Russia's first gay pride parade turns violent

[Jay]

It's not fine to beat people up, at least not in Canada it isn't.

I must admit though, that I don't understand the "gay parades"...It is one thing to be gay, but to dedicate parades to your sexual orientation is something I don't understand. I can appreciate if there is a city parade or something and the "Rainbow Club" enters a float or two. Maybe someone here can enlighten me a bit?

 

[missile]

JMO,but the Gay Parades are nothing more than another form of advertising.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

In a way, I imagine, "Pride Parades" ARE indeed a form of advertising, but in my view a necessary one- as Cosmo points out, there are still plenty of people who think certain ways and just don't say it- granted, there will always be this type of person, but the more folks like myself who do not want to hear it and will actively dispute bigoted statements from people, the better

I have nothing against displays such as "pride Parades" but I hope that some day in the distant future they can go the wayof suffrage marches, a sort of "remember when people were so intolerant that they gay people actually had to assert their right to exist" but until that time comes, the parades are an important re-affirmation of what is still a much maligned reality for many people

And Jay- do you seriously think North America has the monopoly on right-wing types?? Do you still believe the ancient CRAP about the russians being godless commies?? (if you do, there's some stuff to disprove THAT notion at least in the very article at the beginning of this topic)
maybe I am beginning to understand your apparent socio-political myopia

 

[Jay]

I wouldn't worry about my "myopia" if I were you.

 

[tracy]

I find it sad that people still care about this. As long as it isn't compulsory, why should anyone care a lick about homosexuality? I live in the nicest neighbourhood in my city, which of course means it is largely a gay neighbourhood, and I have never had a problem with not being accepted because I'm straight. I don't see why gay people should be any less welcome among heteros.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

Jay- LOL I actuallyhave to make a doctors appointment for a prescription, thanks for the reminder

And to Tracy( and I guess potential others) I was not saying anything negative and hope I did not come across that way- I fully look forward to a time when everywhere is like where you live, where folks don't "give a lick" about such personal things as the sexuality of others, which is about as important to me as what my neighbors eat, or watch on television

I can be really hard to understand sometimes, but in my defence it all makes sense to me at least, I really hope I was not misunderstood

 

[Sheen]

Re: Gay Rights in Russia

I would think, Sheen, that the point of this matter is that it should not be a prohibited state to be a gay or a lesbian; to that end, one's rights and freedoms in a nation should not be restricted due to the forementioned.

Ok, a little example first. I know gay who was married before, then got divorced, then become a gay. I wonder, is he a real gay? Or this is only a defense from being tortured again? So let us try to find out a root of this problem. My understanding that increasing number of gays and lesbians is connected to increased number of divorces sometimes ago. A child grown with one parent, usually with the mother, has no example of an opposite sex behavior. As a result no normal relationships are possible when that child became mature. They try to find others who have the same live view. Yes, everybody has a right to get divorced. But is it a big social achievement? Is it kind of freedom that worth to fight for?

 

[Toro]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

Well Sheen

You would be wrong.

 

[FiveParadox]

RE: My Own Gayness

Sheen, I have both a mother and a father, who continue to be very much in love. And nonetheless, despite having these role models of the "traditional" family, I turned out to be gay. Neither of them have ever been divorced, and yet nonetheless your theory appears inapplicable to my situation.

 

[Cosmo]

Re: RE: Russia's first gay pride parade turns violent

It's not fine to beat people up, at least not in Canada it isn't.

I must admit though, that I don't understand the "gay parades"...It is one thing to be gay, but to dedicate parades to your sexual orientation is something I don't understand. I can appreciate if there is a city parade or something and the "Rainbow Club" enters a float or two. Maybe someone here can enlighten me a bit?

Why do Veterans have a parade on Remembrance Day? Why is there a Christmas Parade? Why is there a parade for Calgary Stampede or Edmonton Klondike days? /shrug It's all the same stuff. Celebration.

Gays have come a long way in the past half century and have a great deal to be delighted about. I love Pride Week!! There is a sense of community, of celebration, a sense of belonging to a unique clan.

Granted, Jay, it is a bit like having a parade for people with green eyes, but if they had been vilified for a long time and that oppression was lifted, it would be cause to strike up the techno band and have some fun.

I agree, Mabudon, that it's sad that we are in a position to have to be glad of freedoms gained. It would be far more preferable to have gay folks accepted all along, but it ain't so. I will be glad when Pride Week is redundant from a social perspective, but I'll always enjoy it from a cultural view.

Sheen ... I almost didn't dignify your comments with a reply, but decided I may be able to offer a bit of education. I, too, was married when I was 19. Being gay isn't always the easiest thing in the world. I figured that if I got hitched, all those feelings would just go away. Doesn't happen like that.

Perhaps homosexuality does have an affect on the divorce rate, but if it does, the affect is minor. The vast majority of people who get divorced hook up with the same gender they left. /shrug

 

[Toro]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

My wife, who was my fiance at the time, and I wandered into a Gay Pride parade by pure accident. We were looking for churches to possibly get married in Toronto - you know, on Church St - and saw a big gathering many blocks up the street. So we drove to see what was going on, got out of the car, and wandered around. It certainly was interesting. We also accidently stumbled into Fantasy Fest in Key West several years ago, which might as well be a Gay Pride parade.

 

[Cosmo]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

:lol: Might be a bit disconcerting if you didn't know what you were getting into! Pride is so much fun, though. It's like Mardi Gras without the Zydeco music.

 

[Toro]

RE: Russia's first gay pr

Not at all Cosmo. I thought it was neat.

I used to live at the foot of Burrard Bridge in the West End just off Davie Street in my early 20s. So whatever prejudices I had disappeared after guys made a passes at me for about the 20th time.

Not only that, but my real name is also the name of a gay porno star! I found that out when I googled myself. (Yeah, yeah, cut with the jokes.) I have wondered if any of my old high school friends did the same, then thought "Yeah, I always figured that about that guy."

 

[Risus]

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Please refrain from making any comments that are in any way degrading to an individual or group of individuals.

Zan

 

[missile]

Yeah! And you haven't any fetishes or little quirks yourself ,I bet

 

[FiveParadox]

Welcome to CC.net!

Bienvenue à Canadian Content, Risus.

I can see that we are not going to be the best of friends on these forums. Nonetheless, if you ever need anything, if you ever need something, you can contact me through one of the contact methods on my profile; or, you can contact one of the Administrators or Moderators should you have any questions, comments or concerns.

 

[missile]

I've never had any problem supporting gay parades,but, when they suggested putting a non traditional float into our annual Christmas Parade..thought that was just wrong. Still,if it had happened; the resulting furor would have been amusing :lol:

 

[Risus]

Re: RE: Russia's first gay pride parade turns violent

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Please refrain from making any comments that are in any way degrading to an individual or group of individuals.

Zan

My post that gays are perverts was not a degrading comment, it was a fact, just like child molesters are perverts: another fact. There is nothing natural about homosexuals, therefore it is un-natural and ergo a perversion.

 

[Risus]

Yeah! And you haven't any fetishes or little quirks yourself ,I bet

You are correct, give yourself a cigar!

 

[Risus]

Re: Welcome to CC.net!

Bienvenue à Canadian Content, Risus.

I can see that we are not going to be the best of friends on these forums. Nonetheless, if you ever need anything, if you ever need something, you can contact me through one of the contact methods on my profile; or, you can contact one of the Administrators or Moderators should you have any questions, comments or concerns.

I thought there was a certain thing called 'freedom of speech'. If censorship reigns here, I'm gone!