Radical Canadian Conservatives are NAZIs

[Karlin]

You are absolutely correct to point this out. There really are a lot of conservative -oriented people in Canada who have those qualites that equate them with Nazis.

I look at my own family and see that they are "nazi-like" in their beliefs:
- they hate Indians, and actually still call them smoked meat and blame them for a lot of their troubles. [its like blaming jews, it doesn't matter just as long as they have picked out a group to be the target]

- they say immigration is letting in the wrong people [i.e. brown skinned people].

- they believe in WHITES , they trust them more, and they see whites as the best people. They really do.

- as for Islam, it was not even taught as being one of the religion of the world in my small town school. My family would never condone a freindship with one of them... And if a Musilm were trying to succeed at anything, they would love to stop them.

Of course, it is all very quietly done. They never go around saying these things, and they don't express hatreds in any way, they just keep it close to their hearts.

I think these are the kinds of conservative peoplewith Nazi mindsets that Jersay and I agree are freely roaming throughout Canada. Right Jersay? [good post].

Karlin

PS - there is another typical trait common to these small c conservatives:
"following the corporate line", being "sellouts".
The connection? - brainwashed people who have bought into the American Dream Lifestyle. It all fits doesn't it?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Boy I tell you. It gets a little thin when the old race card gets thrown around. Canada is the most progressive Country in the world, but....... Ahhhhhh hell what's the point!

Your right, I'm a conservatibe, therefore I am a racist fascist who just happens to stick up for the Jews.

Madness.

 

[Finder]

Retired_Can_Soldier, I'd agree you are conservative but you don't appear to be a facsist or a racist my friend. Too many people here deal in absolutes, and I've seen you dabble in it as well from time to time.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Radical Canadian Cons

The Progressive Conservative party does not exist anymore it was destroyed by B Mulrooney, the present neo-conservative party bought the conservative title from Peter MacKay, this new party is essentially an exact replica of the neo-conservative republican part of the United States. Essentially it is corporatist and fundementalist christian, we are slowly begining to find this out.

 

[Finder]

So you think the old Conservative party was any better then the new one? Hell at least the new one is open to new idea's of democratic reform.

Also if you have seen how much the Provincial Progressive Conservative parties have changed in the last 10 years I really think you are fooling yourself that a name change has done all of this. The Conservatives have never been progressive, they just take populist idea's from the left now and then and add them to the conservative agenda in hopes in getting the middle class and some ignorant working class peoples to vote for them.

 

[Jersay]

Jersay bent over backwards to say Cons were not Nazis after he had planted the idea in his heading. "Radical Canadian Conservatives are NAZIs"
He could have left out Conservatives rather than associating them with Nazis.
Also Nazis and Liberals use toilet paper on occasion. Does that make them bedfellows?

To you what is a conservative??

NAZIS are Right-wing people, and conservative in a term lumps together people who are of a right-wing notion.

And I clearly said that radical conservatives. So unless you are a radical conservative (right-wing) and not the party then you have characteristics of a NAZI.

 

[bluealberta]

As a small-c conservative, and a large-C Conservative supporter, I have to tell you I am a little insulted by this topic.

I am not a fan of multicult simply because the cost is prohibitive, and, in my opinion, encourages ethnic groups to not become part of the main stream culture of Canada. In many cities, this has led to virtual ethnic ghettos, and, again in my opinion, has given rise to some of the gang violence. This is not to say that having different cultures in Canada is a bad thing, in fact, far from it and I support the encouragement of this philosophy. However, in coming to another country, I also think there is an inherent goal and responsibility of becoming more like the citizens of the country you are coming to, instead of bringing your way of living to our country, then expecting Canadian citizens to accomodate your culture at every turn. Anothers culture can become part of our country to the benefit of all of us, but not if it is forced on us. Not quite the right words, maybe, but I have a hard time putting this into words that make sense without coming across as something I am not.

Regarding Muslims, I understand the suspicion that this group comes under, and quite frankly, I have no suggestion on how to negate this suspicion. Perhaps if the mainstream Muslim community would be very vocal about the atrocities committed by other Muslims, all in the name of Allah, then that would help, but it seems the Muslim community is quick to rage about certain things (cartoons), but very silent on others (kidnappings and beheadings come to mind). Be as vocal about that as you are the cartoons, and you can be taken seriously. I am reminded of that saying shortly after 9-11: "Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim". Kinda hard to get around that one, sometimes.

I still am offended by the Nazi comparison, my philosophy is live and let live, respect me as you expect me to respect you, and get pissed about the things that make everyone mad, not just your group.

 

[Finder]

bluealberta, as you should be, as I would be offened by a thread which states. Radical Canadian NDPers are Communist or NDPers are communist.

Though I emphathize with you and agree with you I wouldn't mind if you remember how it feel to be called a fascist for being a conservative the next time you are trying to lump Democrats as extremist socialists or Communists. Faire enough?

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Radical Canadian Conservatives are NAZIs

WTF?

:lol:


No doubt....

 

[Finder]

Re: RE: Radical Canadian Conservatives are NAZIs

WTF?

:lol:


No doubt....

facsist.... heheheh J/k

 

[zoofer]

There really are a lot of conservative -oriented people in Canada who have those qualites that equate them with Nazis.

So oppostion to mass Multicult is Nazism? No need to throw in racism, bigotry and genocide. Nazism covers it all.

The Nazis almost killed all the European Jews. Who defends the Jews? Those damn "Nazi" Conservatives. Only a Saddamite can get his head around that one.
Look at Daniel Pipes Web Page.

America's Rude Islamists
Steven Emerson reports on the Islamic Thinkers Society (ITS) rally yesterday at the Israeli consulate in New York, celebrating the bombing in Tel Aviv on April 18, killing nine. The event featured such slogans as:

Israeli Zionists What do you say? The real Holocaust is on its way

The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real Holocaust is on its way!

Israel won't last long… Indeed, Allah will repeat the Holocaust right on the soil of Israel

No wonder they call you sons of apes and pigs because that's what you are.

May the FBI burn in Hell
CIA burn in Hell
Mossad burn in Hell
Homeland Security burn in hell!!

Islam will dominate the world

This is potentially an important event, for until now, American Islamists have mostly been polite, pretending to be loyal, forging alliances, working the system. This approach sometimes wins them an earful from their more impatient colleagues (I noted one such missive at "Cut the Apologetics, a Muslima Advises CAIR"), but rarely and obscurely so.

The rally yesterday could mark a turning point, when U.S.-based Islamists begin to divide into two, the polite and the rude, those trying to curry favor and those not caring at all what non-Muslims think.

Were that they case, one could see this development as positive, in that it facilitates Americans' understanding the true nature of Islamism; or negative, in that it shows the burgeoning confidence of Islamists, who no longer think they must work within the system. I am inclined to see it the latter way. (April 21, 2006)

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Media Admit: No Cartoons Because Fearful of Islamists

When asked why they did not publish the Danish cartoons of Muhammad, American media offered many high-minded reasons about mutual respect and the like, all of which begged the question why many of the same editors and producers thought it just fine to insult Jesus. But two outlets have come clean, admitting their intimidation.

First, the Boston Phoenix, a weekly, on Feb. 10, 2006, which listed the following as the first of three reasons not to publish the cartoons:

fear of retaliation from the international brotherhood of radical and bloodthirsty Islamists who seek to impose their will on those who do not believe as they do. This is, frankly, our primary reason for not publishing any of the images in question. Simply stated, we are being terrorized, and as deeply as we believe in the principles of free speech and a free press, we could not in good conscience place the men and women who work at the Phoenix and its related companies in physical jeopardy. As we feel forced, literally, to bend to maniacal pressure, this may be the darkest moment in our 40-year publishing history.

Using the Ultra Left's Nazi Conservative logic the Left must support these types. Watching the DEMS in action I wonder whose side they on.

 

[zoofer]

We all know that Nazi Rush don't we? Just look what he wants to do with illegal aliens.
But then maybe it is the ultra left pro Mexican border crashers who are the culprits.

The Limbaugh Laws
April 6, 2006

"All right, immigration proposals under discussion. Let me add mine to the mix. I want to call this proposal the Limbaugh Laws. Here they are.
First, if you immigrate to the United States of America, you must speak the native language.
You have to be a professional or an investor. We are not going to take unskilled workers. You will not be allowed.
There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your native language.
Foreigners will not have the right to vote, I don't care how long they are here, nor will they ever be allowed to hold political office.
According to the Limbaugh Laws, if you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled, ever, to welfare, to food stamps, or other government goodies.
You can come if you invest here, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If you don't have that amount of money, you can't come and invest. You have to stay home. If you do come and you want to buy land, okay, but we're going to restrict your options.
You will not be allowed to buy waterfront property in the United States. That will be reserved for citizens naturally born in this country.
In fact, as a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to property. These are the Limbaugh Laws. Another thing. You don't have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations, you cannot wave a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies, or you get sent home.
You're a foreigner. You shut your mouth or you get out, and if you come here illegally, you go straight to jail and we're going to hunt you down 'til we find you.
I can imagine many of you think that the Limbaugh Laws are pretty harsh. I imagine today some of you probably are going, "Yeah! Yeah!"
Well, let me tell you this, folks. Every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico, today. I just read you Mexican immigration law, almost verbatim. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans and others come here illegally, they protest in our streets, they get on our welfare program, and we have members of the United States Senate, both parties, doing handstands and back flips, going through every contortion possible to allow it to continue so that it doesn't make these people mad, resulting in votes against these linguini-spined populations.
This is more than a double standard. It is an indication of just how gutless people in charge in this country are to protect the identity of this country. They don't care about border security, I know the ports deal notwithstanding, but they're not doing a thing to shore up the border, because that might make somebody mad."

 

[Hank C]

I am just stating what I believe is occuring that there are a few people on the right side of the spectrum that are NAZIS. There are NEO-Nazis in United States, why not in Canada.

uh huh, I am sure there are extreme right wingers in Canada who share the same views as Nazi Germany. And I am sure there are extreme leftwingers in Canada who share the same views as islamic Terrorists. Nazis and terrorists, yup they are all scum.

Whats your point?

 

[Jersay]

Just pointing it out.

The NAZIs were never a big threat in 1924. But only nine years later they were in power.

 

[Jersay]

Hank I am sure there are radical left-wing guys who support 'terrorists' as well.

 

[Jay]

Other than not supporting multiculturalism I don't think you have much of a point at all. I always think of national socialists to be just that....socialists, and I haven't met a conservative socialist in awhile.

For the government to have a ministry of multiculturalism seems to me a bit strange in the free world. But then again when you send over half of your earnings to various governments in Canada I guess it isn’t so free after all.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123980015439719474&q=lazy+monday&pl=true

 

[Jersay]

A socialist is a socialist. I don't find a socialist a bad word. Now if you get into violent forms of Communism such as Stalinism or Maoisism then that is as bad as a NAZI.

But what does this do with the article at hand.

And Jay, meet Finder, Finder meet Jay.

 

[Jay]

I've met Finder already thanks.

 

[aeon]

Now, from what I have read in posts and stuff and doing research on some radical conservative groups and such in Canada, (not in America or Europe or anywhere else) so it doesn't apply there. Radical now I mean radical conservatives, are the same as radical socialists.

Radical socialists equal communists, while Radical Conservatives equal NAZIs or fascists.

Is Harper a NAZI? No.

But there is a segment of the Canadian population that are Nazis or what I call Neo-Nazis or fascists.

For example;

Hitler believed a traditional German race (Aryan) was the best. He hated Multiculturalism.

Some Conservative Canadian Nazis, support traditional Anglo-Saxon immigrants instead of other people and they also hate Multiculturalism.

NAZIs hated a religion or ethnic group of people, and blaming them for all of its problems and watches that group and if it slips up gets after that race or religion or whatever you want to call it.

That would be the Jewish.

In Canada, the Conservative Nazis are against Muslims or Islam. Blames it for everything. And watches it more closely than most.

Now Nazis tried to get everyone to support them even though they had their own clear group. Canada's NAZIs haven't yet.

Now don't think this is an attack on the Conservative party or any member in this forum, it is just discussing about radical conservative or right-wing people in Canada that would classify as NAZIs.

Damn well said.

 

[Jersay]

Thank you, and if people who are right wing are offended. Too bad.

I directed it at a small section of conservative (right-wing) society, conservative ideology is right-wing. So a small part of Canadian society, I didn't say Canada's politics or anyone on this forum are NAZIs.