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You do see the difference between a spanking and the possibility of eternal suffering.? Even then some humans never learn from being punished but become even more badly behaved.Back in the day if we were told not to touch there was no problem because if we did it once, we would never even think about doing it a second time. Disobedience was a primary sin with life threatening consequences.
We were meant to remain stupid and blindly obey (according to the bible) However, the first couple ate of the tree of knowledge. They were supposedly thrown out of Eden for that offense and until Jesus came along, humanity had no way to redeem their status. Seems a bit over the top in my opinion.
But hey if that is your belief, fine. I do not accept the bible to be anything more than a story composed to explain the human story to very primitive people.
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If the decline in America is attributed to its decaying spirituality............then how do you explain very spiritual places that never were great?
If the decline in America is attributed to its decaying spirituality............then how do you explain very spiritual places that never were great?
Many in academia are now listing religion as a mental disorder
The problem with most of us is we are collectively crazy
Who was it Lenin who said religion was opium for the mind.
I have no problem with people believing in God I do have a
problem when some start talking in tongues and rolling around
on the floor that is just weird
The problem with most of us is we are collectively crazy
Who was it Lenin who said religion was opium for the mind.
I have no problem with people believing in God I do have a
problem when some start talking in tongues and rolling around
on the floor that is just weird
Perhaps it has to do with teaching and learning moral responsibility. Religion in the beginning served that purpose. However, over time, it seems that too many teachers and rulers become aware of how easy it was to bend society to their will. Most religions use punishment and rewards of a type chosen when humanity was still very barbaric. As we were learning religion, we were also learning empathy. That is still the main reason so many human societal groups are turning away from organized religions. We feel regret, love, friendship, etc., so it becomes impossible to imagine a supreme being feeling anything less.
There is a synchronicity, and a connectivity in life that cannot be accounted for using 50/50 odds. There is always change, in individual beliefs just as there is in all else in this reality.
Perhaps the perception that America is decaying spiritually is because barbaric religious beliefs are being clung to more than elsewhere. The eye for an eye notion is definitely revenge rather than morally right.
There is a synchronicity, and a connectivity in life that cannot be accounted for using 50/50 odds. There is always change, in individual beliefs just as there is in all else in this reality.
Perhaps the perception that America is decaying spiritually is because barbaric religious beliefs are being clung to more than elsewhere. The eye for an eye notion is definitely revenge rather than morally right.
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Did it? How do you know?
Was?
Which, I guess, explains why said supreme being will torture you for all eternity if you jerk off. Because of regret, love, friendship and all.
religion (n.)
Anglo-French religiun: "state of life bound by monastic vows"; "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power"
Old French religion: "piety, devotion; religious community"
Latin religionem: "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods; conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation; fear of the gods; divine service, religious observance; a religion, a faith, a mode of worship, cult; sanctity, holiness"; "monastic life"
relegere (Cicero): "go through again" (in reading or in thought)
religare (Servius, Lactantius, Augustine): "to bind fast"; "place an obligation on"; "bond between humans and gods"
religiens (unspecified origin): "careful"
English religion: "particular system of faith"; "recognition of and allegiance in manner of life (perceived as justly due) to a higher, unseen power or powers"
Online Etymology Dictionary
The etymology of the term religion above illustrates how its meaning has evolved and expanded over time. From lifestyle to conduct, respect to worship, observance to service, and devotion to obligation, the term religion includes varying degrees of doctrinal and practical allegiance to a higher power. The absence of religion then would seem to indicate such allegiance to self.
"To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name." [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]
Online Etymology Dictionary
Religion means different things to different people. Righteousness is another matter.
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LOL. How do I know?? Most religions tell me so . Now how do you know a supreme being will torture us for eternity for jerking off etc......I bet that came from the same source!!
Moto You bet the meaning of words change, righteousness, piety, are but a few. All those dictionaries refer to gods, but two of the biggest religions these days talk about a single entity. Even the word itself, "religion" evokes images of child molestation, homosexuality, even money grubbing in many people. Religions over the centuries have stripped people of their freedom, homes, money, and their lives. At least very few sun worshipers believe it is a god these days.
As far as Popes go, the present one may restore the Catholic faith somewhat.
LOL. How do I know?? Most religions tell me so . Now how do you know a supreme being will torture us for eternity for jerking off etc......I bet that came from the same source!!
Moto You bet the meaning of words change, righteousness, piety, are but a few. All those dictionaries refer to gods, but two of the biggest religions these days talk about a single entity. Even the word itself, "religion" evokes images of child molestation, homosexuality, even money grubbing in many people. Religions over the centuries have stripped people of their freedom, homes, money, and their lives. At least very few sun worshipers believe it is a god these days.
As far as Popes go, the present one may restore the Catholic faith somewhat.
In the OP, BB, does the messenger invoke righteousness or religion? What is the difference?
Religion, is acceptance of a set series of beliefs as ones own. Righteousness is the assumption that by following the set series of beliefs to the letter, makes one certain of perfection of spirit, thereby obliging he/she to impress correct thinking on others.
My belief is uniquely my own and my feeling is that the biggest sin one can commit is to actively impose my thinking on another. So, for me it is about how each piece of information that comes my way fits into my experiences, and whether or not it fits in with everything I have learned or experienced to that point. There are many sayings that strike me as right....ie. Each person/soul does have a purpose and life is about discovering & fulfilling it. It may be that this life is a reward for some. The successful life depends on how satisfied one is with it at the end.
My belief is uniquely my own and my feeling is that the biggest sin one can commit is to actively impose my thinking on another. So, for me it is about how each piece of information that comes my way fits into my experiences, and whether or not it fits in with everything I have learned or experienced to that point. There are many sayings that strike me as right....ie. Each person/soul does have a purpose and life is about discovering & fulfilling it. It may be that this life is a reward for some. The successful life depends on how satisfied one is with it at the end.
In the NIV Bible, BB, the adjective religious occurs 6 times: "Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless." (James 1:26 NIV)
The descriptor righteous occurs 493 times: "For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.” (Romans 1:17 NIV)
Biblically-speaking, religious performance stems from self-deception, while righteous faith derives from divine revelation.
How does one know the difference between divine revelation from knowledge gained through meditation, dreams or an inner knowing which proves accurate. How does one know exactly what the source of any revelation is?? Everyone has had this experience. Some such revelations prove to be accurate and others not. Time is very deceptive and luckily we humans are very capricious and change our actions, therefore the results at any time without much thought
Now may I ask why someone would spend all that time counting how many times a word occurs in a book, Surely that time could have been better spent volunteering in helping any charity organization, or even doing something nice for another person.
You can search any Bible keyword or phrase by selecting the following link and typing the word in the search window and selecting a Bible version, BB. No counting and no time at all : )
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=righteous&qs_version=NIV
I was volunteering with the Southwest Idaho Medical Reserve Corps this afternoon at a teen disaster readiness camp when I read your most recent post.
https://www.facebook.com/southwestidmrc
Coincidence? Maybe : )
Oh my word, I never imagined you specifically counted those words. Why would anyone care how many times a particular word was used in any bit of writing.
Meanings and verses containing information fine but what use is there in knowing how many times a word was used?? I did try to see if the site gave how many times the word "THE" was used. LOL. It doesn't go that far.
LOL.....So if someone used the word spit 300 different times and ways it endorses spit???
"If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love." (1 Corinthians 13:1-13 NIV)
Which word/concept is endorsed in the verses above, BB?