Remainers still don’t get it — we want to be British and get away from Brussels

Blackleaf

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Lord Malloch-Brown has done us all a favour. With his pro-EU dribblings about appeasing Hitler, the silly old duffer has demonstrated that the real thickos are all on the Remain side...

TONY PARSONS Remainers still don’t get it — we want to be British and get away from Brussels

Brexit opponents and EU chiefs are trying to shut down 17.4million Brits who voted Leave with cheap insults and scare tactics and it won't work, says Tony Parsons

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By Tony Parsons, Sun on Sunday columnist
Sun on Sunday
3rd June 2018

OVER the past two years, the 17.4million of us who voted to leave the European Union have got used to being insulted.

From the House of Lords to the BBC, from ex-prime ministers to indignant luvvies, the liberal establishment never tires of telling us that we are ignorant racist bigots who should never have been trusted with a vote.


Brits are proudly patriotic and no insults from Remainers will change that

Now ex-Labour minister Lord Malloch-Brown, glove puppet for billionaire George Soros’s Best For Britain campaign — which seeks to cancel the biggest vote in British history — claims that leaving the EU is like Neville Chamberlain appeasing Hitler in 1938.

Come again, M’Lud?

“When we try to, sort of, pull away from Europe’s problems and close ourselves off from them, they have a horrible habit of infecting us anyway,” Lord Malloch-Brown told the BBC.

“Appeasement in the 1930s, you name it. For centuries, Britain has ignored continental Europe events at its peril.”


Desperate... Lord Malloch-Brown has tried to belittle Brexit

As Ken Livingstone has proved, it is the sign of a desperate man who feels the need to bring up Adolf Hitler to make his point.

As 17.4million people could tell Lord Malloch-Brown, Brexit has never been about shutting ourselves off from Europe. Brexit is, above and beyond all else, a restoration of national sovereignty.

Brexit is about embracing the world and striking trade deals with emerging nations such as India and China, and re-establishing historic links with old friends including Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the US.

Why can’t they get it through their thick Remainer heads?


Britain is trying to distance itself from the EU... but wants to trade with other countries

The British are no longer happy to be a colony of Brussels.

The Best For Britain campaign is bankrolled by Hungarian-born American citizen Soros, and the billionaire financier really should be getting more for his money than the historically illiterate bleatings of Lord Malloch-Brown, who lacks the intellect to make 17.4million people change their minds.

And isn’t that the big problem with all those who campaign to castrate Brexit?

There is no real attempt to persuade.


George Soros is leading the Best For Britain campaign

There is no effort to understand who so many of us want to take back control of our borders, our economy, our destiny. And there is no RESPECT.

There are only pathetic playground insults.

Nobody on the Remain side shows any understanding of why so many millions are not happy for our proud and successful nation to remain a vassal state of the European Union.

But George Soros himself says that the EU is an “existential crisis.” And he is right.

Italy is in turmoil because joining the euro has been catastrophic for its economy.


Angela Merkel's immigration policy has proved disastrous for Germany

France has twice our unemployment rate. Angela Merkel has created social divisions that Germany will be dealing with for generations.

The Spanish Prime Minister was just kicked out on a vote of no confidence. And the East European nations will not take orders from Germany.

Every empire in history ultimately collapses. Why should the EU last for ever?

If there is any appeasement, then it is surely being done by the likes of Lord Malloch-Brown and all those craven Remainers who tug their forelock when Brussels treats our country with undisguised, sneering contempt for daring to want out.


EU chief Michael Barnier is not treating Brexit with the attention it deserves

Chief EU negotiator Michel Barnier has briefed that Brexit will be “only a footnote” at next month’s EU summit.

Only a footnote?

But we are one of the world’s major economies.

Without our £39billion divorce bill, Brussels is skint.

And yet these arrogant oafs continue to try to intimidate the UK.

It is the Remainers who patently lack the will to stand up to bullies, although I would never compare Lord Malloch-Brown to an appeaser of Nazis.

Because the crumbling EU is not Nazi Germany.

Because dragging the Nazis into the Brexit debate would be an insult to the six million who died in concentration camps.

And because the argument to leave the EU is compelling enough without bringing in Adolf Hitler.

Lord Malloch-Brown has done us all a favour. With his pro-EU dribblings about appeasing Hitler, the silly old duffer has demonstrated that the real thickos are all on the Remain side.

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Danbones

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The EU is an imposed tyrannical communist globalist nazi idea in the first place.
I would be looking at who exactly supports that idea, and I would seriously question their intelligence and their motives.

For example, Obama supported this idea big time. So did Churchill, a founder of the EU.
 

Blackleaf

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The EU is an imposed tyrannical communist globalist nazi idea in the first place.
I would be looking at who exactly supports that idea, and I would seriously question their intelligence and their motives.

For example, Obama supported this idea big time. So did Churchill, a founder of the EU.

I've never understood what attracts Remainers so much to an economically sclerotic, undemocratic, corrupt superstate-in-the-making.

As for Churchill, he may have approved of a political union of European countries but he didn't want Britain to be a part of it.
 

Danbones

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Regardless of motives, there you are, stuck in a tar pit.
;)
to be fair, we are in our own version of debt slavery here as well.

None of this is accidental.
 

Blackleaf

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Regardless of motives, there you are, stuck in a tar pit.
;)
to be fair, we are in our own version of debt slavery here as well.

None of this is accidental.

We're leaving the tar pit at 11pm our time on Friday 29th March 2019. What a weekend that will be.
 

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I find it hilarious how you disparage the no side of this one and disparage the yes side of the irish abortion one.
 

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The Brexit of course is a far far less convincing win than the Irish abortion modernization.


The Irish vote was overwhelming. NO question about the public support.

The Brexit was razor thin - with a topic that only really energized one side - the leave side. The remain side supporters were far less likely to bother to vote.

Also Ireland and Scotland both voted to remain - Scotland overwhelmingly so - but they are being forced to live by Englands wishes - as usual.
 

Blackleaf

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The Brexit of course is a far far less convincing win than the Irish abortion modernization.

So what?

The Irish vote was overwhelming. NO question about the public support.

And was has it go to do with Brexit?

The Brexit was razor thin

So what? I doubt it would be so "razor thin" were it to be held tomorrow.

The remain side supporters were far less likely to bother to vote.

So? Not my fault Remoaners are lazy bastards.

Also Ireland and Scotland both voted to remain - Scotland overwhelmingly so -

So what? So did Manchester. Not every part of the country can vote one way.

County Donegal was on the losing side in the Irish abortion referendum. Why not display your anger at that, too?

but they are being forced to live by Englands wishes - as usual.

Not quite. England often has to abide by Scotland's wishes - such as when Scotland foisted a Blair Government on England in 2005.
 

Hoid

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So what?

You are trying to argue that the Irish vote is illegitimate when it is far far more legitimate than is Brexit.

So obviously what you happen to believe in is what makes something legitimate.

That's what makes you such a hilarious prat!
 

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So what?

You are trying to argue that the Irish vote is illegitimate when it is far far more legitimate than is Brexit.

So obviously what you happen to believe in is what makes something legitimate.

That's what makes you such a hilarious prat!



Quote where HE has said that it's illegitimate.


What's hilarious is you having to twist or out right lie about what your "opponents" say or do.
 

Hoid

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England and Wales voted to leave - Scotland and Ireland voted to remain.

Shouldn't it have to be unanimous?

Why would Scotland and Ireland want to be in a union where their wishes are subservient to someone else's?

(isn't that the point of Brexit? The English don't want to be in the position that the other members of the UK are in? Having their interests take second place to the EU's, the way Scotland and Ireland take second place to England?))
 

gerryh

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England and Wales voted to leave - Scotland and Ireland voted to remain.

Shouldn't it have to be unanimous?

Why would Scotland and Ireland want to be in a union where their wishes are subservient to someone else's?



Ireland is not part of Great Britain. Ireland is in the EU and has not voted to leave.


Great Britain, which has voted to leave, is made up of England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. This is something most of us took in geography classes in school. Unless you were one of those kids that constantly skipped and didn't give a shyte about your education, or you were brought up in the american education system that seems to think that geography begins and ends at the u.s. borders. Which was it?
 

Blackleaf

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You are trying to argue that the Irish vote is illegitimate

Where did I say that?

when it is far far more legitimate than is Brexit.
Don't be silly. Of course it isn't.

England and Wales voted to leave - Scotland and Ireland voted to remain.

The United Kingdom voted Leave. THerefore the United KIngdom leaves.

Shouldn't it have to be unanimous?
No. The rules of the referendum stated that whichever side gets the most votes wins. You can't now go trying to change the rules of British referenda just because one went the way you didn't want it to go.

Why would Scotland and Ireland want to be in a union where their wishes are subservient to someone else's?
Are we talking about the UK here or the EU? It's hard to tell.

What I do know about the Scots, though, is that in 2014 they voted to stay in the United Kingdom even though they knew full well that there is going to be an EU in/out referendum. That's not the fault of the English.

(isn't that the point of Brexit? The English don't want to be in the position that the other members of the UK are in? Having their interests take second place to the EU's, the way Scotland and Ireland take second place to England?))
Is that the same Scotland and Northern Ireland which, unlike England, have their own parliament and assembly respectively, two bodies which have only the concerns of both nations at heart?

It's not the way the Scots and Northern Irish are being treated which is scandalous. They are treated much better than the English, who don't have their own parliament and no body to discuss just English-only matters.
 

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The Brexit of course is a far far less convincing win than the Irish abortion modernization.


The Irish vote was overwhelming. NO question about the public support.

The Brexit was razor thin - with a topic that only really energized one side - the leave side. The remain side supporters were far less likely to bother to vote.

Also Ireland and Scotland both voted to remain - Scotland overwhelmingly so - but they are being forced to live by Englands wishes - as usual.




It's no surprise hoidy toidy doesn't understand the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland.


And then he wonders why he commands absolutely zero around here. :lol:
 

Hoid

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Where did I say that?

Don't be silly. Of course it isn't.



The United Kingdom voted Leave. THerefore the United KIngdom leaves.

No. The rules of the referendum stated that whichever side gets the most votes wins. You can't now go trying to change the rules of British referenda just because one went the way you didn't want it to go.

Are we talking about the UK here or the EU? It's hard to tell.

What I do know about the Scots, though, is that in 2014 they voted to stay in the United Kingdom even though they knew full well that there is going to be an EU in/out referendum. That's not the fault of the English.

Is that the same Scotland and Northern Ireland which, unlike England, have their own parliament and assembly respectively, two bodies which have only the concerns of both nations at heart?

It's not the way the Scots and Northern Irish are being treated which is scandalous. They are treated much better than the English, who don't have their own parliament and no body to discuss just English-only matters.
This is when you know you have caused a real orgasm.

You're welcome
 

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The EU is an imposed tyrannical communist globalist nazi idea in the first place.
I would be looking at who exactly supports that idea, and I would seriously question their intelligence and their motives.

For example, Obama supported this idea big time. So did Churchill, a founder of the EU.


But it,s an evermore efficient amalgomation, pairing, breeding , inoculation of state central control with the working meat. We will be fitted with generators so that our every kilometer is matter of power production and our value will entail what we can generate into the great social grid. Your country appreciates your contribution towards building a better future for Amersia, we hope we can continue to feed you during the unfolding next grand solar minimum.


Cain,t the remainers be oppressed by ordinary violence?

Put your backs into it and you,ll get some results. Are you armed appropriately? How many surface vessels do you have?