Race for the Arctic

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no1important

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We do and those Americans best keep their paws off it. I saw a feature on the national yesterday about this and the mysterious subs that have been spotted. Any foreign sub should be treated as an act of aggression or war.
 
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Reverend Blair

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We can ask them to leave...that's pretty much it. Usually we could count on the backing of the international community, but everybody wants in there and we haven't been protecting our sovereignty. We need to start regular military patrols up there, then we can work through diplomatic channels to enforce our sovereignty. Once that happens, the US, Britain, France, and Russia (think that covers the usual suspects for this) will have to ask permission. We can say yes.
 
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Reverend Blair

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We can ask them to leave...that's pretty much it. Usually we could count on the backing of the international community, but everybody wants in there and we haven't been protecting our sovereignty. We need to start regular military patrols up there, then we can work through diplomatic channels to enforce our sovereignty. Once that happens, the US, Britain, France, and Russia (think that covers the usual suspects for this) will have to ask permission. We can say yes.
 
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Reverend Blair

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We can ask them to leave...that's pretty much it. Usually we could count on the backing of the international community, but everybody wants in there and we haven't been protecting our sovereignty. We need to start regular military patrols up there, then we can work through diplomatic channels to enforce our sovereignty. Once that happens, the US, Britain, France, and Russia (think that covers the usual suspects for this) will have to ask permission. We can say yes.
 
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Gabre34

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HAH. That's hilarious. What we should do, is simply to start mining the area, put part of our military there, and when they come by, we shoot a couple of rounds at them, to scare them off, and we tell them "THIS LAND IS OCCUPIED. GO AWAY OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU AGAIN" lol.

Seriously though, if the area didn't have any appreciable ressources and if I were PM of Canada, i'd give up my claim over the North Pole. No one lives there. Its frozen year-round. That area is useless and another country would be happy to have such, empty and cold land.

I'd let it go to anyone, exept the USA. They already have Alaska. If they had the North Pole they'd surely invade, someday or another.

Gabre34

NB: Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore. The UN is just something solely controled by the US and is of no appreciable help, as far as military issues are concerned.
If we want to keep this land, we will have to keep a somewhat large part of our military over there, and keep a constant watch over there.
 
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Gabre34

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Jan 3, 2005
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HAH. That's hilarious. What we should do, is simply to start mining the area, put part of our military there, and when they come by, we shoot a couple of rounds at them, to scare them off, and we tell them "THIS LAND IS OCCUPIED. GO AWAY OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU AGAIN" lol.

Seriously though, if the area didn't have any appreciable ressources and if I were PM of Canada, i'd give up my claim over the North Pole. No one lives there. Its frozen year-round. That area is useless and another country would be happy to have such, empty and cold land.

I'd let it go to anyone, exept the USA. They already have Alaska. If they had the North Pole they'd surely invade, someday or another.

Gabre34

NB: Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore. The UN is just something solely controled by the US and is of no appreciable help, as far as military issues are concerned.
If we want to keep this land, we will have to keep a somewhat large part of our military over there, and keep a constant watch over there.
 
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Gabre34

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Jan 3, 2005
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HAH. That's hilarious. What we should do, is simply to start mining the area, put part of our military there, and when they come by, we shoot a couple of rounds at them, to scare them off, and we tell them "THIS LAND IS OCCUPIED. GO AWAY OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU AGAIN" lol.

Seriously though, if the area didn't have any appreciable ressources and if I were PM of Canada, i'd give up my claim over the North Pole. No one lives there. Its frozen year-round. That area is useless and another country would be happy to have such, empty and cold land.

I'd let it go to anyone, exept the USA. They already have Alaska. If they had the North Pole they'd surely invade, someday or another.

Gabre34

NB: Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore. The UN is just something solely controled by the US and is of no appreciable help, as far as military issues are concerned.
If we want to keep this land, we will have to keep a somewhat large part of our military over there, and keep a constant watch over there.
 
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Reverend Blair

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Apr 3, 2004
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Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore.
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We do actually live in such a world, it's just that some countries have too much power. That's why I said, "We can say yes." It's possible we can get them to ask, but we don't have much choice in the answer we give.

The really stupid thing is that the oil in the north is becoming exploitable because of global warming. That's what this whole thing is about. Instead of the world taking a step back and saying, "Whoa, we don't want to burn anymore of that stuff," we are all racing for more of it. How stupid is the human race?
 
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Reverend Blair

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Apr 3, 2004
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Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore.
Click to expand...

We do actually live in such a world, it's just that some countries have too much power. That's why I said, "We can say yes." It's possible we can get them to ask, but we don't have much choice in the answer we give.

The really stupid thing is that the oil in the north is becoming exploitable because of global warming. That's what this whole thing is about. Instead of the world taking a step back and saying, "Whoa, we don't want to burn anymore of that stuff," we are all racing for more of it. How stupid is the human race?
 
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Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
Reverend Blair, unfortunetly we do not work in a world with "permissions" anymore.
Click to expand...

We do actually live in such a world, it's just that some countries have too much power. That's why I said, "We can say yes." It's possible we can get them to ask, but we don't have much choice in the answer we give.

The really stupid thing is that the oil in the north is becoming exploitable because of global warming. That's what this whole thing is about. Instead of the world taking a step back and saying, "Whoa, we don't want to burn anymore of that stuff," we are all racing for more of it. How stupid is the human race?
 
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Martin Le Acadien

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Re: RE: Race for the Arctic

no1important said:
It would be a declaration of war so then it would be open season on the invaders and any of the invading nations citizens that are in this country, wouldn't it?
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Only Military Forces under Geneva Convention may use "Force" against other Military Forces or irregulars.

Civilians are not usually considered as "armed hostiles" unless fighting as an irregular force.

Enemy civilians may be detained under diplomatic status but not mistreated. NonCombatants are to be isolated and detained for the duration.
 
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Martin Le Acadien

Electoral Member
Sep 29, 2004
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Province perdue du Canada, Louisian
Re: RE: Race for the Arctic

no1important said:
It would be a declaration of war so then it would be open season on the invaders and any of the invading nations citizens that are in this country, wouldn't it?
Click to expand...

Only Military Forces under Geneva Convention may use "Force" against other Military Forces or irregulars.

Civilians are not usually considered as "armed hostiles" unless fighting as an irregular force.

Enemy civilians may be detained under diplomatic status but not mistreated. NonCombatants are to be isolated and detained for the duration.
 
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