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Motar

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So, Caesar invented the elephants, Cliffy? To what end? Was he planning to tax them? There is no real evidence that these elephants exist.
 

darkbeaver

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VerbeWarp: The Condensation of Tacit Knowledge
And then, the role that 'space' plays to the emergence of the trinity – the Holy Trinity – must be adequately displayed when 'time' is withdrawn from the algorithm or “model”. Below is the Pythagorean or numerical and Occult version of the Holy Trinity mathematically expressed and in a priori terms of qualitative and issuing quantitative divisions, additions and multiplications which lead to all life and its energies - from Unity through multiplicity to achieve the accomplished Effect that is named Man.


There are many learned works on the alchemy of the natural sciences including Steiner, Kuhn, Schwaller et al and for further study the interested reader must source directly from these and such like references. Notwithstanding the Ennead is here as is God the Father, the Mother, the Son and the Holy Spirit that is to say, the genre or artistic qualitative compositions including their binding and potential energies. Here then, following, is the Prime Principle in numbers originating probably well before 6000BCE. Then as 1, 2, 3.




I

I I


From Schwaller (A Study of Numbers - page 44): “In its absolute nature, the absolute state is not understandable. From the moment, however, that we observe its double nature we have already provoked scission – for then One (the unique irreducible cause) is recognized, by its double nature, to be Two.

Thus we may add a new Unity to the causal Unity, and this new Unity is Two.


  • I = Irreducible Unity. Absolute nature.
  • (II) = Reducible Unity. The manifested nature of the irreducible One.
Successively, then, we obtain Three distinct natures.


  1. The irreducible One, active and passive in one. (Protoplasm)
    [*]Passive nature (feminine)
    [*]Active nature (masculine)

In actuality, the manifestation of the active nature necessarily precedes that of the passive nature, since the irreducible I, having to manifest itself, becomes II (the irreducible I) and is above all 3 (III) and hence is the values 1 & 2, without which there would be no creation, as we realized in the previous chapter.


This fact is explained in the Bible in the words: God created man and made him a companion from one of his ribs so he would not be alone.


Indeed, from the moment that there is activity, there is already opposition to it: The infinite circle is broken; scission has provokes the first polarizatio

Gerald Massey's Published Lectures. (1)
4. The personal existence of Jesus as Jehoshua Ben-Pandira can be established beyond a doubt. One account affirms that, according to a genuine Jewish tradition "that man (who is not to be named) was a disciple of Jehoshua Ben-Perachia." It also says, "He was born in the fourth year of the reign of the Jewish King Alexander Jannæus, notwithstanding the assertions of his followers that he was born in the reign of Herod." That would be more than a century earlier than the date of birth assigned to the Jesus of the Gospels! But it can be further shown that Jehoshua Ben-Pandira may have been born considerably earlier even than the year 102 B.C., although the point is not of much consequence here. Jehoshua, son of Perachia, was a president of the Sanhedrin—the fifth, reckoning from Ezra as the first: one of those who in the line of descent received and transmitted the oral law, as it was said, direct from Sinai. There could not be two of that name. This Ben-Perachia had begun to teach as a Rabbi in the year 154 B.C. We may therefore reckon that he was not born later than 180-170 B.C., and that it could hardly be later than 100 B.C. when he went down into Egypt with his pupil. For it is related that he fled there in consequence of a persecution of the Rabbis, feasibly conjectured to refer to the civil war in which the Pharisees revolted against King Alexander Jannæus, and consequently about 105 B.C. If we put the age of his pupil, Jehoshua Ben-Pandira, at fifteen years, that will give us an approximate date, extracted without pressure, which shows that Jehoshua Ben-Pandira may have been born about the year 120 B.C. But twenty years are a matter of little moment here.
 

Motar

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VerbeWarp: The Condensation of Tacit Knowledge And then, the role that 'space' plays to the emergence of the trinity – the Holy Trinity – must be adequately displayed when 'time' is withdrawn from the algorithm or “model”. Below is the Pythagorean or numerical and Occult version of the Holy Trinity mathematically expressed and in a priori terms of qualitative and issuing quantitative divisions, additions and multiplications which lead to all life and its energies - from Unity through multiplicity to achieve the accomplished Effect that is named Man. There are many learned works on the alchemy of the natural sciences including Steiner, Kuhn, Schwaller et al and for further study the interested reader must source directly from these and such like references. Notwithstanding the Ennead is here as is God the Father, the Mother, the Son and the Holy Spirit that is to say, the genre or artistic qualitative compositions including their binding and potential energies. Here then, following, is the Prime Principle in numbers originating probably well before 6000BCE. Then as 1, 2, 3. From Schwaller (A Study of Numbers - page 44): “In its absolute nature, the absolute state is not understandable. From the moment, however, that we observe its double nature we have already provoked scission – for then One (the unique irreducible cause) is recognized, by its double nature, to be Two. Thus we may add a new Unity to the causal Unity, and this new Unity is Two. I = Irreducible Unity. Absolute nature. (II) = Reducible Unity. The manifested nature of the irreducible One.
Successively, then, we obtain Three distinct natures.
1. The irreducible One, active and passive in one. (Protoplasm) 2. Passive nature (feminine) 3. Active nature (masculine)
In actuality, the manifestation of the active nature necessarily precedes that of the passive nature, since the irreducible I, having to manifest itself, becomes II (the irreducible I) and is above all 3 (III) and hence is the values 1 & 2, without which there would be no creation, as we realized in the previous chapter. This fact is explained in the Bible in the words: God created man and made him a companion from one of his ribs so he would not be alone. Indeed, from the moment that there is activity, there is already opposition to it: The infinite circle is broken; scission has provokes the first polarization


"God is an awesome mathematician and physicist." (Francis Collins)
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/f/franciscol555164.html

Sincere and many thanks to all the members of this discussion community for the spiritual enrichment you bring to my life : )
 

darkbeaver

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I have a bit of a confession, I'm somewhat troubled by a recurring thought these days, associated with this thread, in that should a time come when a decision has to be taken and all personal available rational evidence has been exhausted in searching for direction, then, in my present estimation, it would be sub consciously rational to proceed in the direction indicated by the gut feelings. I'm suggesting that where the conscious mind finds no plan that the unconscious mind often provides one. Do we have to be in the conscious mind to make a rational decision?
 

Dexter Sinister

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You started this thread believing that and have displayed that bias all the way through, you didn't learn it here. If you'd been paying attention you'd have learned that it's not true.
 

darkbeaver

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The compatibility of the "ologies", Dex, biology and theology.

Very interesting, but since the two are welded together isn't there a better word, like co-dependent maybe?

You started this thread believing that and have displayed that bias all the way through, you didn't learn it here. If you'd been paying attention you'd have learned that it's not true.

You know my God the sun, so, even the clam and the sparrow worship it, stretching the word worship I know, but not too far I think, further each biological organism is also dependent on that God. Do animals adhere to basic theology? Would it be correct to call it theology?
 

Motar

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Very interesting, but since the two are welded together isn't there a better word, like co-dependent maybe?

Or woven together and integrated. How has your life been impacted by the discussion, DB?
 

talloola

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i haven't participated in the discussion, but i have learned a lot, i know now more than ever, and
after each discussion of this type, that i can move forward again with my knowledge that my 'non faith', is
the correct and positive road for me, has been for many years, and gets stronger and stronger as
i move thu my life.

i am a gentle atheist, a happy atheist, i am grateful to my parents who have given me the genes to see
deeply into the personality of life, to know the right path for me.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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This thread will end, not with a bang, but a snicker. . .