Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

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darkbeaver

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RE: Should George Bush be

The use of phospherous bombs
The use of DU
The death of civilians
The destruction of infrastructure
The theft of assets
The deaths of American soldiers

I'll get my legal staff working on a proper list with all the proper codes and infractions in the morning plus additional charges.
 

FiveParadox

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Re: Charing Bush with War Crimes

In my opinion, the term war crimes is a bit broad; perhaps we should, as suggested by I think not above, discuss each "crime" in particular — I don't think it would be appropriate to lump every possible offence together. However, thinking that someone should be charged, and evidence be presented for each party's case and have the situation assessed therefrom, is quite a leap from whether or not I would think he should be convicted of those crimes (which I think would be more to the point, given the tone of this thread).

If there is information to suggest that perhaps His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, the President of the United States of America has indeed acted in a way which could be deemed to have been a war crime, then yes, I think he should be charged — where there is so much as suspicion of crimes such as these, I would suggest that charges are quite warranted, and should (within reason) be pursued. As to whether I think that he would (or should) be convicted of those crimes, I think that I would need to see the particular charge, and the evidence presented by both sides to many any such assessment.
 

I think not

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OK Darkbeaver, I'll concede that every single item you posted is a war crime (I really don't but for the sake of argument). Why hasn't any country, any judicial body, any ogranization anywhere in the world, perform a trial, even if it a mock trial to prove a political point.

You have the answer? Because I don't.
 

darkbeaver

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RE: Should George Bush be

There was mock trials conducted a couple of months ago, Ramsey Clark was involved, thanks for reminding me, I'll see who was charged and with what.
 

Johnny Utah

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Re: RE: Should George Bush be

darkbeaver said:
There was mock trials conducted a couple of months ago, Ramsey Clark was involved, thanks for reminding me, I'll see who was charged and with what.
Ramsey Clark? The same Ramsey Clark who is on Saddam's defense team. :lol: :lol:
 

Johnny Utah

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Toro said:
JonB2004 said:
George Bush went to Iraq for no reason but oil.

BUZZZZZ.

Wrong!

I'll try Anti-Americanism for $400 Alex.

Alex Trebek: What phrase is often used to describe Anti-Americans?
 

JonB2004

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Johnny Utah, what is the phrase often used to describe Anti-Americans?
 

zoofer

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JonB2004 said:
Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

George Bush went to Iraq for no reason but oil. About 2300 U.S. soldiers and about 250,000 Iraqis have died in this war. George Bush invaded Iraq because he believed that they posessed weapons of mass destruction. The UN went to Iraq to investigate these claims and found nothing. The U.S defied the UN orders not to invade Iraq. For that George Bush should be charged for commiting war crimes.

A addlepated juvenile crock of bovine shit.
:roll:
 

JonB2004

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Could you be anymore specific with that remark? Tell me, Zoofer, why is it BS? <snip> High on the flame meter </snip>
 

FiveParadox

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Hey! Drag it to Wreck Beach. Let's drag this back on-topic.

:arrow: Re: Bush, War Crimes

I think he should be charged, but as of yet, not convicted. I am suspicious enough of wrong-doing to suggest that we should have evidence presented on both sides, but after that, I would need to read documentation presented in order to come up with whether or not I think he should be convicted of such crimes.
 

I think not

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JonB2004

Your argument that 2300 American soldiers died and 250,000 Iraqi's died (where the hell did you ever get that number by the way) is not a premise for a war crime. War crimes are defined as breaking rules of engagement, intentionally killing civilian populations and so forth.
 

pastafarian

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Most war crimes fall into one of three categories: crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, and traditional war crimes. Crimes against peace include the planning, commencement, and waging of aggressive war, or war in violation of international agreements. Aggressive war is broadly defined to include any hostile military act that disregards the territorial boundaries of another country, disrespects the political independence of another regime, or otherwise interferes with the sovereignty of an internationally recognized state. Wars fought in self-defense are not aggressive wars.

Following World War II, for example, the Allies prosecuted a number of leading Nazi officials at the Nuremberg trials for crimes against peace.

Legal Encyclopedia: "War Crimes"

Just like Hitler invading Czechoslovakia and Poland, or Saddam invading Kuwait, Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq in wars of aggression, NOT self-defence.

Hermann Göring, chief of the Luftwaffe (the German Air Force), was one Nazi official who was convicted of crimes against peace at the Nuremberg trials. The international military tribunal presiding at Nuremberg, comprised of judges selected from the four Allied powers (France, Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the United States), found that Göring had helped plan and carry out the invasions of Poland and Austria and had ordered the destruction of Rotterdam, Holland, after the city had effectively surrendered.

Cheney, Rice, Powell and Rumsfeld should be similarly tried and sentenced like Göring was.
 

aeon

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JonB2004 said:
Should George Bush be charged for commiting war crimes?

George Bush went to Iraq for no reason but oil. About 2300 U.S. soldiers and about 250,000 Iraqis have died in this war. George Bush invaded Iraq because he believed that they posessed weapons of mass destruction. The UN went to Iraq to investigate these claims and found nothing. The U.S defied the UN orders not to invade Iraq. For that George Bush should be charged for commiting war crimes.


In united states they impeached peoples who has a good blow job, not for war crime.
 

pastafarian

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In united states they impeached peoples who has a good blow job, not for war crime
.

Yeah, but that's because US politics is dominated by corrupt robber barons who use the media to attack anyone who appears to be looking out for the average American (and Clinton just appeared to be doing it). They have tens of millions of "useful idiots" brainwashed by the the Fundamentalist Xtian churches or Fox "News" who really do think a blowjob is worse than mass murder. It's about partisanship, power and keeping the the masses ignorant and entertained.

That people can still hold the opinion that Bush didn't lie to get into Iraq is a tribute to the stupidity the human race is capable of and to the relentlessness of US propaganda.