So what faith do non Christians on CC believe in

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Jersay said:
Now if you are not a Christian, you don't have to profess another religion, just a feeling or being a non-believer in any god.

Seeking Christian? :(

I'll admit Ive been seeking lately.

Please share anything you like from your religions, especially from your texts.

That Qur'an is really making me think, along with some posts i've read here from Macho.

anyway, that's my bit.
 

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If your a seeking Christian but not a Christian sure. If you respect the other people's religions or faiths or beliefs sure.
 

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Yeah, its about 2,500- to 3,000 years old I am sure. And looking at it even more, there are claims that it is connected to early Hinduism and the Persian religion before they became Muslims.
 

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I am a "Deist". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
All the great enlightment thinkers were Deists, and I believe that they were right in their view of the world. Where you believe in God, but god being the powerful maker as he is made earth and the rest of creation but then pretty much left and went on to do other things. Deists believe God has nothing to do with the world nor worldy events, such as thunderstorms, hurricans deaths, life, war disease. We believe in reason and the scientific methode.

Deists can be Chriatian, Hindu or whatever really but we just believe that whatever higher power.

Basically the religion of enlightend thinkers. Rousseau, Voltaire and many of the thinkers of the French and American revolution. Pretty much whenever you hear in a constitution the words such as "the creator" it was writen by a Deist thinker.
 

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Jersay said:
A deist, I remember them, yeah, cool Finder and Laika cool for your choice too.


thanks, and you have chosen an interesting path. It reminds me of myself when I was a teenager and somewhat believed in Wiccan/Celtic traditional beliefs.
 

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I'm agnostic. I believe in the scientific method where it can be applied.

I think Zen Buddhism has the best practical approach to spirituality.

Of all the Judeo-Christian religions, I'm most comfortable with the Baha'i faith, of which my mate is a member and in which we're raising our children. Baha'ullah's writings are definitely worth reading.

Aside from those personal observations, I think all faiths are equally "true" and all faiths are equally false. At the core of each is the same wisdom. At the fringes of each is fodder for crazy, hate-filled fanatics.
 

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pastafarian said:
I'm agnostic. I believe in the scientific method where it can be applied.

I think Zen Buddhism has the best practical approach to spirituality.

Of all the Judeo-Christian religions, I'm most comfortable with the Baha'i faith, of which my mate is a member and in which we're raising our children. Baha'ullah's writings are definitely worth reading.

Aside from those personal observations, I think all faiths are equally "true" and all faiths are equally false. At the core of each is the same wisdom. At the fringes of each is fodder for crazy, hate-filled fanatics.

You should look up Deism...
 

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the caracal kid said:
Simple answer:

"god" is a construct, a status cast upon something by another. "You" make something a "god". There are a great many things that somebody somewhere in some time proclaimed a "god", and when the proclamation ended, the god died (became lost in history or relabeled mythology).

The universe itself is a living system, and if you want to call it a god, then you are a part of the god. This is the closest to reality of any mythology.


I have enough faith to know you are correct C/K.
We were all created in the image of god (the universe) hence our penchance for dominion and invention.
Mutiple universes multiple Gods.

I don't worry about the big Gods though just the one whose radiant light I stand in and on everyday. :) :) :) :) :)

But there's still lots of room for all things under the sun. :)
 

darkbeaver

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The universe created us and we created god to
account for our creation by the universe which created us and we created god ..............................kaboom......new universe where we'll have to create god to account for our creation by the universe which created us....................where's my pipe time for one of the lesser gods.

After thousands of years of research and the organized murder of organized religion science is pointing at the stars as our creator something we knew sitting arround camp fires at the begining of our time here, after several million pages of religious text and handbooks to heaven we end up where we began, there's a circle for us. What a waste.
 

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Isn't there a bit of controversy connected with that 'Asatru' religion; what I mean is the political and cultural side of this group:

For example in Norway, don't they have members that burn churches? and in general, isn't there an idea that Vikings are a better people, in a racial sense?
 

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Yes, a part of Asatru people did have a violent struggle in Norway where they committed several attacks on Norweigan churches and killed several people.

No, Anglo-Saxons, and most christian radicals believe they are of a higher standard not Asatru members.
 

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I believe in the scientific method as well, that's why I know the Sun is god

Well, given that stars are the Creators of all the elements needed to make us (except for hydrogen) and that the Sun makes life possible and drives evolution, a person could do much worse than the Sun for a deity, that's for sure.

As far as Deism goes, there's no question that it is a sensible, intelligent way to imagine God. Still, it does imagine a God. I've become comvinced that humans (and perhaps a handful of other mammals) have an innate tendency to believe in a transcendent reality. I think it co-evolved as part of the cortical harware that makes abstract, imaginative thought possible. Being the egotistical, self-absorbed primates that we are, we have tended to anthropormophize it, but it takes many forms, even for atheists (e.g.appreciation of music or art).

I'm not convinced that a God hypotehsis, even one as sensible as that of the Deists, is necessary.

Besides, if a God does exist, She is so far beyond the comprehension of us mortals that any conception we might have of her is so pathetically limited as to be meaningless. Perhaps she exists in a way that cross all of our limited conceptual categories i.e. is personal for those who need a Mommy God, is impersonal for the more rationally-inclined, exists complete but concealed in each human like a hologram, exists separate of Her Creation, permeates ever point of space and photon as per the Pantheists, all at once without contradiction...
 

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I used to be an agnostic......























but I'm suurrrreeeeeee anymore!!! :p
 

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RE: So what faith do non

Forgive me if this point is a non-sequitor...but it has to do with the nature of faith and one's personal belief in God: even as my belief in a higher force wanes, and I get into rationalizing what little faith I have: that God is a metaphor for the universe -- of course I'll believe in God if you permit me to make up my own definition.

So here's my point. It's really hard to embrace another religion. So much of religion concerns cultural artefacts: such as childhood memories singing 'Onward Christian Soldiers'. I've tried reading the Dalai Lama, and sampling Buddhism, but there's so many unfamiliar names of characters and stuff -- you need an interpreter... but when it comes to basic events in the cycle of life, ceremonies like baptism, weddings and funerals, I still favour Chistian church.

And I might add, just like a photographer's gray scale, it seems you can have varying degrees of belief in God. For example: the retired Anglican Bishop, Richard Holloway (currently in the aetheist position).
 

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Y'know amidst all this high falutin' talk about God and metaphysical stuff, I forgot what is probably the most important function of religion, which is to mark, honour, provide continuity to the milestones that every generation of humans shares with each other, across cultures and eras: birth, passage into adulthood, weddings and death. By means of community-based rituals, the universality of these human events has been woven into the traditions of many societies and has helped each generation find its identity in tribal history.

Of course, we have outgrown this in many ways and i think it's responsible for a lot of the backlash into fundamentalism that has arisen , particularly in the three Judeo-Christian traditions. the loss of community identity and affirming rituals, as well as, of course, the challenge to mythic/magical thinking that scientific thought has brought.

I suppose we'll either have to adopt new faiths, like the Baha'i Faith (and perhaps some of the Pagan groups that are emerging) that are compatible with the changes occurring in modern society, or religion will become less and less important to communities.

I wonder what will replace it.
 

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Baha'i Faith, is a alright faith but the islamic word tends to not understand the faith and their is a lot of propaganda out their against them. For the simple reason that they regonize Mohammed as a prophet but not the last prophet as they see this as an afront to the Koran