Seems legit here given the usual comments.

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And in the last 2 paragraphs they back peddle and insert disclaimers. In other words, the study really means nothing.
 

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And in the last 2 paragraphs they back peddle and insert disclaimers. In other words, the study really means nothing.
Sociological and social psychology studies generally do (mean nothing, that is), and even when they do, they should be taken with a block of salt and lots and lots of caveats and disclaimers.

If anything, I'll credit the authors for backpedaling. Social psychology and sociology aren't Newtonian physics. They're a lot more complicated than vector analysis.
 

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What exactly is emotional intelligence and how is it measured? Looks to me like they mean people capable of rational thought.
 

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Its bullshit psuedo science.
Ding. The left think emotional relativism is emotional intelligence. There is no such thing as "emotional intelligence" because by and large, emotions are illogical. They are nothing more than autonomous chemical reactions responding to stimuli. Being ruled by ones emotions doesn't make you intelligent, quite the opposite actually. When you let "feelings" supersede logic and rational thought, you're not acting very intelligently at all.
 

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Ding. The left think emotional relativism is emotional intelligence. There is no such thing as "emotional intelligence" because by and large, emotions are illogical. They are nothing more than autonomous chemical reactions responding to stimuli. Being ruled by ones emotions doesn't make you intelligent, quite the opposite actually. When you let "feelings" supersede logic and rational thought, you're not acting very intelligently at all.


Aaannndddd... you absolutely nullified your argument with "the left".


About as equal to anything "The left" says when they say "The right".


But question, you said "When you let 'feelings' supersede logic and rational thought - what happens when it's those who have right wing aligned political beliefs that act on this? Are they no longer right wing or worthy supporters of those causes, but instead unintelligent people who should just be ignored?
 

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Aaannndddd... you absolutely nullified your argument with "the left".
About as equal to anything "The left" says when they say "The right".
But question, you said "When you let 'feelings' supersede logic and rational thought - what happens when it's those who have right wing aligned political beliefs that act on this? Are they no longer right wing or worthy supporters of those causes, but instead unintelligent people who should just be ignored?

You agree, then, that this "study" is bs as it "nullifies" itself by using "the right".
 

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What exactly is emotional intelligence and how is it measured? Looks to me like they mean people capable of rational thought.
Funny you should ask. . .

What Is Emotional Intelligence?

Emotional intelligence refers to the ability to identify and manage one’s own emotions, as well as the emotions of others.

Emotional intelligence is generally said to include at least three skills: emotional awareness, or the ability to identify and name one’s own emotions; the ability to harness those emotions and apply them to tasks like thinking and problem solving; and the ability to manage emotions, which includes both regulating one’s own emotions when necessary and helping others to do the same.

There is no validated psychometric test or scale for emotional intelligence as there is for "g," the general intelligence factor—and many argue that emotional intelligence is therefore not an actual construct, but a way of describing interpersonal skills that go by other names.

Despite this criticism, the concept of emotional intelligence—sometimes referred to as emotional quotient or EQ—has gained wide acceptance. In recent years, some employers have even incorporated emotional intelligence tests into their application and interview processes, on the theory that someone high in emotional intelligence would make a better leader or coworker.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/emotional-intelligence
 

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You agree, then, that this "study" is bs as it "nullifies" itself by using "the right".


I didn't say that.


I said you nullified your comment because you used 'the left', as if everyone in the left acts or thinks or feels like you stated.


I also said it's the same when anything "the left" says when they say "the right".


This study though is just that, a study, and while yes people could be biased, that would invalidate the study, thus the researchers have to be neutral about the subject at hand.


I'm also wondering if you read it - or understood it - because at the end of the article the study authors specifically say that people need caution interpreting the results.

In which case, all that does is to say using the article to dismiss right wingers for their beliefs is not exactly smart... in a nutshell.
 

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Funny you should ask. . .

What Is Emotional Intelligence?

Emotional intelligence refers to the ability to identify and manage one’s own emotions, as well as the emotions of others.

Emotional intelligence is generally said to include at least three skills: emotional awareness, or the ability to identify and name one’s own emotions; the ability to harness those emotions and apply them to tasks like thinking and problem solving; and the ability to manage emotions, which includes both regulating one’s own emotions when necessary and helping others to do the same.

There is no validated psychometric test or scale for emotional intelligence as there is for "g," the general intelligence factor—and many argue that emotional intelligence is therefore not an actual construct, but a way of describing interpersonal skills that go by other names.

Despite this criticism, the concept of emotional intelligence—sometimes referred to as emotional quotient or EQ—has gained wide acceptance. In recent years, some employers have even incorporated emotional intelligence tests into their application and interview processes, on the theory that someone high in emotional intelligence would make a better leader or coworker.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/emotional-intelligence


I've heard about emotional stuff being included on applications for work; that's kind of scary, IMO.
 

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I've heard about emotional stuff being included on applications for work; that's kind of scary, IMO.
Not really,it is quite common for management. I have just never heard it referred to as Emotional intelligence. Some places they even make prospective managers talk to a shrink. The idea is they want to weed out anyone that will fall apart at the first bit of stress. Not sure how effective it is but I guess if a person wants the job bad enough they will submit to it.
 

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Aaannndddd... you absolutely nullified your argument with "the left".
Aaaaanndddd....no I didn't. Every time this kind of pseudo-intellectual bullshit gets posted it's from a die-hard leftist.


About as equal to anything "The left" says when they say "The right".
Except I'm not a right-winger. Well, maybe by today's widely moved goal posts standards I am but I don't give a f*ck in that regard. I'm a Centrist and always have been.


But question, you said "When you let 'feelings' supersede logic and rational thought - what happens when it's those who have right wing aligned political beliefs that act on this? Are they no longer right wing or worthy supporters of those causes, but instead unintelligent people who should just be ignored?
Yep. Now you're getting it.
 

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Aaaaanndddd....no I didn't. Every time this kind of pseudo-intellectual bullshit gets posted it's from a die-hard leftist.


As opposed to the junk the 'die hard rightwing' post here?


Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's pseudo-intellectual BS, either.



Except I'm not a right-winger. Well, maybe by today's widely moved goal posts standards I am but I don't give a f*ck in that regard. I'm a Centrist and always have been.


Never said you were right wing, but you are one giant azzhole and not what is normally considered centrist, either.



Yep. Now you're getting it.


Got it for a while, thanks.
 

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I've heard about emotional stuff being included on applications for work; that's kind of scary, IMO.
I question whether one can test for qualities as elusive and poorly defined as "leadership" and in this case "asshole-ism," but they should be able to work out ways to get at least a ballpark measurement.
 

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You can test for leadership qualities, or perhaps easier the lack of them. In industrial settings it is probably easier since all you really have to do is look at who looks for solutions to problems that arise and who sits back and waits to be told what to do. A good leader is one that is prepared to listen and change direcion when things are not working. AN azzhole just keeps plunging ahead making things worse. Not sure if the same criteria could be applied in government or academic settings.