Record Lotto MAX prize attracts ticket buyers — or are they suckers?

Dexter Sinister

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You're right Toro, that IS the correct way to figure it, it's a rational gamble if the probability of winning times the size of the payout matches or betters the cost of a ticket. Except for the complication that there may be multiple winners, so even if you bought every possible set of numbers you could still lose. Actually with odds like these lotteries have, the probability of winning is pretty much the same whether you buy a ticket or not, for most practical purposes it's essentially zero, in the sense that you can't make plans on the assumption that you'll win something significant, but as others have rightly pointed out, it's cheap entertainment. I've never seen any stats on who buys tickets, but I'd bet it's mostly people in the lower half of the income distribution, and most of the activities that lotteries fund benefit the upper half of the income distribution. It's always seemed to me likely to be an income transfer from the poor to the wealthy.
 

Nuggler

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Even beer? Times never get that tough.


Yep, they do, or usta was. But not since I spent 30 years ****ing the dog in a union job, eh:p

When times was tough, we made our own beer and wine. Turned out not too bad actually.

The guy down the road bought a pit bull when his wild grapes kept disappearing .:lol:............dog liked scraps from the butcher more than he liked to attack some dirty grape thieves who shall remain unnamed.

The statistician in me says that whenever the jackpot is above the dollar-weighted odds of buying a ticket, you should buy a lottery ticket. So, for example, if the lottery is $60 million, the odds of winning 15,000,000:1, and a ticket costs $2, the dollar-weighted odds are 30,000,000:1, which is less than the $60 million lottery jackpot. IOW, if you could buy every single ticket combination - there are 15 million of them - it would cost you $30 million, you would be guaranteed to win the $60 million jackpot, and you would create a certain profit of $30 million. Or, your "expected" return is $2 for every $1 spent, or 2:1. Whenever it is above 1:1, it is rational to play the lottery.

Or at least that's what I tell myself every time I plunk down $10 to buy a Powerball mega-jackpot ticket.

Nice to see you again, Toro.

So, given the odds, I should convince the dear wife that we should mortgage the ranch and take the plunge!!

Great . Been looking for a chance like this. I'll let you know how it turns out.;-)

Know of any good penny stocks??
 

shadowshiv

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Only a $120?!? I'm never going to get my Royale with Cheese that Way. ;)

Lol.



I agree. If one can't dig up a little 2-4 money, then you're just not Canadian enough. Lol

Yeah, isn't that crazy? The prizes need to be a little more evened out!
 

shadowshiv

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Well it's not as if you can count on them to ever pay out really, but even a few more free tickets would be nice. If only to keep the dream alive a little longer, lol.

Speaking of free tickets...that's all I won.:(
 

tay

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The statistician in me says that whenever the jackpot is above the dollar-weighted odds of buying a ticket, you should buy a lottery ticket. So, for example, if the lottery is $60 million, the odds of winning 15,000,000:1, and a ticket costs $2, the dollar-weighted odds are 30,000,000:1, which is less than the $60 million lottery jackpot. IOW, if you could buy every single ticket combination - there are 15 million of them - it would cost you $30 million, you would be guaranteed to win the $60 million jackpot, and you would create a certain profit of $30 million. Or, your "expected" return is $2 for every $1 spent, or 2:1. Whenever it is above 1:1, it is rational to play the lottery.

Or at least that's what I tell myself every time I plunk down $10 to buy a Powerball mega-jackpot ticket.







Of course if you spent the $30 mill you would win the jackpot but not necessarily the $60 mill as there could be one or more winners of that jackpot........




I heard this on the radio the other day and many thoughts went through me and none of them positive...........








It seems that provinces are alarmed by the fact that millennials and the precariat are not so keen to throw away their money on lotteries.


Perhaps the kids realize money, that ever-scarce commodity in their lives, could be put to better use. And of course this is what happens when higher paying manufacturing and related jobs flee a country. A whole segment of society grows up without extra money.



What the article below doesn't mention is a survey, which I don't know how accurate it may be, but one I found stunning is that 34% of Canadians think they will be okay in retirement because they will win a lottery..................






Sally MacDonald, a 32-year-old social service worker in Winnipeg, is one of the many millennials who are not interested in lottery tickets. She says the long odds are a prime reason.
"There's no results from it. I've watched my dad play 6-49 for years and years, and he's maybe won $500."




The Interprovincial Lottery Corp., which represents all provincial and territorial lottery agencies, is looking for consultants who can come up with ideas for a new game similar to Lotto 6-49, in which players select numbers.
A request for proposals says the winning consultant will lead "face-to-face brainstorm ... sessions to generate ... ideas for a new, national lottery game that will be attractive to the 18-34-year-old player base."

It may be a challenge. Statistics on the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp.'s website indicate that among Ontarians who buy lotto tickets at least once a week, only 13 per cent are under 35. The mean age of players who take part at least once a week is 52.
Across the country, the decline is sharp.




Provinces target more young people for lotto ticket sales - Manitoba - CBC News