Royal Bank not very Canadian

CDNBear

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Ah yes in-sourcing, lay off already trained people and bring in citizens from another country to fill the positions left vacant by the laid off Canadians. Shouldn't we have some laws against that sort of chicanery?
Actually, I believe we do.
 

Sal

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So true, I know one of my tattoo equip suppliers is completely virtual. They don't have a show room, no inventory, they're simply the middle man and more or less a buffer between distributor and customer.

I simply use them because they guarantee my shipment.
It's pretty much the way of the future. Our whole shopping experience is changing and will continue to do so. It will be huge conglomerates and then little local guys. The little locals will survive due to low overhead and community support but the days of semi-large are fading fast.
 

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Ah yes in-sourcing, lay off already trained people and bring in citizens from another country to fill the positions left vacant by the laid off Canadians. Shouldn't we have some laws against that sort of chicanery?

We do! This was ust a thinly veiled attempt at circumventing those laws and now the word is out the same ministry that approved all the temporary work visas is going to investigate the issue. It seems that either Citizenship & Immigration were either complicit in the plan or incompetent in their initial evaluation of the applications. Either way it does not give one any confidence that our govt is adhering to or upholding the laws that they ask us to abide by.
 

Sal

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Either way it does not give one any confidence that our govt is adhering to or upholding the laws that they ask us to abide by.
so just another usual day in the neighbourhood then... until it hits the media.
 

CDNBear

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It seems that either Citizenship & Immigration were either complicit in the plan or incompetent in their initial evaluation of the applications. Either way it does not give one any confidence that our govt is adhering to or upholding the laws that they ask us to abide by.
Not really.

iGate staff are in IT, those being laid off are from regulatory and financial applications.

I can see how that might not raise flags.

I'd wager nothing comes of an investigation, since the two dept's are not related.
 

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so this big humanitarian kick of yours is bogus or at least quite "limited" in its scope...

I also believe in respecting jurisdictional boundaries. And when we consider that free trade generally benefits the poorer country, yes support for free trade can be viewed as humanitarian.

wow you must be one very wealthy guy...good on you, awesome in fact. I think you may be a bit out of touch with the human learning curve...not everyone has an IQ of 120 or above. It's not as simple as you want to make it.
yeah okay.

Not that wealthy. But I could afford to pay a little more in taxes easily enough to provide education to those who need it. You see, I'm not that bad after all, eh.


Oh so now you are against outsourcing? So those poor people at RBC shouldn't just lose their jobs to evil foreigners for RBC profit increases due to outsourcing?

No, not against outsourcing per se. However, I do want the cost of my products to reflect their true cost in non-renewable resources. Raising the cost of such resources woudl do that. Funny how that works, eh. The fact that it would reduce certain types of imports and exports would naturally promote local consumption. That's not my intent, but tht would be a natural consequence of my proposal, which I thoght you'd like.

Also FYI, increasing gas prices will not stop Walmart from outsourcing.

Maybe, maybe not. But it would definitely make distance an increased cost to business, no?
 

Ron in Regina

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It's pretty much the way of the future. Our whole shopping experience is changing and will continue to do so. It will be huge conglomerates and then little local guys. The little locals will survive due to low overhead and community support but the days of semi-large are fading fast.

I dropped a Friend off at work earlier today, and she had her first two
customers before I left. One guy was just there as the other guy tried
on a few different motorcycle helmets 'till he found the fit and brand he
liked.

Then he left to go home and see what that same helmet (Maybe $200
retail in that local shop) could be found for price-wise on-line now that
he knew what brand & size suited him best. In this instance, it doesn't
matter what the little locals overhead is, as it would have to be stuffed
into the retail price that the online virtual outlet wouldn't have, and this
sort'a thing happens often. I wouldn't want to own a shoe store at this
point in time.
 

Liberalman

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I disagree. Why should unskilled Canadians be given a special 'my-sh!t-don't-stink' privilege over someone else begause of an accident of birth?

Yes, I can agree with us paying higher taxes, and generous funding for universal compulsory public education and generous funding for skills training for the unemployed, which would serve as a kind of subsidy ot sorts to help them get back into the workforce. I do not believe in discrimination based on race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, nor even nationality (that last one being perfectly legal in most if not all countries, the last bastion of legal prejudice?).



Also, if we reject illegitimate discrimination based on gender, race, religion, etc., then why nationality?

Being a Canadian Citizen has it's rights and privileges and protections and when the federal government brings in foreign workers so that companies can lay off their present employees so they can pay less than minimum wages as far as I am concerned that government is committing treason.
 

CDNBear

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Being a Canadian Citizen has it's rights and privileges and protections and when the federal government brings in foreign workers so that companies can lay off their present employees so they can pay less than minimum wages as far as I am concerned that government is committing treason.
The Federal gov't did no such thing.

You could at least try and stay ground and within the confines of reality once in a while, there are already enough nutters running around here.

 

Liberalman

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The Federal gov't did no such thing.

You could at least try and stay ground and within the confines of reality once in a while, there are already enough nutters running around here.

Looks like governments are excempt from treason but seems to me that the Conservatives are selling out Canadians because of all their free trade agreements the signed

Criminal Code
PART II

OFFENCES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

Treason and other Offences against the Queen’s Authority and Person

Marginal note:High treason

  • <LI sizset="false" sizcache03034852401246043="5 17 184">46. (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,
    • (a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her;
    • (b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or
    • (c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
  • Marginal note:Treason

    (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
    • (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
    • (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
    • (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
    • (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
    • (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
  • Marginal note:Canadian citizen

    (3) Notwithstanding subsection (1) or (2), a Canadian citizen or a person who owes allegiance to Her Majesty in right of Canada,
    • (a) commits high treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (1); or
    • (b) commits treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (2).
  • Marginal note:Overt act

    (4) Where it is treason to conspire with any person, the act of conspiring is an overt act of treason.
  • R.S., c. C-34, s. 46;
  • 1974-75-76, c. 105, s. 2.
 

CDNBear

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Looks like governments are excempt from treason but seems to me that the Conservatives are selling out Canadians because of all their free trade agreements the signed

Criminal Code
PART II

OFFENCES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

Treason and other Offences against the Queen’s Authority and Person

Marginal note:High treason

  • <LI sizset="false" sizcache03034852401246043="5 17 184">46. (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,
    • (a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her;
    • (b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or
    • (c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
  • Marginal note:Treason

    (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
    • (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
    • (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
    • (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
    • (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
    • (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
  • Marginal note:Canadian citizen

    (3) Notwithstanding subsection (1) or (2), a Canadian citizen or a person who owes allegiance to Her Majesty in right of Canada,
    • (a) commits high treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (1); or
    • (b) commits treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (2).
  • Marginal note:Overt act

    (4) Where it is treason to conspire with any person, the act of conspiring is an overt act of treason.

  • R.S., c. C-34, s. 46;
  • 1974-75-76, c. 105, s. 2.
That bears no weight in supporting the nuttery contained in your previous post, nor does it contain anything that the present gov't is guilty of.

Maybe you and PNhead should get together and start a group session so you can get past your paranoid delusions.
 

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If you lose your job I'll pay for your skills training. Deal?

I'm a consultant Machjo; so each time I succeed, I come to an end of the contract, essentially, I 'lose' my job a few times a year

That said, I think that I would be suitable for skills training in the niche area of beer drinkin' at the nudie bar... The course is quite extensive and regrettably, pretty expensive with all the beer and a lot of money in five dollar bills for tucking into the g-string of the performers.

... When can I expect to receive the re-training funds?