South African Slaughter with no notice from International countries

What do you think about the "unnoticed" genocide in South Africa?


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YukonJack

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".. but now when its the whites that are being oppressed canada turns a blind eye..."

That is the most distinguising mark of a corrupt and politically correct (pardon the redundancy) society that can no longer remember what fairness and justice is.
 

Meg88

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Response to MHZ...
Meg what is your first impression of the existence of reservations for out Native population?

Honestly since i have been here i have not given that a thought, though i do know that the Natives are taken care of pretty well, it kinda seems as though they have more perks than any other canadians... but im not sure so dont quote me on this.



we sort of have reservations back home, we call them locations, like Soweto...
 

Meg88

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Is the canadian government really that corrupt... i mean even if they are, at least the citizens of canada are safe, have health care and so on... dont get me wrong, corruption is never good, but at least they kind of look after you here, or protect your human rights... please dont judge me on this, im not very familiar with the happenings here...
 

MHz

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Nothing very extreme compared to SA and many other places. The level of corruption rose once the watch-dogs were shut down by making government non-transparent.

Reservations didn't work out all that well for the people back when they were first introduced. It might be worth studying that history and do the opposite. You will find some similarities to their plight as well as the plight of blacks in SA when the whites had the power. Start them off where we are today would be better, unfortunately that would mean the reservations would be for the white people in SA.
 

Avro

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Well for Haiti I mean we should help with relief effort, but not with rebuilding their country and keeping it stable for the next 30 years.

For Afghanistan, it is impossible to win a war against terrorism. Anyone can be a terrorist. You can't defeat it with a conventional army.

It would be like using our army to defeat the Mafia in Montreal. It simply can't be done. So why continue?

Yep, agreed.

I've been called a terrorist sympathizer for saying such things by dopey conservatives.:roll:
 

Bar Sinister

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According to international statistics South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world. It appears that non-white South Africans are being killed off at an even greater rate than white South Africans. As of 2009 about 3,000 South African farmers had been killed since 1994. That is an ugly number, but it is hardly genocide.

As usual there is more than one side to the problem. The blacks might govern South Africa, but whites still control over 80% of its wealth and most of its farmland. I suspect that if blacks were given a greater share of their own country the murder rate for everyone might decline.
 

Meg88

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in reply to bar sinister...
According to international statistics South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world. It appears that non-white South Africans are being killed off at an even greater rate than white South Africans. As of 2009 about 3,000 South African farmers had been killed since 1994. That is an ugly number, but it is hardly genocide.

As usual there is more than one side to the problem. The blacks might govern South Africa, but whites still control over 80% of its wealth and most of its farmland. I suspect that if blacks were given a greater share of their own country the murder rate for everyone might decline.

Where did you get your stats from... how do you know its only been 3000 farmers... you cant trust the stats that SA says, they dont publish half of the truth because if they did, foriegn tourists wouldnt want to go there!! Ok so there have been more non white murders than white murders.... but with what... say 2 million whites and 47 million blacks... how can you compare that... the stats are wrong about how many whites there are in SA... there are 20 white families leaving SA every WEEK!! immigrating to safer countries!! and i wasnt saying that its ok to murder blacks and not ok to murder whites, we all deserve a safer SA! what i was trying to say is, is that if another country, say canada or the UK boycotted SA, maybe the government will wake up and do something about the choas!

And to response to MHZ...Reservations didn't work out all that well for the people back when they were first introduced. It might be worth studying that history and do the opposite. You will find some similarities to their plight as well as the plight of blacks in SA when the whites had the power. Start them off where we are today would be better, unfortunately that would mean the reservations would be for the white people in SA.

I wouldnt mind at all if there were reservations for whites, as long as we can sleep with both eyes closed at night im happy! i have no problem with giving them whatever they want, as long as they can keep it up and not run it into the ground... take my house, take my neighbourhood, whatever... as long as i can walk to the shop without getting raped in my street, or drive back from work without getting gangbanged and highjacked...

Oh and if the blacks had more land, dont you think they would screw it up like they have screwed up what they already have...
 

Meg88

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oh and by the way... i can understand they hate whites so much... and they want to kill us and rape our children... but then to do it to your own kind aswell... what does that tell you... barbaric!!!! do you know that they think if you rape a baby you will get rid of AIDS... so they rape thier sisters kids or their neighbours babies... and also witch doctors harvest human body parts to make muti.... so basically if you want to win the lottery or make your penis bigger you can go to a witch doctor, he does his hoity toity magic with human nipples, fingers, toes, other explicit body parts and supposedly your wish comes true.... crazy dont you think... and the government allows this ****.... and you tell me that they are not barbaric in any way.. but hey like you said us whites deserve it....
 

AnnaG

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Oh and i really dont expect canada to CHANGE south africa, it would just be nice if they noticed that the white minority is just as important as they black majority, that we also deserve a fair chance of entering canada. And yes i agree, with a background check and police clearance...

Why when there was apartheid did canada boycott SA... i heard something about Canada boycotting Shell because it was a south african brand... but now when its the whites that are being oppressed canada turns a blind eye...
It's Canadian politics that is the problem. Before 1993, we had a government that was against apartheid. Since then we have had gov'ts that were pretty much unconcerned and inactive with foreign strife until Harpy went poking around in Afghanistan.
 

AnnaG

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Is the canadian government really that corrupt... i mean even if they are, at least the citizens of canada are safe, have health care and so on... dont get me wrong, corruption is never good, but at least they kind of look after you here, or protect your human rights... please dont judge me on this, im not very familiar with the happenings here...
We've been experiencing amounts of corruption between about 1984 and now. I think the Canadian gov't has lost direction and has trouble with priorities.
 

AnnaG

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Nothing very extreme compared to SA and many other places. The level of corruption rose once the watch-dogs were shut down by making government non-transparent.
So you think Trudeau's gov't was the last transparent gov't? I think I agree.

Reservations didn't work out all that well for the people back when they were first introduced. It might be worth studying that history and do the opposite. You will find some similarities to their plight as well as the plight of blacks in SA when the whites had the power. Start them off where we are today would be better, unfortunately that would mean the reservations would be for the white people in SA.
Reservations are just plain stupid. Whoever has power would just love to take all the good land for themself and leave the crap for who they don't like. It happened all over North America and South America.
 

AnnaG

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According to international statistics South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world. It appears that non-white South Africans are being killed off at an even greater rate than white South Africans. As of 2009 about 3,000 South African farmers had been killed since 1994. That is an ugly number, but it is hardly genocide.

As usual there is more than one side to the problem. The blacks might govern South Africa, but whites still control over 80% of its wealth and most of its farmland. I suspect that if blacks were given a greater share of their own country the murder rate for everyone might decline.
A share of their own country? Where do you think the whites of S.A. were born? Where do you think the entire human race came from?
 

AnnaG

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oh and by the way... i can understand they hate whites so much... and they want to kill us and rape our children... but then to do it to your own kind aswell... what does that tell you... barbaric!!!! do you know that they think if you rape a baby you will get rid of AIDS... so they rape thier sisters kids or their neighbours babies... and also witch doctors harvest human body parts to make muti.... so basically if you want to win the lottery or make your penis bigger you can go to a witch doctor, he does his hoity toity magic with human nipples, fingers, toes, other explicit body parts and supposedly your wish comes true.... crazy dont you think... and the government allows this ****.... and you tell me that they are not barbaric in any way..
Ignorance is hard to get rid of, alright.
but hey like you said us whites deserve it....
No-one deserves it.
 

MHz

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White or not in a rebellion by the poor it is the ones that are considered to be rich that are going to be the targets. The whites kept a tight reign over the black majority rather than inviting them into society as equals. If you beat a pet because you have it tied up so it cannot properly defend itself you should not be surprised to getting bit when the pet gets loose.

What is the proposed replacement Government supposed to look like?
 

AnnaG

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White or not in a rebellion by the poor it is the ones that are considered to be rich that are going to be the targets. The whites kept a tight reign over the black majority rather than inviting them into society as equals. If you beat a pet because you have it tied up so it cannot properly defend itself you should not be surprised to getting bit when the pet gets loose.
Right. But that still doesn't make for better conditions for either.

What is the proposed replacement Government supposed to look like?
I can think of an alternative. It would be better and easier if she were black, though.
Helen Zille - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

selin

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Education might help, but I'm pretty sure most of it is the result of politics and/or religion. People have been fighting about both since people have been people.
Anyway, I'd like to see Canada do what it can to help in whichever way it can: education, boycotting, whatever works.

only result is politics, capitalists'goals and plans.
even in Africa , they have a hand . Politics is more powerful than anything because it can lead all the evil things using people for their profits causing conflicts on
some issues such as religions, nationalism etc.
 

Bar Sinister

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in reply to bar sinister...

Where did you get your stats from... how do you know its only been 3000 farmers... you cant trust the stats that SA says, they dont publish half of the truth because if they did, foriegn tourists wouldnt want to go there!!

Oh and if the blacks had more land, dont you think they would screw it up like they have screwed up what they already have...

You want stats? Here you are. I never make a post without checking my facts first.
The first one is counting the murders of white farmers in SA.
White farmers 'being wiped out' - Times Online

The second is the world's murder rate. South Africa is number 2.
Murders (per capita) statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

As for the inequity of wealth in South Africa I suggest you read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. It has an entire chapter detailing how white South Africans managed to hand over power to black South Africans and still keep economic control for themselves.

I see from your last comment that you advocate giving the blacks nothing as a possible cure for the nation's ills. Somehow I suspect that won't work very well, as your original post indicated.
 
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