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[DurkaDurka]

Those are good points with regards to gay marriage and the death penalty. Abortion simply isn't going anywhere regardless of what the pro-choice like to make people believe. It is in the Constitution and that is pretty much that. I am sure Canadians have a pro-life movement as well.

I saw some of the threads on the Death Penalty and it seems like there are quite a few who want it up there. They may be in the minority but not by much.

But my state here, Massachusetts, is about as left and liberal as you can get. Sure we sent a Republican to the Senate and that was more because of his opponent's arrogance and sense of entitlement that showed throughout the campaign. She was already picking out her curtains down in D.C. He'll have to fight for that seat each time he is up for re-election. He is not a sure thing to win as Kennedy was. Most of our state reps are Democrats and liberal.

Canada has a sizable number of people who share similar opinions on the Death Penalty, Gay Marriage, Abortion etc... it's not really a political issue anymore though. If a political party runs a platform on any of those 3, it pretty much ensures their defeat.

John Tory, a conservative politician from Ontario pretty much sunk his campaign a few years back because he made funding of religious based schools one of his platforms. That didn't sit too well with the population and he was subsequently spanked by his liberal opponent.

 

[EagleSmack]

Canada has a sizable number of people who share similar opinions on the Death Penalty, Gay Marriage, Abortion etc... it's not really a political issue anymore though. If a political party runs a platform on any of those 3, it pretty much ensures their defeat.

I agree they aren't. Here in Massachusetts when Martha Coakley realized she was down in the polls she ramped up the most negative campaign the state ever saw.

"Scott Brown wants to refuse care for rape victims"

"Scott Brown was lock step with Bush and Cheney."

It was hilarious and it backfired. He wasn't even in a position to vote on any Bush measures because he represented his town in the Massachusetts State Legislature.

John Tory, a conservative politician from Ontario pretty much sunk his campaign a few years back because he made funding of religious based schools one of his platforms. That didn't sit too well with the population and he was subsequently spanked by his liberal opponent.

They same goes here. If you appear to far right you are going to get trounced on election day.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I agree they aren't. Here in Massachusetts when Martha Coakley realized she was down in the polls she ramped up the most negative campaign the state ever saw.

"Scott Brown wants to refuse care for rape victims"

"Scott Brown was lock step with Bush and Cheney."

It was hilarious and it backfired. He wasn't even in a position to vote on any Bush measures because he represented his town in the Massachusetts State Legislature.



They same goes here. If you appear to far right you are going to get trounced on election day.

Scott Brown seems to be a pretty decent person, not the Tea Party extremist the media tried to make him out as. Seems more of a moderate-fiscal conservative then anything?

The thing with Tory, is that he could have possibly won the election if it wasn't for the religious schooling gaffe, which kind of disrupts the traditional public funding of secular + catholic schools to include every other religion under the sun.

 

[EagleSmack]

Scott Brown seems to be a pretty decent person, not the Tea Party extremist the media tried to make him out as. Seems more of a moderate-fiscal conservative then anything?

Durka, the Tea Party aren't extremist. That is how they are being painted by the Democrats who hate people speaking out in public and as a group.

The thing with Tory, is that he could have possibly won the election if it wasn't for the religious schooling gaffe, which kind of disrupts the traditional public funding of secular + catholic schools to include every other religion under the sun.

I've always been against public funding for any private schools, religious or private. That would be a sore spot here as well. Advocates for that type of funding simply say...

"Why should I pay taxes for a school when I send my kids to private school. I want a voucher."

I disagree with that too.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Durka, the Tea Party aren't extremist. That is how they are being painted by the Democrats who hate people speaking out in public and as a group.



I've always been against public funding for any private schools, religious or private. That would be a sore spot here as well. Advocates for that type of funding simply say...

"Why should I pay taxes for a school when I send my kids to private school. I want a voucher."

I disagree with that too.

Sorry, I should have phrased that differently. I didn't mean to imply that all Tea Party groups are extremist, rather the media tried to paint him as belong to rather extremist fringe elements of it.

In a perfect world, government would fund public schools, that's it. If you want your child to have religious instruction, pay for it or leave it to your church etc.

 

[EagleSmack]

Sorry, I should have phrased that differently. I didn't mean to imply that all Tea Party groups are extremist, rather the media tried to paint him as belong to rather extremist fringe elements of it.

In a perfect world, government would fund public schools, that's it. If you want your child to have religious instruction, pay for it or leave it to your church etc.

To survive in this state Scott Brown had to be anything but an extremist. His opponent on the other hand showed the side of what pretty much everyone here loathes. Arrogance and entitlement.

That is how it works here and I would imagine the same is in Canada. Private Schools do not get public funding.

 

[Icarus27k]

"Scott Brown was lock step with Bush and Cheney."

It was hilarious and it backfired.

Well, in Coakley's defense, wherever Sen. Brown goes, the bodies of the homeless are found drained of their blood. I'm not accusing anybody of anything. I'm just saying.

 

[gopher]

""Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world."



Proof, please.

Still waiting for your proof.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

We need a change on the court to level it from the far right extremism that it has had for all these years. Hopefully, President Obama will get another couple of appointments for it.

This appointment will not change the balance of the court, Obama will be replacing one liberal with another. If one of the conservative justices were to retire, Thomas, or Scalia, that sill change the balance in the court.

But really, the US Supreme Court has become a travesty of its former self. Justices are supposed to interpret the constitution to the best of their ability, regardless of who the outcomes helps and who it hurts. That is the proper job of a Supreme Court justice.

But in USA these days, justices are politicians first, jurists second. Most of the time they blindly vote the party line, Republican or Democratic. Currently the Republicans have a majority, 5 to 4.

Nowhere was this more evident than in the 2000 election, where the Supreme Court awarded the presidency to Bush on strict party line, political vote, the 5 Republicans voting for Bush, the 4 Democrats voting for Gore.

Supreme Court should really be the last, dispassionate, nonpartisan resort to interpret the constitution, and should not be turned into a political footblal, as it is these days.

 

[ironsides]

The Supreme court should have never gotten involved in the 2000 election at all. There were no Constitutional issues to interpret.

Electorial College settled it. In other words, good old Thomas Jefferson reached out again.

Presidential Election of 2000, Electoral and Popular Vote Summary — Infoplease.com

 

[SirJosephPorter]

The Supreme court should have never gotten involved in the 2000 election at all. There were no Constitutional issues to interpret.

Electorial College settled it. In other words, good old Thomas Jefferson reached out again.

Presidential Election of 2000, Electoral and Popular Vote Summary — Infoplease.com

The dispute was in Florida. Governor, the legislature and courts there were sorting it out. There really was no reason for US Supreme Court to get involved.

 

[gopher]

"This appointment will not change the balance of the court, Obama will be replacing one liberal with another. If one of the conservative justices were to retire, Thomas, or Scalia, that sill change the balance in the court."

True. A new judge will insure that the court will not be exclusively comprised of far right pundits for a long time. Hopefully, President Obama will have the opportunity to appoint another judge or two. That's what America needs to change the court and the direction of the Constitution's interpretation.

 

[Kreskin]

Obama used a little known constitutional rule allowing him to remove all sitting justices. He has appointed the following:

Al Gore

Cindy Sheehan

Michael Moore

James Carville

Jimmy Carter

Bill Clinton

Nancy Pelosi

Jesse Jackson

and the new Chief Justice - Harry Reid

 

[gopher]

^ Dream come true!

 

[ironsides]

Barney Frank has enemies, even 30,000 feet in the air.
Flying back to Boston from LA yesterday, the congressman was assailed by a pair of ophthalmologists upset about the health care reform bill. An argument ensued that prompted some passengers to wonder if the plane might be forced to land.
"No one was calming things down and people were standing up shouting," said Brooke Sexton, who was seated seven rows behind Barney.
Accustomed as he is to being conservatives's favorite bad guy, Frank mostly ignored the doctors's taunts, Sexton said, but the congressman's partner, Jim Ready, did not.
The problem started soon after the ophthalmologists - two sisters on their way to a conference in Boston - boarded the Virgin flight. When they discovered that Frank was sitting nearby, the women loudly dissed the landmark health care bill as an "Obamanation." (Frank was returning from LA, where he'd received an award from the Greenlining Institute, an economic development group for minorities, and appeared on Jay Leno's show.)
http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blog/2010/04/barney_frank_gets_a_high-altit.html