Shame on you NDP.

[gc]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

Just saw Jack talking about how it is necessary to "crack down on these illegal guns coming across the border"

Idiot.

First of all, there is NO indication yet whether the firearm used in Montreal was illegal or not.

Second of all, if it is in the country and illegal, by definition the government doesn't know about it, so how can you crack down?

Penalties are already harsh, and practically every legitimate gun owner I know has a gun or two that is NOT registered. Good luck with that, Jack.

Thirdly, how does Jack know it was smuggled in from the USA" That is actually doubtful.

I remember hearing Jack when he first became leader promising that, if elected, he would solve Canada's "gun problem" by sending a delegation to the US Congress to encourage them to pass strict gun control legislation.

He's obviously never heard of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.

Why doesn't that surprize me?

Jack is an idiot, yes. But he's an idiot for wanting to withdraw from afghanistan, not for wanting to crack down on guns.

1. Whether the gun in this particular instance was smuggled from the USA or not, it doesn't change the fact that crimes are committed with illegal guns smuggled from the USA

2. I think what Jack meant is crack down on smuggling, stop them from getting across the border. I'm not sure how that would be done, maybe more security/searches at the border.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

Mr. Layton has did it again. Today he said our troops should be pulled out of Afghanistan and put to work chasing illegal fishing boats.The man is becoming unglued. I think he should sit down and have a chat with Pam Barrett and discuss his future.

what's the problem with that?

It worked for Iceland.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

First of all, there is NO indication yet whether the firearm used in Montreal was illegal or not.

gee

what are the chances that guy's Beretta had only five rounds in the clip?

 

[EastSideScotian]

The gun used was apperantly an Automatic rifle of sorts....they are illegal in Canada Regardless, if that was infact the type of gun used, the media is keeping all details very confusseing since I last checked.

As for Layton, he is just jumping a bandwagon, to get a vote, he complains about their being no reason for the troops to be in Afganistain, but yet he cant really give a good reason on why leaving Afganistain is a good idea ethier..

I nearly Pissed my pants trying to picture our Army sitting in boats, and frigetes waiting for European trollers to come strolling along. Layton doesnt know whats going on then, Maybe its because he isnt from a Coast of Canada, Right now on the east, thats barely an issue between the Coastguard, Navy and RCMP we have cracked down very well over the past decade on illegal fishing. Another hilliarous reason is the army isnt the Navy, and the reason the Soldiers are in the army is because they chose not to be in the Navy....Someone Please tell me what the hell the point of Putting the soldiers on Naval ships is going to do right now? thats the worst Idea I ever Heard.

 

[BitWhys]

there are many who will tell you things have been glossed over very well since the Turbot War and that's about it. many of THEM will tell you the situation is getting worse.

the Liberals would claim its under control. that should be a warning flag right there.

 

[EastSideScotian]

Dude, 3 of my uncles own off shore/ deep sea fishing boats/trollers, and I have worked on 2 of them for a few summers in the last 5 years, beleave me their is no threat. Iam from the coast and a fishing Village at that, its one thing i have some first hand knowlage at.

 

[BitWhys]

I'll wait to hear from a less motivated source, thanks.

 

[EastSideScotian]

A less motivated source, would get their info from people with first hand knowlage. Id also like to know what you consider a less Motivated Source, one that agrees with your misconception?

 

[BitWhys]

one who by definition doesn't have it in for Jack.

 

[Zzarchov]

I think what he's saying is this is the internet. You may or may not be a fisherman and may just be trying to make a point, in the same way I may or not be a "Space Cowboy" for my job. (hint, leaning towards may not)

 

[EastSideScotian]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

I think what he's saying is this is the internet. You may or may not be a fisherman and may just be trying to make a point, in the same way I may or not be a "Space Cowboy" for my job. (hint, leaning towards may not)

Iam not a fisherman, I was a deck hand, big differance.

And yes my Uncles do own fishing Trollers, 2 rght here in my Hometown and one by Rustico PEI. But ok I see your point.

As for having it in for jack, I actully use to vote NDP, I did last Federal Election vote for Peter Stoffer (who is pro-millitary) and that has been the reason, but jack has made some foolish comments and Unfortuneatly it going to hurt alot of support for stoffer this town has, but its also a Millitary town, Alot of peole are going to look for a better rep.

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

First of all, there is NO indication yet whether the firearm used in Montreal was illegal or not.

gee

what are the chances that guy's Beretta had only five rounds in the clip?

First of all, pictures on the news show the shooter posing with what looks like a Beretta Storm carbine. That is a semi-automatic firearm that fires pistol ammunition (9mm or .40 S&W, perhaps .45 ACP), and takes pistol magazines.

Pistol magazines are allowed 10 rounds, although the second you stick one in a carbine, it becomes a prohibited weapon, as rifles and carbines are restricted to magazines of no more than 5 rounds.

Don't ask, it doesn't have to make sense, it is gov't policy.

The Beretta Storm is legal in Canada, but restricted (in the same class as a handgun) This guy probably (I don't actually know) held this weapon perfectly legally, which means he passed two government-mandated safety courses, and was a member of a shooting club.

Strangely enough, it seems the guy didn't do any shooting with the Storm, if he even had it with him. According to staff at the hospital, the wounded all had low velocity .22 caliber wounds. Lucky for them, as the larger caliber Storm would have caused more serious wounds........

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

Pistol magazines are allowed 10 rounds, although the second you stick one in a carbine, it becomes a prohibited weapon, as rifles and carbines are restricted to magazines of no more than 5 rounds.

no duh

like I said. what are the chances?

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Shame on you NDP.

Pistol magazines are allowed 10 rounds, although the second you stick one in a carbine, it becomes a prohibited weapon, as rifles and carbines are restricted to magazines of no more than 5 rounds.

no duh

like I said. what are the chances?

The chances are absolutely nil, I was agreeing with you.

It seems, however, this was NOT the weapon he actually used in the shootings. It appears most of the wounded were hit with bullets fired from a .22 rimfire.

Too weird.

 

[iARTthere4iam]

Poland is sending another 900 or so troops to Afghanistan (they already have 100). Hopefully other countries will step up and this can be sorted out sooner rather than later.

I'm wondering why anyone would support militant groups running around the country undermining the government. If the Taleban want to be a legitimate opposition to the government or mabey later get into power I don't care I just think they should respect the authority of the government. I do think for a real functioning government to be established, there must be a centralized military rather than warring factions.