Sovereign Citizenship: The Source of the Convoy Delusion

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Something to keep in mind here. This is the quintessential philosophy fueling these delusional movements.




Sovereign citizen movement

The sovereign citizen movement (also SovCit movement or SovCits[1]) is a loose grouping of primarily American litigants, activists, commentators, tax protesters, financial scheme promoters and conspiracy theorists, who claim to be answerable only to their particular interpretations of the common law and to not be subject to any government statutes or proceedings, unless they consent to them.[2][3] In the United States, they do not recognize U.S. currency and maintain that they are "free of any legal constraints".[4][5][6] They especially reject most forms of taxation as illegitimate.[7]

In surveys conducted in 2014 and 2015, representatives of U.S. law enforcement ranked the risk of terrorism from the sovereign citizen movement higher than the risk from any other group, including Islamic extremists, militias, racists, and neo-Nazis.[22][23]

 

Ron in Regina

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Something to keep in mind here. This is the quintessential philosophy fueling these delusional movements.




Sovereign citizen movement

The sovereign citizen movement (also SovCit movement or SovCits[1]) is a loose grouping of primarily American litigants, activists, commentators, tax protesters, financial scheme promoters and conspiracy theorists, who claim to be answerable only to their particular interpretations of the common law and to not be subject to any government statutes or proceedings, unless they consent to them.[2][3] In the United States, they do not recognize U.S. currency and maintain that they are "free of any legal constraints".[4][5][6] They especially reject most forms of taxation as illegitimate.[7]

In surveys conducted in 2014 and 2015, representatives of U.S. law enforcement ranked the risk of terrorism from the sovereign citizen movement higher than the risk from any other group, including Islamic extremists, militias, racists, and neo-Nazis.[22][23]

Trying to talk to a sovereign citizen about them being a sovereign citizen…. It’s like trying to talk to somebody who is really messed up on drugs and alcohol… except there’s no drugs and alcohol.

it’s frustrating and before long your head starts to hurt in sympathy.
 

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Trying to talk to a sovereign citizen about them being a sovereign citizen…. It’s like trying to talk to somebody who is really messed up on drugs and alcohol… except there’s no drugs and alcohol.

it’s frustrating and before long your head starts to hurt in sympathy.
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."
--Thomas Paine

It's like D-Cup and her conviction that 2030 is the new 666.
 

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Trying to talk to a sovereign citizen about them being a sovereign citizen…. It’s like trying to talk to somebody who is really messed up on drugs and alcohol… except there’s no drugs and alcohol.

it’s frustrating and before long your head starts to hurt in sympathy.

From what I heard/read, they were 'deputizing' people to play cops last week-ish.

They're not Freedom of the Land but aligned from what I've read. Weird that they're considered left though.
 

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HOW TO CHASE AWAY AN ANNOYING LITTLE TWAT: When he starts throwing down logical fallacies to "win" instead of making an argument, ask him what his proposition is. Then just sit back and watch him drool or run away.
 

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Wtf is with these movements all tying back into anti-semitism?


The ideology hatched in the 1970s and grew out of Posse Comitatus, a US anti-government group that contained many followers who were anti-Semitic and believed governments were controlled by Jews.

 

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Honestly, I think that's what this may truly come down to.

Christianity and racism seems to be a common thread for all of this shit.