It would go like hell. It had twice the horsepower and torque.
There were some really weird Corvair engines in dragsters back in the seventies. With enough boost these engines could produce over six hundred hoersepower.
Ralph Nader coming to Canada!
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It would go like hell. It had twice the horsepower and torque.
There were some really weird Corvair engines in dragsters back in the seventies. With enough boost these engines could produce over six hundred hoersepower.
Yes he's a good speaker, but he's a lying sack of **** that nobody in their right mind would credit with five minutes of free ear. Nader at least still has his balls.
Ralph Nader Calls Obama "Uncle Tom"?
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Fox News distorts Nader's comments to paint him as a racist
Fox News distorts Nader's comments to paint him as a racist
Posted November 07, 2008
Fox News: "Guess who's here? The Independent party candidate, Ralph Nader. This is his second run for the Presidency since he played spoiler in the close 2000 contest. This year he was on the ballot in 45 states plus D.C. This year he was polling about 1-percent. Ralph, you spoke to Fox News Radio's Houston affiliate today, and said this:"Nader: "To put it very simply, he is our first African American president; or he will be. And we wish him well. But his choice, basically, is whether he's going to be Uncle Sam for the people of this country, or Uncle Tom for the giant corporations".
Fox News: "Really. Ralph Nader -- What was that?"
Nader: "It's very simple. He has gone along with corporate power from the moment he entered politics in the State Senate -- Voted for the Wall Street Bailout -- Supports expanding military budget that is desired by the military industrial complex, and doesn't really have a tax reform thing for the ordinary fellow in this country -- Opposes single-payer full Medicare for all, because the giant HMOs AETNA and SIGNA do -- Doesn't have a living wage -- He's supposed to be respectful of the poor -- hardly mentions them in his speech -- It's all the middle class -- He doesn't have a comprehensive program..."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "... and you utter the words 'Uncle Tom'? Are you kidding me?"
Nader: "Yeah... that's the question he's gotta face."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "He didn't have to face it until it came out of your mouth! I mean, I just wonder if you don't realize that you had a number of supporters out there. You were running a percentage this year, you were reduced to irrelevant, and I just wonder now if that's what you want your legacy to be -- the man who, on the night that the first African American President in the history of this nation was elected, you ask if he's going to be Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom."
Nader: "Yeah, of course. He's turned his back on a hundred-million poor people in this country -- African Americans and Latinos and poor whites, and we're gonna hold them to a higher standard. It's just not an unprecedented career move, ya know, in the White House. We expect more of Barack Obama..."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "You were reduced to complete irrelevance here. You weren't able to play spoiler. Will you run again?"
Nader: "Look, I don't like bullies like you. I can't see you. You can pull the plug on me. I'm lookin' at a dark camera..."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "You said "Uncle Tom". I didn't say it, sir. With respect, I did not say it..."
Nader: "I said that's the question HE has to answer. He can become a great President, or he can become a toady for the corporate powers that have brought both parties to their knees against working people in this country, and have allowed our country to be hijacked by global corporations who have no allegiance to this country other than to ship its jobs and industries to fascist and communist dictators abroad who know how to keep their workers in their place. This is reality here. This is not show business. It's not celebrity politics. There are people suffering in this country, and we expect a great Presidency from Barack Obama, and we're gonna try to hold his feet to the fire..."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "I just wonder if, in hindsight, you wish you'd used a phrase other than Uncle Tom"?
Nader: "Not -- at all. Do you know what the historic...."
(Interrupted by Fox)
Fox News: "Fair enough. Thanks very much. We'll have a response from our panel in just a moment."
Nader: "Thank you..." [1]
It was like a wing at any speed and the front end would fold over your legs in a collision, it was an unstable vehicle early on.
Untrue DB. The Corvair was as safe as any car in the time period. Volkswagen, Renault. Simka, Fiats, and many other cars had rear engines and big, empty trunks in the front. Independant tests at the time showed the Corvair to be as safe as it's competitors.
It's funny how this discussion has transformed into a debate of whether or not a car is safe.
I'm going to admit I don't know much about cars, but I think the standard of safety is a subjective one. A motorcycle may seem dangerous to one but not to another. I don't consider those as 'lies' even if you don't agree with them.
If nothing else, Nader devoted his life into putting seat belts into our cars. For those rebles out there who don't want to, you can choose not to wear one. (Really, it's not too hard to fool the cops that you are.) Personally, I think it's a good thing my car has seatbelts.
I don't agree with Clinton's actions. Yet, if he was in town, I'd be interested in what he has to say.
I think some of you are being a little self-righteous and jumping into conclusions that Mr. Nader is all no-good and nothing he says is of importance.
I'm glad the notification of his attendance stirred up some debates. People do need to think and discuss more issues. Juan, despite how I disagree with you, I think you are very knowledgeable and may perhaps share your point of view of why you think Nader's documentary is 'full of lies'.
Anyway, I'm not one to control the thread. However, my initial point was nothing more than an event notification. I'd really like to see more people who would find it worthwhile.
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I'm going to admit I don't know much about cars, but I think the standard of safety is a subjective one. A motorcycle may seem dangerous to one but not to another. I don't consider those as 'lies' even if you don't agree with them.
If nothing else, Nader devoted his life into putting seat belts into our cars. For those rebles out there who don't want to, you can choose not to wear one. (Really, it's not too hard to fool the cops that you are.) Personally, I think it's a good thing my car has seatbelts.
I don't agree with Clinton's actions. Yet, if he was in town, I'd be interested in what he has to say.
I think some of you are being a little self-righteous and jumping into conclusions that Mr. Nader is all no-good and nothing he says is of importance.
I'm glad the notification of his attendance stirred up some debates. People do need to think and discuss more issues. Juan, despite how I disagree with you, I think you are very knowledgeable and may perhaps share your point of view of why you think Nader's documentary is 'full of lies'.
Anyway, I'm not one to control the thread. However, my initial point was nothing more than an event notification. I'd really like to see more people who would find it worthwhile.
- Tyler
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Blables.com
Nader killed them by convincing enough people that the Corvair was unsafe and that down the road somewhere at the worst possible time it was going to fall apart. This is from a man with no technical training at all. A man who wasn't qualified to judge any car. Nader made a name for himself as some kind of consumer advocate but if you look at his book and his record, he was mostly interested in how much money he could make. He went on numerous radio and TV shows to sell his BS but he always demanded the money up front.
