to the Liberals and Conservatives. You guys should giv them a shot.
 

gordo

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Reverend Blair said:
The Conservatives offer no less chance of corruption and mismanagement though, Colin. They do offer social policy that is at odds with what most of Canada wants though.

There are many alternatives to the Liberals and Conservatives. You guys should giv them a shot.

Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?
 

bluealberta

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gordo said:
Reverend Blair said:
The Conservatives offer no less chance of corruption and mismanagement though, Colin. They do offer social policy that is at odds with what most of Canada wants though.

There are many alternatives to the Liberals and Conservatives. You guys should giv them a shot.

Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?

To make it clear, when the comment "most of Canada wants" or "Canadians want" what is really meant is the socialists in central Canada want, not average people.

The point about accepting transfer payments as a province and then providing tax cuts is an interesting one. I guess when you are getting the money, you really have no scruples as to how you use it. Maybe if the taxpayers of the province receiving the transfer payments actually knew the full cost, then they would not be so enamored of their left wing parties. Must be easy to keep getting transfer payments simply by reducing revenues by tax cuts. I sense that more and more "normal and average" Ontario taxpayers are starting to feel the same way about transfer payments as do a lot of Albertans. If this is true, and I for one hope it is, maybe there is hope for this country after all.
 

bluealberta

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gordo said:
Reverend Blair said:
The Conservatives offer no less chance of corruption and mismanagement though, Colin. They do offer social policy that is at odds with what most of Canada wants though.

There are many alternatives to the Liberals and Conservatives. You guys should giv them a shot.

Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?
 

Reverend Blair

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Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?

I didn't specify a party, but I did post the websites of several here.

To make it clear, when the comment "most of Canada wants" or "Canadians want" what is really meant is the socialists in central Canada want, not average people.

What is meant is the policies that Canadians say they agree with in polls. That includes human rights, foreign aid, access to abortion, social programs, etc...all things that the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives stand against.
 

gordo

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Reverend Blair said:
Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?

I didn't specify a party, but I did post the websites of several here.

To make it clear, when the comment "most of Canada wants" or "Canadians want" what is really meant is the socialists in central Canada want, not average people.

What is meant is the policies that Canadians say they agree with in polls. That includes human rights, foreign aid, access to abortion, social programs, etc...all things that the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives stand against.

human rights, C'mon dude thats total BS and you know it.
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
Hrmm where are you going Mr NDP, Maybe the people of Alberta can vote Bloc?

I didn't specify a party, but I did post the websites of several here.

To make it clear, when the comment "most of Canada wants" or "Canadians want" what is really meant is the socialists in central Canada want, not average people.

What is meant is the policies that Canadians say they agree with in polls. That includes human rights, foreign aid, access to abortion, social programs, etc...all things that the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives stand against.[/quote]

Absolutely and totally a lie. There is no policy anywhere that espouses these things. To say otherwise is fearmongering and should not be tolerated by the citizenry of this country. Shame.
 

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
I sense that more and more "normal and average" Ontario taxpayers are starting to feel the same way about transfer payments as do a lot of Albertans. If this is true, and I for one hope it is, maybe there is hope for this country after all.

That could be true, if the majority of Canada were to be subject to mandatory labotomies in an effort to force change their voting habits...

For my part though, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy... :p
 

gordo

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Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
I sense that more and more "normal and average" Ontario taxpayers are starting to feel the same way about transfer payments as do a lot of Albertans. If this is true, and I for one hope it is, maybe there is hope for this country after all.

That could be true, if the majority of Canada were to be subject to mandatory labotomies in an effort to force change their voting habits...

For my part though, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy... :p

Nope all they are going to need is Karl Rove, He's going to run the CPC's election the PM won't have any rock to hide under. It should be a slaughter for Rove to sick Martin into some pond never to be heard from again.

All Canadians need is a little AD wakeup call come election time and the Liberals will be gone.
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
peapod said:
human rights, C'mon dude thats total BS and you know it.

Thats not an answer to the rev's post, provide data and links...

Yeah, well blue and gordo are apparently not Google-savvy enough to provide evidence to substantiate their claims...

Poor, poor blue and gordo... :cry:

Don't cry yet, go to the CPC website, there are no policies there that even come close to your fearmongering claims. Then you can cry, cause you will be wrong...........again. :wink: 8)
 

Reverend Blair

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They are opposing bill c-38 right now. That is a human rights bill. They are opposing bill c-48. That is a bill for funding social programs.

I can go on, but we all know about the backdoor method that the Conservatives have left open to ban abortions and we've all seen them oppose pro-UN, pro-foreign aid initiatives in favour of George Bush's xenophobic policies.
 

peapod

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Well gordo is looking like a troll to me...so smarten up gordo..if all your hexre to do is troll your not staying.. :twisted:

Now bluealberta as settled down, so lets put our wankers back in our pants and try and discuss nicely. thanks...ta ta
 

gordo

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Reverend Blair said:
They are opposing bill c-38 right now. That is a human rights bill. They are opposing bill c-48. That is a bill for funding social programs.

I can go on, but we all know about the backdoor method that the Conservatives have left open to ban abortions and we've all seen them oppose pro-UN, pro-foreign aid initiatives in favour of George Bush's xenophobic policies.

c-38 HA you must be kidding

Put it to a vote. Public vote then we will see.

I don't need some dumb ass towing the party line cause he's/she's afraid of loosing his/her job for voting against the King Martin.
 

gordo

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peapod said:
Well gordo is looking like a troll to me...so smarten up gordo..if all your hexre to do is troll your not staying.. :twisted:

Now bluealberta as settled down, so lets put our wankers back in our pants and try and discuss nicely. thanks...ta ta

What are you talking about?

I'm replying to posts. Just like everybody else.

If i'm a troll, so is Reverend Blair,bluealberta,Vanni Fucci

I think its called discussion but you may have another take on it.