Questions about Quebec

[TenPenny]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

To give you some background on that story:

(I was living and working in Quebec for many months, and after about 2.5 months, I got really sick with a flu/cold/throat infection. It doesnt sound that bad -- but it was really bad, I could barely even walk! I went to a public walkin clinic and they asked for my health insurance card. I provided my Ontario Health Card, which did NOT go over well at all. Anyways, I got "no, we cant accept this", we need cash. After a couple minutes of bickering, I asked to see the head doctor. He came out at about 15 minutes of waiting. I demanded to receive health care covered by my province. Under the constitution I am entitled to global healthcare around the country. If they didnt see to me, I could; and would not hesitate to sue under the constitution.

Anyways, after some threats and bickering, they gave me a form to fill out so they could bill my host province (Ontario). I have heard of similar situations in hospitals - but have not had any problems there. By the way, the clinics are public facilities offered by the province of Quebec.)

To expand on that story, Quebec is well known by doctors elsewhere for paying the least for Medicare billings, or refusing to pay altogether, so you will often find, if you are a Quebecer, that you have trouble getting service in other parts of the country. That's because the doctor might have to fight for 6 months to get paid by Quebec for seeing you. Isn't Medicare great?

 

[Cyberm4n]

TenPenny, I replied to this scenario in a new thread at http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1025 since it's heading way off topic.


thanks

 

[Anna_nigma]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

It will be beyond extremely difficult should Quebec ever separate. I think some have this idealistic vision of how things will be but they have no real clue. Any instability in even a well established country can result in a great strain on the economy. They have always been recognized as a French society…but they still want more…regardless of how it will effect us ALL.

I already feel divided/separate to some extent. I was born in the east in Quebec but raised here in the west in BC…from one end to the other. My parents left there in 1969 right after I was born because of this same problem of Quebec wanting to separate. I have been back there visiting a few times since and still fail to understand it all.

Some over there say they do not want to hurt the rest of Canada. That it is about something for them and not against us. I think they should consider everyone involved and not just themselves. They cannot separate without hurting the rest of an entire nation but do they care about that or creating instability for 'us' as a whole, no. I do not mean to sound harsh but it seems like the ‘me’ syndrome.

I say if they want to separate my birth place from me and BC and the rest of this country, then expect No Help. Like children they will need to learn a hard lesson as they fall and struggle to gain respect from the rest of the world. A world that will only ever see them has those that tore Canada (a peace keeping country) apart!

We are world renown for been a multi-cultural country that can (for the most part) co-exist peacefully. I think it is a testament for the rest of the world to learn from and follow. However once again separatists refuse to see the bigger picture. This will never effect us as harshly as it will them...so good luck.

United WE stand...divided THEY fall.

~peace~

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Two letters I found interesting during the last time they attempted to separate…

To: All Separatists
Commentary - October 1, 1997
Regardless of what your separatist government officials say, you can forget about so-called 'sovereignty with association'. If you go, you SEPARATE. There will be no common currency, passports, defense, or other associations. You'll be on you own. After subsidizing you all these years, why in the world do you think we would want to be associated with you if you separate?
You will be required to pay off the full amount of your share of the national debt, and since it's ok for you to partition Canada, it will then be perfectly ok to partition the free (third-world) state of Quebec, for those people that want to stay in our Canada.
(If you bristle at the term 'third world', then take a walk around Montreal and count the closed store fronts. If you separate, who do you think is going to loan you money?)

 

[Chris]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Since it is voting time I went to blocquebecois.org and noticed there is no English no link or anything! Funny how the rest of Canada is forced to provide French on food and most official websites if not all government sire have a French version. This just proves that Quebec just cares about themselves. During the debates Mr. Gilles Duceppe continued to say "Quebec" while everyone else would say "Canada". I find it disgusting how somebody or party can not get along with the rest of the country. If you don’t like Canada then leave....simple, just like many people have done for many years from other countries to Canada...like England, China, Japan, Portugal, Italy. The immaturity that Quebec is showing is unbelievable. What’s next? Maybe all the Orientals in Vancouver will want to separate Vancouver from the rest of Canada?

 

[Numure]

The difference with the orientals, this is our land. And we can do as we please with it. Quite simple, non? We we're here, before you anglo-saxons. As for the bloc not offering an english link. that is their choice. They arnt obligated to, and do not need to offer an anglophone link. Did the reform party offer a french link? No. Good answer

As for Duccepe only speaking about Québec, well his parties mandate is just that! Québec! Not Canada.

 

[Chris]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Does the reform party have a french link you ask? Yeah it did. Why do you say no? Please post a link to the reforms website. Thanks

 

[researchok]

2.) Am I correct in understanding that as long as you have a sign in English, you have to have the sign in French as well, but the fonts have to be bigger on the French sign?, oh, and if you have a sign in French, you do not have to have the sign in English

We must do this to protect our language! Otherwise the Americans would not only take over our companys but they would also take over our language and with it our culture. I'm not sorry Francophones are harsh about this to Anglophones. It just has to be this way.

Please, don't blame the Americans for Quebecs language laws. There is enough of threat from Canadian anglophones.

It is worth noting that Quebec's elites have always made sure that THEIR kids were fluent in English an have always sent their kids to private schools to ensure just that.

I'm all for protecting the societe distincte that is Quebec. I'm also glad to see the Quebecois are learning english (and are not precluded from doing so, as was the case) and participating more in the global economy.

 

[Numure]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Does the reform party have a french link you ask? Yeah it did. Why do you say no? Please post a link to the reforms website. Thanks

The website they had, doesnt exist anymore. Remember, they merged with the Conservatives and the Alliance to form the new conservative party.

 

[steve]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

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[steve]

here are my predictions for tonight election

 

[steve]

liberal 95 seats
conservatives 115
bloc 60
npd 25 and 5 green

 

[Numure]

I have almost the same predictions, just maybe a 5-10 seat difference between the liberals and Conservatives.

 

[Chris]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Does the reform party have a french link you ask? Yeah it did. Why do you say no? Please post a link to the reforms website. Thanks

The website they had, doesnt exist anymore. Remember, they merged with the Conservatives and the Alliance to form the new conservative party.

Yes I remember that is why I asked you to post a link!

 

[Chris]

The difference with the orientals, this is our land. And we can do as we please with it. Quite simple, non? We we're here, before you anglo-saxons. As for the bloc not offering an english link. that is their choice. They arnt obligated to, and do not need to offer an anglophone link. Did the reform party offer a french link? No. Good answer

As for Duccepe only speaking about Québec, well his parties mandate is just that! Québec! Not Canada.

So the Native indians should be able to take quebec back if they wish? after all they were there before you, non?

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

The difference with the orientals, this is our land. And we can do as we please with it. Quite simple, non? We we're here, before you anglo-saxons.

So the Native indians should be able to take quebec back if they wish? after all they were there before you, non?

That is such an excellent point. I am curious to see the response. Funny, I hadn't even thought of the Natives in Quebec, what will happen to them if Quebec separates? Are they forced to go along for the ride or, yet again, give up what is theirs?

 

[Numure]

The difference with the orientals, this is our land. And we can do as we please with it. Quite simple, non? We we're here, before you anglo-saxons. As for the bloc not offering an english link. that is their choice. They arnt obligated to, and do not need to offer an anglophone link. Did the reform party offer a french link? No. Good answer

As for Duccepe only speaking about Québec, well his parties mandate is just that! Québec! Not Canada.

So the Native indians should be able to take quebec back if they wish? after all they were there before you, non?

They could also take back Canada, right? They deserve more respect then they have now from the federal goverment. They are pushed aside, and disrespected. I'm sure, the native, would have a bigger role, or place, in Québec. Right now, its not our juristiction, its Ottawa's.

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

I'm sure, the native, would have a bigger role, or place, in Québec.

I like to think this would be true. What is the general feeling amongst natives in Québec? Are they for or against separation?

 

[researchok]

I'm sure, the native, would have a bigger role, or place, in Québec.

I like to think this would be true. What is the general feeling amongst natives in Québec? Are they for or against separation?

I acn't say for sure, but historically, the sepatatistes have not made much of an impression on the aboriginal community.

A few years back, they had threatened to 'relieve' Quebec of much of it's territory if separation ever occured.

 

[Numure]

I'm sure, the native, would have a bigger role, or place, in Québec.

I like to think this would be true. What is the general feeling amongst natives in Québec? Are they for or against separation?

All communities besides the Mohawks (Iroquois), somewhat support our bid.

 

[researchok]

numure, when did that change? Seems I recall there was quite an aboriginal resentment to separation.