Rich and Poor Gap widdening : NDP
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September 1, 2004 2% $77,520
September 1, 2005 2% $79,070
September 1, 2006 2% $80,652
February 1, 2007 1% $81,458
September 1, 2007 1.8% $82,925
February 1, 2008 1.4% $84,090
http://www.osstf.on.ca/www/services/protective/bulletins/teachers/11_0408.html
edited because I found the info.
September 1, 2005 2% $79,070
September 1, 2006 2% $80,652
February 1, 2007 1% $81,458
September 1, 2007 1.8% $82,925
February 1, 2008 1.4% $84,090
http://www.osstf.on.ca/www/services/protective/bulletins/teachers/11_0408.html
edited because I found the info.
Re: RE: Rich and Poor Gap widdening : NDP
Two different things.
Taxes effect behavior. To suggest otherwise is, of course, ridiculous. What is less clear how much taxes and in what circumstances.
To me, and many other Canadians who are in America, whether or not we move back to Canada is a marginal argument, using the true economic definition of "marginal". Some who moved to America - like my blue collar neighbors across the street from Ontario - figured they couldn't get ahead in Canada. Others, like myself, were more than happy to stay but couldn't find the opportunities in our chosen professions. So we left. But now that we're down here, when we do the math, we're not sure if its worth coming back.
That is a separate issue as you are making an absolute argument.
In the context of tax structure in today's West, there is no evidence that wealthy are not getting wealthier. In fact, its just the opposite.
But that doesn't mean that, at some point, if taxes were raised to some level, savings would not flow out of a country. Capital flight caused by, amongst other reasons, high taxes has occurred in the past in industrialized nations such as the UK and New Zealand, but has been more prevelent in emerging countries such as Latin America, Asia, etc., especially where there has been Marxist and communist upheavals.
BitWhys said:
Two different things.
Taxes effect behavior. To suggest otherwise is, of course, ridiculous. What is less clear how much taxes and in what circumstances.
To me, and many other Canadians who are in America, whether or not we move back to Canada is a marginal argument, using the true economic definition of "marginal". Some who moved to America - like my blue collar neighbors across the street from Ontario - figured they couldn't get ahead in Canada. Others, like myself, were more than happy to stay but couldn't find the opportunities in our chosen professions. So we left. But now that we're down here, when we do the math, we're not sure if its worth coming back.
That is a separate issue as you are making an absolute argument.
BitWhys said:
In the context of tax structure in today's West, there is no evidence that wealthy are not getting wealthier. In fact, its just the opposite.
But that doesn't mean that, at some point, if taxes were raised to some level, savings would not flow out of a country. Capital flight caused by, amongst other reasons, high taxes has occurred in the past in industrialized nations such as the UK and New Zealand, but has been more prevelent in emerging countries such as Latin America, Asia, etc., especially where there has been Marxist and communist upheavals.
Re: RE: Rich and Poor Gap widdening : NDP
Oh, that's right. I forgot.
Its all about you!
But then again, what can one expect from someone who, while arguing that he is spot on, can't even get John Ralston Saul correct!
:lol: :lol:
BitWhys said:
Oh, that's right. I forgot.
Its all about you!
But then again, what can one expect from someone who, while arguing that he is spot on, can't even get John Ralston Saul correct!
:lol: :lol:
Re: RE: Rich and Poor Gap widdening : NDP
Who dat?
(A Karra-ism!)
Jay said:I don't think Bit likes us anymore, Toro.....
Who dat?
(A Karra-ism!)
Re: RE: Rich and Poor Gap widdening : NDP
And you didn't even have to use your sheep theory this time.
Jay said:I don't think Bit likes us anymore, Toro.....
And you didn't even have to use your sheep theory this time.
I forgot about the sheep theory. That was a tour de
force.
Please resurrect it on a new thread entitled
sheep theory.
It's worth an encore presentation.
force.
Please resurrect it on a new thread entitled
sheep theory.
It's worth an encore presentation.