Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!

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From the article...

"Shop carefully. Many of the cheaper plans will have a high deductible, so if you have a chronic disease or lots of young children, you may not want this option. You can save money by choosing a plan that limits where you seek care, but check to see if your doctor(s) are in the covered network."

So the plans are inexpensive... until you actually use them!? We can save money by choosing plans that limit where we seek care?! That means that the more we pay the more choices! That means if the less means we have the lesser care and the more means we have the better care!
 

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Wrong once again. The states which are not coloured were not included in the survey. Typical lefty cherry picking on your part.
BHOcare - bankrupting the US.


Yeah like 0-5% is an enormous amount of money and this before the subsidies were factored. Geezo! And it's still less than before ACA came into being. Try again.
 

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USA's newest "socialist" defends Obamacare after it saved his life:


Thank you to my Republican governor and legislature: live blogging Obamacare from the hospital.


Thank you to my Republican governor and legislature: live blogging Obamacare from the hospital.



I have some things to admit up front. I was a vocal critic of Obamacare. For me, holding a low-income job at the time of passage, Obamacare was the worst "remedy" to the health care crisis imaginable. Even if I qualified for subsidies, I would be required to buy insurance that I could never use. Having insurance but not being able to afford deductibles or copays would be akin to having to buy car insurance even though I can no longer drive. I supported Obama over Clinton primarily because he opposed the individual mandate, and I felt betrayed. Not so much anymore. For that I guess I have to thank my Republican governor and legislature.

Between passage and implementation of Obamacare, my health steadily declined. Fifteen years of not being able to afford diabetes treatment, and not being eligible for insurance because I had diabetes, was taking its toll. I can no longer work or drive. For a long while, I could do gardening and projects around the house. My brother suggested I was a malingerer for not working but still being able to lay a paver patio for my sister. I asked him to help me look for a job where I could work for a couple hours a day, no more than one hour at a time, and take three weeks to finish a two-day project. But that's a digression - maybe a bitter digression.

Anyway, with the implementation of Obamacare this year, I went on the website to see where I stood. One of the questions was whether I had a disability which prevented me from working. Note it did not ask if I had been diagnosed with a disability which prevented me from working, or if I was receiving disability. I answered yes, but was leery about whether my own acknowledgement of the effects of my illness would be sufficient. I still am leery, but less so with the turn of events since January.

The national exchange website told me to contact my state Medicaid office. I live in a blood red state, but our officials accepted Medicaid expansion. The Supreme Court said they did not have to, and extremists urged them not to.

I have often wondered what response I would have gotten if I lived 70 miles south or west of where I do. Maybe the website would have suggested, instead of contacting my state Medicaid office, contact every state Republican official and ask them why they are such morons. But, again, I digress.

Because North Dakota accepted Medicaid expansion, I was eligible and began being treated for diabetes in January. Medicaid pays, or at least my records show they are billed, over $800 per month for insulin. I was paying $6 per month, but last month the pharmacist said for some reason I owed nothing at all. Maybe the program now pays 100 percent - we'll soon find out.

I also have been treated for eye problems. Seeing an ophthamologist costs $2 per visit. My ophthamologist is Yale-educated and from Romania. I prefer foreign-born doctors; I feel they have guts and determination and courage to leave home, friends and family to better themselves. That is why I cannot for the life of me understand the right-wingers' stance on the refugee children on our border, but, again, I digress.

In July I had a regularly-scheduled check-up with my diabetes doctor. In a happy coincidence, he is also from Romania. I am learning simple Romanian phrases to show appreciation, and am surprised at how similar Romanian is to Latin. My guess is that the name Romania somehow has an historic connection to Rome. I know, I know - digressing again.

At the July check-up, the doctor said my blood pressure was really low, and asked if I had ever experienced low blood pressure before. I had not. He told me to check it frequently at home. I bought a home meter and discovered it was consistently in the area of 70/55. The diastolic dropped as low as 67 and the systolic 47. I called his office after a week. They immediately scheduled an appointment with a cardiologist. Again, $2.

I went to the cardiologist (from India) and explained my symptoms, which included fatigue, loss of balance, falling, light-headedness. He performed an EKG and other tests. He said the tests showed a high likelihood that I had suffered a heart attack without knowing it. He scheduled an echocardiogram and a stress test for the next week. I took the 100 -mile trip again the next week for the tests. Before I got home, I had a message saying we had to do an angiogram.

Here I lie, a week later and another 100-mile-each-way trip. Because I fell on the stairs earlier this week and hurt my wrist, I have a catheter in my groin. Nurses come by to check my groin frequently. Frankly, I've never had so much interest in my groin for such an extended length of time. But I digress, what's new?

During the angiogram, it was decided that I needed two shunts. (Shunts? Stents? Not sure of the proper term.) That meant an overnight stay in the hospital. And here I am.

Yes, the primary appreciation goes to Obama and Pelosi and Reid, not to mention the members of congress. And also to the millions of people like you who helped get them elected. But I also owe a debt of thanks to a group of people I will never support. Being a broken clock and getting something right every once in a while cannot excuse or override all the harm they have done and still want to do to North Dakota.

Still, it would have been easy or expedient to join the chorus of Republicans suffering from Obama derangement syndrome. How they escaped that dementia, I may never know. But I am grateful they did, and grieve for the people like me in the 24 states that don't have my fortune.

I don't know why I felt compelled to share, except maybe that I am bored and MSNBC has gone to prison porn and there are only so many games of Words with Friends to play. I certainly did not share in an effort to seek compassion or prayers (especially not prayers because, to be blunt, fairy tales annoy me, sorry). I am not looking for comments saying, "Get well" or anything like that. I'll make a deal - if your refrain from those kind of comments, I'll extend everyone the courtesy of assuming you're thinking it.

My point (and here I feel like Bill Clinton when he gave that keynote speech in 1980(?) and finally said "in conclusion. . .") is that Obamacare is - it must be - only a first step. Too many red state residents are left out. Perhaps more forgotten and overlooked are those who, like me in 2010, have subsidized insurance but cannot afford to use it. If my annual deductible had been even $250, I would not have insulin, I would never have seen a podiatrist (Japanese/Canadian, btw), a cardiologist or an ophthamologist. I most likely would not have gone to a doctor at all.
 

Walter

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What BS. He/she would, by law, have to be cared for either through Medicaid or some other gubmint agency.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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What BS. He/she would, by law, have to be cared for either through Medicaid or some other gubmint agency.
That right, Walter? Explain this to me. Back when I was a law student, making enough to get by but no more, I had a friend who had an abcessed tooth that needed antibiotics. My friend worked a full-time job, and because of that didn't qualify for Medicaid. She could afford the antibiotics, but not the doctor or dentist for the prescription.

Another friend of mine is a vet, and I talked him into writing a scrip for antibiotics for my sick friend. He was reluctant. He said "I don't know human dosages." I replied "Pretend she'a a 120-pound dog."

Worked fine.

Obamacare sucks. It's the worst, most expensive, least effective way to bring health care to the people that the genius and malice of greed could possibly devise.

But the only thing more evil than that is you. You'd look at a suffering child and say "Can't afford medicine? Die." Then you'd go off to church and congratulate yourself on what a good man you are.
 

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As I have posted before, I have a brother who is a GP in TX. When he's on call at the local hospital he has to, by law (and Hippocratic oath), treat all comers.
 

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reatAs I have said before I have a brother who is a GP in TX. When he's on call at the local hospital he has to, by law (and Hippocratic oath), treat all comers.
And you would look at a sick child and say "Can't afford medicine? Die."

I'm not talking to your brother. That's a shame.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You got documented proof that that happens in the US?
I don't need documentation to see your heart, Walter.

I'm a lawyer, remember? I can't even remember all the times I've heard (and said) the last defence of a guilty man. . . "You can't prove it."



Well, that explains why you like the Canadian system.

But seriously, the Hep C cure problem is huge. There's a cure for a devastating disease, but it's so expensive that it would break a country to provide it to all who need it.

Decent human beings would get to work figuring out how to make it as available and affordable as possible.

People like you use it as a thin defence for your greed and cruelty.

Be sure to give me a reddie for that, Walter. Because your reddies are a billboard that says "I have heard the truth and I don't like it."
 

Walter

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I don't need documentation to see your heart, Walter.

I'm a lawyer, remember? I can't even remember all the times I've heard (and said) the last defence of a guilty man. . . "You can't prove it."
Lost another one because you can't prove it. You're like Mentalflaws, always pulling crap out of yer a$$.
 
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Another big boost for Obamacare



By Greg Sargent August 28

In another sign that the politics of Obamacare continue to shift, the Medicaid expansion is now all but certain to come to another big state whose Republican governor had previously resisted it: Pennsylvania.

The federal government has approved Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett’s application for the state’s own version of the Medicaid expansion, without a handful of the conditions Corbett had hoped to impose, Dem sources tell me.

Corbett just announced that he will accept the expansion that has been offered, perhaps with some last-minute changes — expanding coverage and subsidies to as many as half a million people.

This comes after months of jockeying between Corbett and the federal government. Corbett had pushed for a version of the expansion that would have imposed various conditions designed to make it more palatable to conservatives and to achieve political distance from Obamacare — while simultaneously taking all that federal money. Among them: Using the cash to pay for private coverage for the poor.

Another big boost for Obamacare - The Washington Post




The Keystone state is next in what will inevitably be a complete win for Obamacare.
 

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Another big boost for Obamacare - Tennessee is next!



Next red state up for Medicaid expansion:*Tennessee


Neighboring the nation's two biggest Obamacare success stories has apparently made Republican Gov. Bill Haslam in Tennessee reconsider his refusal of Medicaid expansion under the law. Arkansas and Kentucky lead the nation in reducing the number of uninsured people in their states, largely because they accepted the expansion. Haslam appears to want in on the action now.
This would be the first time for the governor to actually submit a plan. If approved by federal officials and the state legislature, the plan would help Tennesseans caught in the coverage gap of the Affordable Care Act, which has left 162,000 Tennesseans without health insurance, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
In March 2013, Haslam ruled out expansion of a traditional Medicaid model and said he favored a plan to leverage federal funds to, instead, help the poor buy private health insurance. Haslam said then that a "Tennessee Plan" should require copayments, which traditional Medicaid does not, so people would have "some skin in the game."

Now he's saying that the state could submit an application for a waiver in the program in the fall. It would follow the Arkansas model for expansion, using the public funds to subsidize purchase of private plans for the new enrollees.
Haslam is going to have to convince his Republican legislature to go along with the plan, and that could lead him to craft a program that the federal government would reject. A very recent example is Pennsylvania, which just announced a deal with the federal government to expand the program. There's only so far the administration will go to work with a Republican governor on Medicaid. In Gov. Tom Corbett's case, the administration refused to tie Medicaid enrollment to employment, restricting the program to people who have jobs or are actively looking for one. Haslam's idea to force copays from the newly eligible Medicaid recipients could be rejected, too. Iowa tried to impose premiums on people who earned more than 50 percent of the federal poverty line, and that was denied. The White House isn't going to be willing to create an unreasonable financial burden on low-income people.

Haslam is in the place a growing number of Republican governors—recognizing that Obamacare is increasingly less toxic, and that rejecting the money that is helping a lot of people and providing an economic boon to states is pretty politically damaging.




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