Racist Scottish tourist attraction bans English tourists and smashes English items

[tracy]

Scotland and England are mixed, not just with eachother, but with other groups. Celts, Picts, Vikings, Romans, Saxons.... the list goes on and on. Even if I were to agree that Scotts and English haven't bred with eachother (which I don't), they were a mix already.

Look up a definition of race and it will say something about distinct physical characteristics (like hair color, skin color, eye color, bone structure, all of which are not significantly different between English and Scottish as a group even if it is between individuals) and it will say something about they've descended from a common lineage (which could be argued either way when it comes to English and Scottish, but it could also be used to say that my family is a race which is obviously absurd). It is a completely arbitrary man made definition and I have yet to see many accept that arbitrary definition to count "English" as a race.

I really don't understand why it is so offensive that English and Scottish be simply ethnic groups. I don't know why people want them to be so different from eachother when they really aren't all that different. What is the appeal of being a Race? If they are all races then we can just remove the words nationality and ethnicity from the English language because they are no longer needed. We can all just be races. Next time someone asks me my race, I'll say Canadian.... or maybe British Columbian.... or maybe even Kamloopsian.

 

[scratch]

Scotland and England are mixed, not just with eachother, but with other groups. Celts, Picts, Vikings, Romans, Saxons.... the list goes on and on. Even if I were to agree that Scotts and English haven't bred with eachother (which I don't), they were a mix already.

Look up a definition of race and it will say something about distinct physical characteristics (like hair color, skin color, eye color, bone structure, all of which are not significantly different between English and Scottish as a group even if it is between individuals) and it will say something about they've descended from a common lineage (which could be argued either way when it comes to English and Scottish, but it could also be used to say that my family is a race which is obviously absurd). It is a completely arbitrary man made definition and I have yet to see many accept that arbitrary definition to count "English" as a race.

I really don't understand why it is so offensive that English and Scottish be simply ethnic groups. I don't know why people want them to be so different from eachother when they really aren't all that different. What is the appeal of being a Race? If they are all races then we can just remove the words nationality and ethnicity from the English language because they are no longer needed. We can all just be races. Next time someone asks me my race, I'll say Canadian.... or maybe British Columbian.... or maybe even Kamloopsian.

`ach...there's the rub...`

 

[tracy]

I have a simpler idea. Instead of trying to define race, why don't we just look up the definition of "Scottish" and "English"? I'm betting you'll see words like "nation" "culture" "ethnic group", but seldom will you see "race".

 

[scratch]

I have a simpler idea. Instead of trying to define race, why don't we just look up the definition of "Scottish" and "English"? I'm betting you'll see words like "nation" "culture" "ethnic group", but seldom will you see "race".

Tracy,
I am not going to check.
For it is more than likely true.

regards,
scratch

 

[Zzarchov]

You seldom see Race defined outside of North America.

Race is by an large used as a catch all for mixed races (like white) to try and rail on other mixed races (like black) with whom both are intermixed.

There is no common lineage that all "black" people have, nor is there any common lineage that all "White" people have.

It is entirely possible to look and be "white" with no european heritage and equally possible to be "black" with no African heritage.

So I guess in your mind there is no such thing as racism?

Racism, according to the UN is discrimination based upon Race, Colour, National or Ethnic origin. This is for the very reason that different parts of the world see Race differently.

To the Germans, Races included such thing as German (Nordic), Slavic, Jewish etc, even though all are "White" to North Americans.

And off course the most important part is that according to British law, racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin"


Ergo:

Legally, to both the UN and more importantly to the UK, the nation this takes place in,

Yes, the event in question is blatantly racist.