Spunky little woman!

Twila

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Another article about the incident with the focus on the Search and Rescue.

Pete McMartin: How much is a saved life worth?

Should Abrahamsen be billed for the cost of her search and rescue?

Sills, for one, thought not — some would argue it was just the cost of doing business in a place like Whistler, he said. The resort generates millions of dollars in revenue for businesses and plenty of tax dollars for the government — he felt charging for search and rescue could make skiers less inclined to come here if they or their families could be on the hook for the cost of a search. Plenty of people ski out of bounds, he said, and in a place like Canada, recreating in the great outdoors always comes with inherent risks.

Sills was also willing to cut Abrahamsen some slack for the fact she wasn’t a resident. Yes, she was an experienced snowboarder and alpine skier, but in Europe, you’re never far from a road or a farmer’s field. It’s harder to get lost there. That may explain why she tried to walk out.

Sills, however, had less sympathy for British Columbians who get lost in his backyard — 80 per cent of whom, he said, are from Metro Vancouver. They should know better.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I think we shouldn't have search and rescue, or a fire department, or a highway patrol. You knew the risks when you went hiking, built or bought a wooden house, or went out driving. Why should I pay for your bad choices?
 

JLM

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I think we shouldn't have search and rescue, or a fire department, or a highway patrol. You knew the risks when you went hiking, built or bought a wooden house, or went out driving. Why should I pay for your bad choices?

Maybe because I'd be willing to pay for your bad choices. No one is immune from stupidity at times.
 

Twila

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I think we shouldn't have search and rescue, or a fire department, or a highway patrol. You knew the risks when you went hiking, built or bought a wooden house, or went out driving. Why should I pay for your bad choices?

Maybe because I'd be willing to pay for your bad choices. No one is immune from stupidity at times.

And there you have it.
 

Twila

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Maybe we should all pay...............add $1 to the price of every lift ticket.

There was a comment I read under the article that suggested a dollar or so from every ticket sold at Whistler/Blackcomb go directly to Search and Rescue. Might be a good thing.

As difficult as it is to believe Norwegians are actually worse than Swedes.

YEAH we are! Whoot!
 

Twila

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No thank you. I am not going to do anything stupid so why should I pay an extra $1?

And by your logic, why are we restricting this to just skiiers?

I think an extra $1 a ticket sounds better then raising taxes to fund Search and Rescue.
 

Angstrom

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I think an extra $1 a ticket sounds better then raising taxes to fund Search and Rescue.

I think letting dumb people die is better for the human race in general.

No chance of them reproducing .

Let nature do its work.
 

Twila

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I think letting dumb people die is better for the human race in general.

No chance of them reproducing .

Let nature do its work.

true, but their families get upset and sue. We don't follow the rule of only the smartest and strongest survive. We follow whom ever has the money.
 

Sal

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I find it disturbing that she plans to go out of bounds again but people hike all over the place and that is their choice.

I believe she did this one on a whim and that can be forgiven. Next time there had better be some planning that could avoid a rescue party.
 

JLM

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I find it disturbing that she plans to go out of bounds again but people hike all over the place and that is their choice.

I believe she did this one on a whim and that can be forgiven. Next time there had better be some planning that could avoid a rescue party.

I doubt if she would really be that stupid. She's probably still in shock and it's likely her mouth is running over time.
 

gerryh

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I think letting dumb people die is better for the human race in general.

No chance of them reproducing .

Let nature do its work.




Doesn't work, you're here and from what you have said, you've reproduced.
 

captain morgan

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Another article about the incident with the focus on the Search and Rescue.

Pete McMartin: How much is a saved life worth?

Should Abrahamsen be billed for the cost of her search and rescue?

Whistler/Blackcomb, as a business, has various insurance policies that protect their patrons for a variety of accidents, etc.

Again, the individual that is the subject of the above article got into trouble outside the property/grounds of the resort.... For the most part, it doesn't matter if she went out purposefully or by accident. The resort is not responsible for the actions of those that break these rules.

On that note, I'll ask a related question (as per the title of the above article): What is the value of that person's life to themselves and/or family?

If these folks can't justify the expenditure, why would society feel any value?
 

SLM

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Whistler/Blackcomb, as a business, has various insurance policies that protect their patrons for a variety of accidents, etc.

Again, the individual that is the subject of the above article got into trouble outside the property/grounds of the resort.... For the most part, it doesn't matter if she went out purposefully or by accident. The resort is not responsible for the actions of those that break these rules.

On that note, I'll ask a related question (as per the title of the above article): What is the value of that person's life to themselves and/or family?

If these folks can't justify the expenditure, why would society feel any value?

I think we can't blankly state we won't conduct a search without up front cash. Anyone can get into trouble, and when it comes right down to it, no amount of money is worth a human life. Having said that though, I think when you venture far enough into some wilderness areas, 'at your own risk' should mean just that.