Remainers still don’t get it — we want to be British and get away from Brussels
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And yet the presence of East European migrant workers was a major factor in the way many Brits voted.
Still the least racist country in Europe.
And there's nothing racist in wanting a reduction in immigration and a return to controlling our own borders.
A reduction in immigration? Great idea if you want to commit demographic and economic suicide. Remember, the UK's population growth rate is less than the replacement rate.
Good. The country is too crowded as it is already, placing an intolerable strain on the NHS, schools and housing.
Immigration is far too high and needs to be cut from the hundreds of thousands each year back down to the tens of thousands each year that it was before the Blair Administration opened the floodgates in the late Nineties.
We need to get out of the EU, end free movement and get back control of our own borders.
PETER HITCHENS: Like a rattlesnake, the EU can bite us long after it gets the chop
By Peter Hitchens for The Mail on Sunday
10 June 2018
We learned last week that a rattlesnake can still bite and kill you long after you have cut off its head.
The European Union is just as dangerous. I am amazed at how relaxed so many people are about leaving it.
They think it will be like some Harry Potter film where you pronounce the magic spell, and are free.
How silly. The EU has spent nearly 50 years burrowing into this country, and sucking power and wealth from us through a million tiny channels.
Its tentacles are deep into Parliament, the Civil Service, the diplomatic service, industry and commerce, universities and schools and, of course, the media, especially the BBC.
The EU is as 'dangerous as a rattlesnake' after 'sucking power and wealth' from this country, writes Peter Hitchens. Pictured is the European Commission headquarters in Brussels
So did you really think (yes, I think some of you did) that, thanks to a rather close referendum, we could just walk out, wave goodbye and start again as an independent country?
As I wrote in February 2016, in words which I nowadays find being repeated by a lot of other people: ‘You read it first here. The EU is like the Hotel California. You can check out. But you can never leave.’
I said that a number of supposed Leavers really just wanted a renegotiation of our membership, under the guise of departure.
And I’ve been very interested, in all the mind-numbing wrangles over borders, markets and customs, that everyone has forgotten what – to me – is one of the single worst aspects of the EU.
The European Arrest Warrant, under which some magistrate in Bucharest can order a British police officer to arrest you, and which fundamentally weakens British liberty, is still going to apply here after our alleged exit.
This matters far more than the glorious freedom to import and eat American, chlorine-washed chickens, or whether we can do some supposedly luscious independent trade deal with Malaysia.
No doubt the Malaysians would be frantic to buy British goods, if there were any. But the EU has wiped out most of our home industries, so I suspect such deals would just mean importing more stuff from Malaysia.
Then there’s the M20 problem. I don’t know for certain what will happen at the ports of Calais, Ostend, Antwerp and Rotterdam if we leave the Single Market.
But from what I can understand of the ‘third country’ rule, things could be very bad.
Non-tariff barriers, myriad complex regulations which must be applied to non-EU goods under international trade law, are simply bound to delay the entry of British goods to these EU ports.
And we must also apply these regulations (again, by international law) to goods from the EU.
So what if the scare stories are right, and the M20 does turn overnight into an enormous lorry-park, backed up for miles with immobilised trucks? It seems perfectly possible to me.
Is anyone who claims that ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’ prepared to give a written, personal guarantee that they will resign for ever from any public office if this is what happens?
I have been in favour of this country leaving the EU for many years, in times when plenty of today’s noisiest and most prominent Leavers were either silent on the subject or actively pro-EU.
And I think we should be very careful. Here is my nightmare, a little like what happened to Jeremy Sutcliffe in Lake Corpus Christi, Texas, who beheaded a rattlesnake with his shovel and thought he was safe.
Ten minutes later, he picked up the apparently lifeless head to throw it away, and it bit him. He nearly died. Well, what if the EU bites back after we think we’ve left it? We go for a gung-ho exit, and it turns out badly, with blocked ports and an economic meltdown?
What I fear is that the massed ranks of Remainers will then demand, and get, their second referendum, and a panic-stricken British populace will vote to return.
Ah, yes, the EU smiles, you are welcome to come back, provided you now accept the euro, abolish the pound and what remains of your border controls. And so we end up worse than we started, locked and sealed in ever-closer union.
All this can still be avoided by the sensible, workable compromise I’ve urged here before and which MPs – if they have any wits about them – will support in the coming days.
Go for the Norway option. Leave the EU, get back a large measure of migration control (yes, you can, in the EEA), get rid of 75 per cent of its interference in our lives, but take no economic risks.
We may still be stuck in the Hotel California once it’s done, but we’ll be in the luxury suite, not in the miserable damp annexe with a view of the wheelie bins, which will be our lot if the fanatics get their way.
An archbishop preaching pure nonsense
Is the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, sick of his job? Mr Welby declares that the EU ‘has been the greatest dream realised for human beings since the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
'It has brought peace, prosperity, compassion for the poor and weak, purpose for the aspirational and hope for all its people’.
What is he talking about? The EU is not Europe, but the continuation of Germany by other means. It is a rather brutal and arrogant mechanism, not necessarily bringing prosperity, as Greece has discovered in detail.
Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, pictured, says the EU has brought 'peace, prosperity and compassion for the poor and weak'
It is specifically non-Christian. One of its founding spirits, Altiero Spinelli, was a fervent communist, and it rejected calls to acknowledge the Christian roots of European civilisation in its constitution.
An Italian Christian, Rocco Buttiglione, was prevented from becoming a commissioner because of his religious opinions. Its expansionism has brought war to Yugoslavia and Ukraine, and may yet cause more violence.
Mr Welby often seems to me to be in the grip of liberal fashions in thought, poorly informed on subjects about which he pontificates, and perhaps bored by his responsibilities.
Quite possibly, he actually hopes that people like me will suggest that he finds something else to do. Happy to oblige.
PETER HITCHENS: Like a rattlesnake, the EU can bite us long after it gets the chop | Daily Mail Online
Perhaps you should check out the effect on Japan of an anti-immigration stance. I'll summarize it for you - stagnant group and a future catastrophic population crash.
But don’t you think there are already to many people on earth , so why pray tell would this be a bad thing ?
Let's say you are a businessman and suddenly your consumer base is cut by millions. What happens to your profits?
Bill Maher Says What Democrats All Think: They Want an Economic Collapse
(just to get rid of trump?)
The ignorant stupid brain dead communist f*cks want this for YOU!
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My gawd: the STUPIDITY!!!!
Amazing. I had no idea you could read the mind of every Democrat in the US.
You are the environmentalist , you are the one who wants less people on earth . But in answer to your question charge more , lay off staff and cut costs .
So I guess if Quebec voted 51% to 49% to remain in Canada, it wasn't a legitimate vote according to some here either and, of course, making alternate trade deals with other countries would not be an option either apparently. Huh, who knew?
scratch the "if" oops!
scratch the "if" oops!
At least the Japanese aren't having their distinct culture and traditions slowly eroded by outsiders; don't have filthy, disease-ridden Islamic ghettos in their cities; and don't suffer frequent Islamist terror attacks. Not embracing "multiculturalism and diversity" means Japan isn't going to go the same way as Western Europe and North America - down the pan. When we become backward medieval Muslim countries, the Japanese will be laughing at us.
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The Bad Boys of Brexit spoke for Britain this week: Just get on with Brexit — we’ll be in the bar!
By Richard Littlejohn for the Daily Mail
15 June 2018
For once, someone spoke for Britain at the Palace of Westminster. ‘If you want us we’ll be in the bar,’ said Arron Banks, one of the self-styled Bad Boys Of Brexit.
With that exquisite putdown, Banks and his oppo Andy Wigmore repaired to lunch, leaving gobsmacked MPs chewing their own tongues, astounded at the lack of respect they were being shown.
Banks and Wigmore had been summoned to the Commons to address some Fantasy Island nonsense about Russia rigging the EU referendum. After a few hours of tiresome ‘When did you stop beating your wife?’ questioning, they’d had enough. It was time to draw stumps. ‘We’ve got a luncheon appointment we don’t want to be late for.’
Anna Soubry talking in Parliament about how a remainer MP needed six police guards
The Hon Members attempted to stand on their dignity and insisted that the pair stuck around for further interrogation.
As if that was ever going to happen.
When one of the committee tried to pull rank, Banks asked: ‘Are you that MP who got drunk in the House of Commons and harassed a woman at a karaoke evening?’
Collapse of stout party.
As the Bad Boys got to their feet, Damian Collins, the puffed-up pygmy who chairs the Culture select committee, pleaded: ‘Can you just give us five minutes?’
No.
Banks and Wigmore quite rightly treated the committee’s members with the contempt they richly deserve, ridiculing their real motive for summoning them to Westminster.
‘Hands up who voted Remain,’ said Banks. Precisely.
That’s what this impertinent Star Chamber was all about. How dare the likes of Banks and Wigmore attempt to influence the Great Unwashed to ignore the orders of their elders and betters?
The real scandal was the pretence that Leave.EU — the Banks-rolled provisional wing of the Leave campaign — was guilty of treason for sharing a bucket of goulash and a bottle of Stalin’s Stoli with the Russkies.
If anyone is guilty of treachery, it’s the politicians from every party who are determined to betray the biggest popular vote in British history for anything in order to keep this great country subjugated to a corrupt, anti-democratic foreign power, based in Brussels.
Sorry, I just don’t get it.
Those of us who live outside the Westminster bubble have been looking on with astonishment this week. I don’t think I’ve ever known a time when the posturing political class have been so far removed from the people they are supposed to represent.
There’s no need for me to spend much time monstering the ludicrous Dominique Grieve, an alleged Tory, who was rather splendidly done up like a kipper (pardon, hareng fumé) by Quentin Letts yesterday.
Grieve’s about as representative of the British people as that rip-roaring bonkers Soubry woman, who still hasn’t got over the schoolgirl crush she had on Ken Clarke in the Seventies, when she was a pretty hopeless reporter in ITV’s Nottingham newsroom.
Soubry reminds me of the bird who sings the theme tune to the BBC comedy, Mum, which I always mishear as: ‘I’ve got my knickers on the wrong way round.’
Arron Banks nailed Remainers such as Here We Go Soubry Loo when he told her fellow travellers on the Culture committee: ‘Straight after this hearing you’ll be quaffing Chablis with a Guardian journalist, spinning this how you want.’
Sounds about right.
On Wednesday, the BBC led all its bulletins, all day, on the ‘news’ that a Conservative junior minister you’ve never heard of had resigned from a job you didn’t know he had, in protest at the Government’s handling of Brexit — something which the majority of his constituents supported at the referendum.
Yesterday, from what I can gather, half the Labour Party resigned from jobs you didn’t know they had, either — again over something to do with Brexit. But that wasn’t considered quite so newsworthy.
Meanwhile, in the Commons, Speaker Bercow set a new record in allowing Prime Minister’s Questions (which used to last 15 minutes) to drag on for an hour.
In the middle of it all, Wee Burney’s SNP staged a walk-out over an obscure point of order, utterly lost on anyone who hasn’t studied Erskine May’s 1844 Treatise On The Law, Privileges, Proceedings And Usage Of Parliament.
The SNP pygmies staged a Commons walk-out during Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday
That was a ‘major, major’ story on the rolling news channels, too, except it wasn’t for the 99.99 per cent of viewers who were watching Bargain Hunt instead.
Round the corner, in Smith Square, Dominique Grieve was plotting to sabotage Brexit with a bunch of self-regarding Remoaners, including Alastair Campbell, the only man I know who has a certificate to prove he’s sane.
Also present was Henry Porter, someone I vaguely remember as a particularly pompous hack on London’s Evening Standard society pages back in the late Seventies, and Tory-turned-Liberal ex-MP Hugh Dykes, whom I inherited, and rapidly jettisoned, as a pundit when I took over from Michael Parkinson on LBC Radio in the early Nineties.
Dykes had the worst case of gingivitis I’ve ever seen. His gums appeared to have been creosoted. Put you right off your lunch.
And from the look of the pictures in yesterday’s Mail, he’s still got the same suit, too. (The Next summer sale, Brent Cross, circa 1991.)
The runners and riders also included the former journalist Patience Wheatcroft (they’re all a former something-or-other) elevated to the Lords by Call Me Dave in 2010. The last time I saw Patience she was a passionate Eurosceptic, parroting the anti-EU sentiments of her then employer Rupert Murdoch.
Where does this Rag, Tag and Bobtail army of the so-called great and good get the idea that they have the God-given right to overturn the democratic will of the British people? They can huff and puff all they want but, frankly, no one outside their navel-gazing demi-monde is listening.
That’s why the Bad Boys Of Brexit spoke for Britain this week. The politicians ignore us at their peril. We’ve got an appointment we don’t intend to miss, either — freedom from the EU, for good, March 2019. Just shut up and get on with it.
Until then, if you want us, we’ll be in the bar.
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: the bad boys of Brexit spoke for Britain | Daily Mail Online
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