RE: Reporter Jailed in US
Since Bush, Cheney, and Rove are all criminals, I guess the answer would be yes, wouldn't it?
Since Bush, Cheney, and Rove are all criminals, I guess the answer would be yes, wouldn't it?
Reporter Jailed in US. :-(
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Re: RE: Reporter Jailed in US. :-(
...or for those who are not of Middle Eastern descent... :roll:
EagleSmack said:
...or for those who are not of Middle Eastern descent... :roll:
Re: RE: Reporter Jailed in US
Well they aren't considered criminals in the US so it makes no difference what your views are.
More on topic and less spin. If a murderer reveals to a journalist his crimes, and the journalist refuses to disclose the murderer, is the reader still derpived of rights?
Reverend Blair said:
Well they aren't considered criminals in the US so it makes no difference what your views are.
More on topic and less spin. If a murderer reveals to a journalist his crimes, and the journalist refuses to disclose the murderer, is the reader still derpived of rights?
Nope! how leaving the country from which they are trying to steal the natural resources from...under the guise of democracy...and get back to going after group they were suppose to be going after bin laden.
They would be if your press was doing its job.
The reporter writes the story. That's their job.
You are talking about an extremely rare circumstance anyway. Most sources that need to protect their identity are talking about somebody else, they are not the perpetrators of the crimes. Most protected sources are either from within government, police forces, the military or large corporations. They are whistle blowers serving a greater public good.
Reverend Blair said:
Really? That's all I hear and read, since I never watch Fox.
Reverend Blair said:
Yes I am talking about extremely rare circumstances. But where does the law draw the line? This isn't about a "whistle blower", this case is about a crime. There is a huge difference. No whistle blower has ever been sent to prison to my knowledge.
Why is it every time somebody gets close to digging up dirt on the Bush administration they end up in jail or dead :?
They aren't even asking about this during White House briefings. Rove is arguably the most powerful man in the US. It looks like he's going down. He will almost certainly end up in court with a lawyer glued to his ear. The White House press corps is ignoring the story though. Why is that?
We don't know if this about a whistle lower actually...there are eight pages missing from the middle of the judgement. They've been redacted for reasons of national security, or possibly because they are just too damned embarrassing to the Bushites. That seems to be the same thing these days.
The more important thing than who is being protected from what is the precedent this sets, ITN.
Chances are that it's Rove that is being protected as the source though. It seems to have been a planned leak. It also seems that Rove broke a law that is extremely hard to break. That doesn't happen by accident. But he is a source and he deserves to be protected.
You likely noticed that I'm not big on protecting the Bush boys though, ITN. Like Joe Wilson, I'd like nothing more than to see Rove frog walked out of the White house with his hands in cuffs. If it further erodes freedom of the press, it should not happen though.
The reality is that if reporters have to reveal Rove, then Woodward and Bernstein would also have had to reveal Deep Throat. No Deep Throat, no Watergate.
There was a reporter here a few years ago who was in similar trouble because he wouldn't reveal his police sources after the cops murdered JJ Harper. All indications are that his source helped to rewrite police notes to protect one of the murderer/cops, although that source has never been named or charged.
If that reporter's right to protect his sources would not have been upheld, we likely wouldn't know about several smaller transgressions that the Winnipeg police have been involved in.
Journalists need to be able to protect sources or nobody will talk to them. That is detrimental to the greater public good and destroys the role of the fourth estate in politics and governance.
I think not said:
So you've accepted then that equating your government with the government of Iran is quite logical and acceptable judgement for us to make...thank you... :roll:
I agree with the Rev., but in this case, the source is actually the person who broke the law. For me, that sort of changes the picture a bit. In fact, it could be tangentially argued that by protecting a source, when the source is committing a felony, the reporter is a accessory, or obstructing justice.
As a result, I am deeply conflicted on this. I do not want to see reporters force to give up confidential informats. But I also don't want to see Karl Rove get away with blatantly and intentionally breaking the law simply to discredit a critic.
My bigger question however is why is Robert Novak not the one going to jail? Why is it that only reporters who chose not to run the story are being coerced to give up their sources?
As a result, I am deeply conflicted on this. I do not want to see reporters force to give up confidential informats. But I also don't want to see Karl Rove get away with blatantly and intentionally breaking the law simply to discredit a critic.
My bigger question however is why is Robert Novak not the one going to jail? Why is it that only reporters who chose not to run the story are being coerced to give up their sources?
RE: Reporter Jailed in US
Why not Novak, indeed? He would be the easier target since his ties to the Bush White House bring his credentials as a journalist into question in this case. Nobody is suggesting that political operatives be allowed to protect their sources, after all.
Other than Novak's lack of journalistic integrity though...you have to take the good with the bad and allow reporters to protect bastards like Rove or else you set a precedent where they cannot protect legitimate sources who are revealing information for the public good.
Why not Novak, indeed? He would be the easier target since his ties to the Bush White House bring his credentials as a journalist into question in this case. Nobody is suggesting that political operatives be allowed to protect their sources, after all.
Other than Novak's lack of journalistic integrity though...you have to take the good with the bad and allow reporters to protect bastards like Rove or else you set a precedent where they cannot protect legitimate sources who are revealing information for the public good.