Saudi's Threaten USA Over 9/11 Info Being Released

[Danbones]

Lets see:
How many OTHER countries have been accused of doing 911, and then completely trashed, and then, whoa! what do you know?
They had nothing to do with it.
The sauds may have been part if the deal, maybe enough to be also similarly escapegoated, but they sure didn't steal the Trillions being investigated by those accountants in the hole in the pentagon, or have evidence from the same and similar investigations in the UNHIT building seven, and they certainly aren't the ones who stood down the defenses on that day, or send the dancing israelis to that gig in a truck full of explosives residue, to film it, and celebrate.

This is just another red herring

 

[Remington1]

I have no doubt whatsoever that Obama has told them to go right ahead. No conspiracy theory ever made any sense. In these cases, the simpler version is always the truth. The guilty are guilty and no amount of trying to blame the victims ever works, at least not for people with a IQ higher than 60. It's the same as when US haters say that the US is in the Middle East to steal oil!! seriously, the Saudis are not that dumb, for every gallon of oil they sell the US, they get more than fair payment in arms and military equipment, same as Canadians do, but they are not accused for some reason. What do we get in exchange, billions.

 

[Ludlow]

we takes ze munee~ the big lewbowski

 

[Locutus]

In a rare show of bipartisanship, President Obama and top Republicans in Congress have come together to shield Americans from knowing the truth about who was behind the 9/11 terror attacks, which took the lives of 2996 people in 2001. However strange it is for neoconservative members of Congress to agree with Obama on anything, there is no doubt the issue must be serious if it warrants this level of partnership.

The issue at hand is the classified, 28-page section of the 9/11 commission report, which many experts and politicians with knowledge of the documents have said point to Saudi Arabian government officials’ direct role in the terror attacks. This is why the Saudis put out a stern warning several days ago threatening to dump up to $750 billion in U.S. assets if Senate Bill 2040 becomes law; S.B. 2040 would make public the 28 pages and also allow for victims of 9/11 to sue foreign governments found responsible.

The Saudis’ warning seems to have worked, with Obama now in the nation to “mend ties” with the monarchy and top Republicans sounding the alarm about the 9/11 bill. In an interview with Charlie Rose, President Obama claimed:

“If we open up the possibility that individuals in the United States can routinely start suing other governments, then we are also opening up the United States to being continually sued by individuals in other countries,” apparently referencing the U.S.’ own attacks overseas that have taken the lives of countless civilians.
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Currently, Saudi Arabia enjoys “sovereign immunity” with the U.S., meaning even if the 28 pages proved Saudi officials were indeed behind the 9/11 attacks, Americans would not be able to seek justice for their losses. The new 9/11 bill would change that, and the Saudi response to the legislation moving through Congress reinforces suspicions the kingdom is somehow behind the 9/11 attacks

Why US Government And Saudi Arabia Don't Want Americans Knowing The Truth About 9/11 | Zero Hedge

 

[tay]

Lets see:
How many OTHER countries have been accused of doing 911, and then completely trashed, and then, whoa! what do you know?
They had nothing to do with it.
The sauds may have been part if the deal, maybe enough to be also similarly escapegoated, but they sure didn't steal the Trillions being investigated by those accountants in the hole in the pentagon, or have evidence from the same and similar investigations in the UNHIT building seven, and they certainly aren't the ones who stood down the defenses on that day, or send the dancing israelis to that gig in a truck full of explosives residue, to film it, and celebrate.

This is just another red herring

"How many OTHER countries have been accused of doing 911."


I'm going to say......let me think about it for a minute........okay, One. Iceland......


President Barack Obama flew to Saudi Arabia this past week but its ruler, King Salman, was too busy to greet him at Riyadh’s airport.

This snub was seen across the Arab world as a huge insult and violation of traditional desert hospitality. Obama should have refused to deplane and flown home.

Alas, he did not. Obama went to kow-tow to the new Saudi monarch and his hot-headed son, Crown Prince Muhammed bin Nayef. They are furious that Obama has refused to attack Iran, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Syria’s Assad regime.

They are also angry as hornets that the US may allow relatives of 9/11 victims to sue the Saudi royal family, which is widely suspected of being involved in the attack.

The Saudis, who are also petrified of Iran, threw a fit, threatening to pull $750 billion of investments from the US. Other leaders of the Gulf sheikdoms sided with the Saudis but rather more discreetly.

Ignoring the stinging snub he had just suffered, Obama assured the Saudis and Gulf monarchs that the US would defend them against all military threats – in effect, reasserting their role as western protectorates. So much for promoting democracy.

Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have been de facto US-British-French protectorates since the end of World War II. They sell the western powers oil at rock bottom prices and buy fabulous amounts of arms from these powers in exchange for the west protecting the ruling families.

As Libya’s late Muammar Kadaffi once told me, “the Saudis and Gulf emirates are very rich families paying the west for protection and living behind high walls.”

Kadaffi’s overthrow and murder was aided by the western powers, notably France, and the oil sheiks. Kadaffi constantly denounced the Saudis and their Gulf neighbors as robbers, traitors to the Arab cause, and puppets of the west.

Many Arabs and Iranians agreed with Kadaffi. While Islam commands all Muslims to share their wealth with the needy and aid fellow Muslims in distress, the Saudis spent untold billions in casinos, palaces and European hookers while millions of Muslims starved. The Saudis spent even more billions for western high-tech arms they cannot use.

During the dreadful war in Bosnia, 1992-1995, the Saudis, who arrogate to themselves the title of ‘Defenders of Islam” and its holy places, averted their eyes as hundreds of thousands of Bosnians were massacred, raped, driven from their homes by Serbs, and mosques blown up.

The Saudi dynasty has clung to power through lavish social spending and cutting off the heads of dissidents, who are routinely framed with charges of drug dealing. The Saudis have one of the world’s worst human rights records.

Saudi’s royals are afraid of their own military, so keep it feeble and inept aside from the air force. They rely on the National Guard, a Bedouin tribal forces also known as the White Army. In the past, Pakistan was paid to keep 40,000 troops in Saudi to protect the royal family. These soldiers are long gone, but the Saudis are pressing impoverished Pakistan to return its military contingent.

The US-backed and supplied Saudi war against dirt-poor Yemen has shown its military to be incompetent and heedless of civilian casualties. The Saudis run the risk of becoming stuck in a protracted guerilla war in Yemen’s wild mountains.

The US, Britain and France maintain discreet military bases in the kingdom and Gulf coast. The US Fifth Fleet is based in Bahrain, where a pro-democracy uprising was recently crushed by rented Pakistani police and troops. Reports say 30,000 Pakistani troops may be stationed in Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

Earlier this month, the Saudis and Egypt’s military junta announced they would build a bridge across the narrow Strait of Tiran (leading to the Red Sea) to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. The clear purpose of a large bridge in this remote, desolate region is to facilitate the passage of Egyptian troops and armor into Saudi Arabia to protect the Saudis. Egypt now relies on Saudi cash to stay afloat.

But Saudi Arabia’s seemingly endless supply of money is now threatened by the precipitous drop in world oil prices. Riyadh just announced it will seek $10 billion in loans from abroad to offset a budget shortfall. This is unprecedented and leads many to wonder if the days of free-spending Saudis are over. Add rumors of a bitter power-struggle in the 6,000-member royal family and growing internal dissent and uber-reactionary Saudi Arabia may become the Mideast’s newest hotspot.

DEFENDING DEMOCRACY TO THE LAST DROP OF OIL « Eric Margolis

 

[justfred99]

Let's imagine that selling treasury to other country's is not unlike them actually owning us and having a huge financial leverage in controlling what we do.

Almost one Trillon worth of treasuries held by a enemy state who wishes to harm you. Imagine that.

Imagine the drop in value the American currency would take?

Flood the treasury market with one trillion dollars worth of American treasury bonds. Let's find out.

Do we understand why there is so much money owed to the Saudies. It is because the USA over spends so much every day, and at the same time are allowed to do so, by the foreign companies investing in the us dollar. Let the US hit the debt wall and then see what happens to the economy and the value of the US dollar.

 

[Angstrom]

Do we understand why there is so much money owed to the Saudies. It is because the USA over spends so much every day, and at the same time are allowed to do so, by the foreign companies investing in the us dollar. Let the US hit the debt wall and then see what happens to the economy and the value of the US dollar.

It's because we buy more oil from them then things they buy from us. It's called a trade deficit. The same that we got with China.

It's why we wanted to become energy independent, and made so much effort to develop our own energy sector.

Creating the recent drop in oil price to try and kill our energy sector by the Saud.

Is like Saudi's trying to make us dependent on their oil again.

 

[Dixie Cup]

Wow! We're in deep doo doo!

 

[Angstrom]

Wow! We're in deep doo doo!

Harper was right about "ethical oil"

 

[Danbones]

"How many OTHER countries have been accused of doing 911."


I'm going to say......let me think about it for a minute........okay, One. Iceland......

one of the few not accused you mean?

Many seem to miss the US led the slaughters in iraq and afghanistan...not to mention Libya and Syria?
Tv watchers...oh well...

...and that little country whose nationals run that singular security company that let through those terrorists at 911, and the ones at seven seven seven, and others...the shoe bomber...etc.

You know, the country where the famous dancers that worked for a known spy agency whose motto is "through deception thou shall create war" who where shunted home without being tortured and the guilty country bombed into oblivion.

It's why we wanted to become energy independent, and made so much effort to develop our own energy sector.
...Creating the recent drop in oil price to try and kill our energy sector by the Saud.

Yes, Obomba funded the duds like solyndra, trashed the relatively clean coal industry, and allowed the useless and deadly quake producing, and aquifer killing, Frakking industry in order to put the US in dependant see?.

 

[WLDB]

The time has come to put the Saudi's in their place here is a case where we
should help democracy groups and topple the government there period

I agree but I doubt any government is going to lift a finger to encourage that sort of thing.

 

[MHz]

The US just tapped Iran for $2B in 'damages' from an event that is 3 decades older than 9/11. With Saudi going into the hole next year it would be wise to seize cash while it is still there.

 

[tay]

one of the few not accused you mean?

Many seem to miss the US led the slaughters in iraq and afghanistan...not to mention Libya and Syria?
Tv watchers...oh well...

...and that little country whose nationals run that singular security company that let through those terrorists at 911, and the ones at seven seven seven, and others...the shoe bomber...etc.

You know, the country where the famous dancers that worked for a known spy agency whose motto is "through deception thou shall create war" who where shunted home without being tortured and the guilty country bombed into oblivion.


Yes, Obomba funded the duds like solyndra, trashed the relatively clean coal industry, and allowed the useless and deadly quake producing, and aquifer killing, Frakking industry in order to put the US in dependant see?.

Yes well those slaughters started after 9/11 when the when Saddam was toppled and the groups Saddam was controlling were set free.


As for the rest of your response I can't comment because I don't know what you're saying unless you are suggesting the Saudi's are protecting someone else.......

 

[tay]

I'm going to guess that this info doesn't say that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11........


Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

The administration, which argues that the legislation would put Americans at legal risk overseas, has been lobbying so intently against the bill that some lawmakers and families of Sept. 11 victims are infuriated. In their view, the Obama administration has consistently sided with the kingdom and has thwarted their efforts to learn what they believe to be the truth about the role some Saudi officials played in the terrorist plot.

“It’s stunning to think that our government would back the Saudis over its own citizens,” said Mindy Kleinberg, whose husband died in the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 and who is part of a group of victims’ family members pushing for the legislation.

Continue reading the main story

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President Obama on Friday vetoed legislation that would allow families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia over its alleged ties to the terrorists who carried out the attacks.

Congressional leaders plan to hold override votes in the coming days and supporters of the legislation say they are confident they can succeed in overturning the president’s action. It would be the first time during Obama’s presidency that Congress has overridden a veto.

But a group of families of 9/11 victims who have been advocating for the bill said in a statement Friday that they were “outraged and dismayed at the president’s veto,” rejecting “the unconvincing and unsupportable reasons that he offers as explanation.”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-911-bill-veto-is-coming-down-to-the-buzzer/

 

[Jinentonix]

This is kind of funny in the sense that the Saudis are pulling the same crap that Obama pulled on us when he demanded that our banks hand over the financial information of arbitrarily declared US citizens.
What's not amusing is how the 9/11 victims are once again being screwed over by their supposed leaders.

 

[coldstream]

This is all part of plot by greasy, parasitic U.S. lawyers to tap into Saudi's immense U.S. assets. The families of victims of 9/11 were compensated to tune of millions of dollars each to forego liability claims.

But the lawyers smell the opportunity to play on the ignorance and indignance of jury pools to make themselves filthy rich by keeping a third of any awards from defendants (a foreign government) that have traditionally been beyond American civil jurisdiction.

It would open the door for all kinds of lawsuits targetting of American assets abroad in compensation for their own misadventures around the globe.

 

[gerryh]

It would open the door for all kinds of lawsuits targetting of American assets abroad in compensation for their own misadventures around the globe.

Good, accountability is always a good thing.

 

[tay]

This is all part of plot by greasy, parasitic U.S. lawyers to tap into Saudi's immense U.S. assets. The families of victims of 9/11 were compensated to tune of millions of dollars each to forego liability claims.

But the lawyers smell the opportunity to play on the ignorance and indignance of jury pools to make themselves filthy rich by keeping a third of any awards from defendants (a foreign government) that have traditionally been beyond American civil jurisdiction.

It would open the door for all kinds of lawsuits targetting of American assets abroad in compensation for their own misadventures around the globe.

Are you working as a PR person for the Obama Admin now?

I can see why Obama want's this vetoed when we consider his push for the TPP. Consider the following comments from your associate

For us, the 9/11 families and survivors, all we are asking for is an opportunity to have our case heard in a courtroom. Denying us justice is un-American.”

The administration argues this could set a dangerous precedent, whereby American companies or government representatives abroad could be brought to court.

“We believe this is a bad bill,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

The override vote is expected in the coming days, the Washington Post reported, but doubts over the legislation from people like Ryan is leading the bill’s opponents to make a final push against the veto.

https://thinkprogress.org/obama-overturn-veto-d6e669d6cbf2#.477i7jxtx

 

[Ludlow]

Ah piss on those towel heads I say just waltz on over there and knuckle up some noggins.

 

[MHz]

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