Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

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Johnny Utah

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JonB2004

Your argument that 2300 American soldiers died and 250,000 Iraqi's died (where the hell did you ever get that number by the way) is not a premise for a war crime. War crimes are defined as breaking rules of engagement, intentionally killing civilian populations and so forth.
And people like JonB2004 wonder why their never taken serious. :roll:
 

pastafarian

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If Bush and Cheney were filmed strangling babies, the Fox dupes would say they were trying to perform CPR. :laughing8: :laughing5:

 

BitWhys

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Toro said:
JonB2004 said:
What the hell is wrong with you? Can't handle the truth?

The truth?

The truth is that this ain't about controlling the Iraqi oil fields.

Can't you handle the truth?

I agree. Being in the back rooms so you can promote the fast tracking of Production Sharing Agreements (pdf) is more of a pleasant bonus than anything else.

boots on the ground, baby. boots on the ground.
 

FiveParadox

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Heh, cute comic, pastafarian.

As for suggestions that there doesn't need to be an intelligent debate here because far left-wing "Kool-Aid drinkers" won't "understand", I would suggest you give people more credit than that. It's important that we collectively exhaust our talking points, so that we can consider what has been said, and develop informed opinions on the subject matter.
 

pastafarian

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People who think the Iraq war is about "spreading democracy" or "liberating the Iraqi people" don't need to bother with "reason": their president talks to God... :p

Debating the useful idiots part #354,166:

 

Toro

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RE: Should George Bush be

BitWhys

Iraqi oil production has fallen from 3 million barrels a day a few decades ago to around 1.5-1.7 mm b/d. The equipment is old and dilapitated, and the technical ability of the Iraqi companies are lagging, to say the least.

If you want to develop the oil fields, where would you get the technology and capital to do so?
 

BitWhys

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Re: RE: Should George Bush be

Toro said:
BitWhys

Iraqi oil production has fallen from 3 million barrels a day a few decades ago to around 1.5-1.7 mm b/d. The equipment is old and dilapitated, and the technical ability of the Iraqi companies are lagging, to say the least.

If you want to develop the oil fields, where would you get the technology and capital to do so?

oh right absolutely. I'd sign as many you-can't-lose-first-blood contracts with the first rich bastard the US Embassy sends my way. no question about it. I've got books to balance for the Paris Club's front men after all. That last tranche is a whopper.
 

Johnny Utah

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Toro said:
BitWhys

Iraqi oil production has fallen from 3 million barrels a day a few decades ago to around 1.5-1.7 mm b/d. The equipment is old and dilapitated, and the technical ability of the Iraqi companies are lagging, to say the least.

If you want to develop the oil fields, where would you get the technology and capital to do so?
Iraq's Oil Industry was in disaray from years of neglect by Saddam.

For the War for Oil Moonbats, if The War was only about Iraqi Oil the United States would have bought off Saddam like France, Germany and Russia did rather then almost spending at least1 Trillion when everything is said and done and losing over 2,300 American Soldiers.
 

pastafarian

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I would suggest you give people more credit than that. It's important that we collectively exhaust our talking points, so that we can consider what has been said, and develop informed opinions on the subject matter.

FiveParadox, keep fighting the good fight, I'll watch.

But this isn't even a liberal/conservative, socialist/capitalist thing anymore.
Intelligent conservatives are embarrassed by the Bush regime.

The ones who are left supporting Bush don't want "informed opinion"; it is their enemy. They want vitriol, like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Horowitz and the other drooling attack-dogs.

They want to be spoon-fed pablum so they can curl up in their limited little ideologies, protected from the Bad People. You can lead an idiot to reality, but you can't make him accept it
 

Toro

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Re: RE: Should George Bush be

BitWhys said:
oh right absolutely. I'd sign as many you-can't-lose-first-blood contracts with the first rich bastard the US Embassy sends my way. no question about it. I've got books to balance for the Paris Club's front men after all. That last tranche is a whopper.

Or, you can be like Mexico, with massive reserves of natural gas, but importing gas from Texas because they don't have the capital or technical ability to get enough out of the ground for their own domestic consumption.
 

Johnny Utah

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pastafarian said:
I would suggest you give people more credit than that. It's important that we collectively exhaust our talking points, so that we can consider what has been said, and develop informed opinions on the subject matter.

FiveParadox, keep fighting the good fight, I'll watch.

But this isn't even a liberal/conservative, socialist/capitalist thing anymore.
Intelligent conservatives are embarrassed by the Bush regime.

The ones who are left supporting Bush don't want "informed opinion"; it is their enemy. They want vitriol, like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Horowitz and the other drooling attack-dogs.

They want to be spoon-fed pablum so they can curl up in their limited little ideologies, protected from the Bad People. You can lead an idiot to reality, but you can't make him accept it
If anyone should be embarrassed it's people like you.

People like you are truly the idiots, who keep having the Conspiracy Theories and the propaganda spoon fed to them because in the end it's all you have to believe your own BS.
 

pastafarian

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FiveParadox, i should probably be a bit more clear, and for Toro too, since I have seen him use reason in an economic debate: I'll debate lots of things. But i'm not going to debate whether or not Alberta is located on the moon, whether Hitler was basically a decent person, but misunderstood, whether cars use little monkeys on treadmills to power them, whether Noah actually built a boat and collected two of every animal or whether Bush invaded Iraq for any of the different sets of reasons he stated. Actually, the Noah thing is more likely...

There was a time when a case could have been made for attacking Iraq, but after the Downing Street memo, the plagiarism of a Journal of Middle east Studied paper used as evidence, the Niger Uranium fiasco along with the treasonous "outing" of Valerie Plame, reports from the IAEA about Iraq's supposed nuclear capacity, the lies about connection between Saddam and 9/11 and so on and so on...
 

BitWhys

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Re: RE: Should George Bush be

Toro said:
Or, you can be like Mexico, with massive reserves of natural gas, but importing gas from Texas because they don't have the capital or technical ability to get enough out of the ground for their own domestic consumption.

please

there's a huge difference between a decent drilling contract and being taken advantage of. Production Sharing Agreements, especially for development of known reserves like what's getting snapped up in Iraq, are an oil company's dream.

funny how that worked out. like I said. bonus.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: Should George Bush be

Toro said:
JonB2004 said:
What the hell is wrong with you? Can't handle the truth?

The truth?

The truth is that this ain't about controlling the Iraqi oil fields.

Can't you handle the truth?


Since you seem to know what is going on overthere, tell us what is the truth.


No wmd
no immenent threat
no liberation


what is left?
 

aeon

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JonB2004

Your argument that 2300 American soldiers died and 250,000 Iraqi's died (where the hell did you ever get that number by the way) is not a premise for a war crime. War crimes are defined as breaking rules of engagement, intentionally killing civilian populations and so forth.


Exactly that is why george w bush should be impreached.