Russians Indicted for Defrauding the US

[mentalfloss]

Mueller Indicts Russian Groups

In the fall of 2017, The Daily Beast published a series of exposés revealing that the Kremlin’s online propagandists had digitally impersonated American advocacy groups and executed real-world rallies in support of Donald Trump on American soil. On Friday, Special counsel Robert Mueller revealed his indictment of Russian companies and individuals on charges that they defrauded the United States, committed bank fraud, and stole Americans’ identities. That indictment recaps many of the activities first revealed by The Beast. The Russian trolls organized a series of pro-Trump rallies staged throughout the state of Florida; they set up an ersatz anti-immigration group, Secured Borders, which protested against refugees; and they assumed the identity of United Muslims of America, an otherwise benign Muslim advocacy group. “Russia knows no ends and no limits to which groups they would masquerade as to carry out their objectives,” Rep. Eric Swalwell, a Democrat on the House intelligence committee, told The Daily Beast at the time the effort was first revealed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-indicts-russian-groups-first-revealed-by-daily-beast

 

[Walter]

That's it?

 

[mentalfloss]

What's it?

 

[Walter]

I thought Trump was the target, not a bunch of Ruskies.

 

[mentalfloss]

Rod Rosenstein to announce indictments of Russians in U.S. election meddling - live updates
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rod-rosenstein-law-enforcement-announcement-live-stream-updates/

 

[justlooking]

'unwitting'

buying Facebook ads.


Trump should declare war on Russia right now.

 

[Walter]

This means Mueller has found nothing on Trump. What a glorious waste of time and money.

 

[mentalfloss]

Yes that's what this means.

Lay off the doggie treats.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

from another source


The special counsel filed the first charges for 2016 election meddling, accusing 13 Russians of using social media to influence U.S. voters

https://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na&eml_hdr=1&module=manage&nlid=55065696


outside interference at this level does imply that the elections were "tainted" at the very least. The BIAS towards a Trump win renders the results suspect. THAT is what Trump is so afraid of. He does NOT want his win be challenged or questioned. Remember how he kept repeating that he won fiat and square.......as if he was reassuring himself. This win was a big prize for him and his ego. This instigation is one big THREAT to both. Going with the onion layer premise ...... seems this has just begun Each layer will reveal more details.

 

[Walter]

Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html

 

[captain morgan]

I thought Trump was the target, not a bunch of Ruskies.

Looks like the Dems are hellbent on impeaching the Russians

... They deserve it I guess

 

[Hoid]

I thought Trump was the target, not a bunch of Ruskies.

When have you ever gotten anything right?

 

[Murphy]

:laughing3:

She trying to stir the pot. It's still not working.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

this is NOT about collusion.(yet) It is about Russian interference. & meddling Seems they were successful in swaying a lot of people to vote for trump. That makes his "win" suspect. The "collusion" might come via the fact that Trump refuses to even admonish Russia for meddling. He passively defends Russia while questioning his own justice system. and calling any info that paints him in an unfavorable light "fake news"



As stated before. This is a threat to Rump because it puts his win under question. As it should be. regardless of how the media and the Trump regime emphatically that he won fair and square.


Stay tuned for developments as more layers are revealed.......

Does it not seem strange that Trump just will not say anything factually bad about and to the Russians.??? That is so glaringly obvious. That suggests passive compliance.


Interesting comment on CTV.........Russians feel that the Americans are very gullible and can be manipulated. rather easily.

 

[Hoid]

I thought it was all a hoax? Isn't that what President Poop 4 Brains said?

17 indictments now?

More to come.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Yup, a few days prior to the election FBI publicly opens case against Clinton.

Meanwhile Russia spreads "fake news" via Facebook and other social media outlets.

But hey, Russia is the friend of the west.

Interesting how I am the only one here who criticizes Russia or Putin.

Social media is becoming a vulnerability. Russia is a clever & sophisticated bad actor. If they can manipulate peoples minds (American)..... this successfully........ there is a BIG problem

 

[justlooking]

Social media is becoming a vulnerability. Russia is a clever & sophisticated bad actor. If they can manipulate peoples minds (American)..... this successfully........ there is a BIG problem

:lol:

If you are letting Facebook manipulate your mind, you have much bigger problems than you can even imagine.


Muller is spending God knows how many millions for an indictment that will never show any result,
because they are in Russia, for the 2018 equivalent for a couple of prank phone calls.

Meanwhile the FBI gets a tip about a kid getting ready to shoot up a school....... and they drop it.

Too busy with the writers creating the next chapter in the Russia Russia Russia romance novel.

 

[Walter]

this is NOT about collusion.(yet) It is about Russian interference. & meddling Seems they were successful in swaying a lot of people to vote for trump. That makes his "win" suspect.

Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russ...ers-probe.html

 

[mentalfloss]

Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html

Which is irrelevant because we're talking about meddling not collusion.

 

[justlooking]

That is unquantifiable.

The Deputy Attorney general seemed pretty happy to quantify it.

NO RESULT ON THE ELECTION.