Questions about Quebec

[CozyBeaver]

fact of the matter is, Quebec wont last long as an independant country. If it ever happens, i bet you anything canada will cut off all ties. I dont want Quebec to seperate because it would hurt canada, anything that would hurt our great nation i will strongly oppose and i would be in support of any action to stop it with any means neccesary. Everyones entitled to their opinions, even traitors, hehe.

I do understand your arguement as well, Quebec has never really fit in with the rest of Canada, but i dont think seperation is the solution.

 

[Anonymous]

We don't want the sepration against somebody. We want it for us, because it's the only realistic way that will permit the quebec nation to growl at his maximal level.....culturally, socialy, economicly.

 

[Anonymous]

If Canada couldn't cut the ties....

if the does

1- they'll look pretty dump to all the rest of the world

2- Quebec is too important for Canada. It woyuld be against every rationality to close the barrier. Economicly talking....


FACT: Quebec have everything to be a healty indepenant country. Stop being foolish by saying the opposite. The ressource the dmeography, the land, the industry.....In fact, we would be a world leader country.

Separation is not the solution? We've tried everything. But the fact it's that the Canadian anwsrer always been NO to Québec.

 

[Numure]

fact of the matter is, Quebec wont last long as an independant country. If it ever happens, i bet you anything canada will cut off all ties. I dont want Quebec to seperate because it would hurt canada, anything that would hurt our great nation i will strongly oppose and i would be in support of any action to stop it with any means neccesary. Everyones entitled to their opinions, even traitors, hehe.

I do understand your arguement as well, Quebec has never really fit in with the rest of Canada, but i dont think seperation is the solution.

You sound very British like... If you go back a few centuries. What did you think they said about the US?

Fact is, we have everything we need to live and prosper as an independant Country. If that doesnt work, we will just Associate ourselves with France... Something similar to what Guadeloupe, Martinique and Cayenne have. But first and for most, Independance, is our only solution. Also, military action afterwards, would hurt Canada more then us. It would also be an illegal invasion. Expect France to interviens, as they have always been silent supporters of our Liberty.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I don't want Quebec to go, I think it would hurt Canada and Quebec in the long run. I'll be damned if it's worth fighting a war over though. We (Canadians, including Quebecois) are a pretty bright bunch and have managed to be pretty peaceful in spite of our differences.

If we start killing each other instead of negotiating, we will turn this country into our own little Eastern Europe. Not the brightest thing for us to do, is it?

In the end, you cannot force anybody to stay. You can reason with them and beg them and even threaten them, but you cannot force them to stay.

I hope Quebec does stay, and I'd want a lot of assurances for natives in Quebec if they do leave, but it is up to them.

 

[Numure]

Great point. Like I have said in other threads, the majority of people here are unsatisfied with the current model of Canada. It doesnt allow us to grow and prosper they way we want to. Canada needs to change, decentralise. When that happens, I won't be a seperatist anymore.

 

[CozyBeaver]

To put it simply, i think this issue isnt even worth arguing. I think most french canadians understand the importance of being part of Canada, and you wont ever get majority support. And im not talking about 50 to 60 percent, if you want to seperate, and avoid roits and political unrest, then you need at least 80-90 percent.

and im not British, im Canadian and damn proud of it.

 

[Shmad]

Most French Canadians understand that Canada is an important part of Quebec and more importantly that Quebec is a vital part of Canada.

A Canada without Quebec? A Quebec without Canada? I wouldn't want to begin to imagine it. Points are strong on either side of the arguement, but after weighing all the options and scenarios no one really comes out for the better.

 

[Numure]

To put it simply, i think this issue isnt even worth arguing. I think most french canadians understand the importance of being part of Canada, and you wont ever get majority support. And im not talking about 50 to 60 percent, if you want to seperate, and avoid roits and political unrest, then you need at least 80-90 percent.

and im not British, im Canadian and damn proud of it.

Even if its only 60%. The only people that will protest are anglophones, that I'm quite sure of.And stop calling me a French Canadian. I am not. I'm a Québécois. Something the majority of us wish to be called. Let it be seperatist or not.

Seperatist, are roughly 50% of the voting population. Nationalist, are 70-85%.

 

[T. Rex]

I agree with what that other fellow said about stopping Quebec if they went as far as to separate. Canada and our feds have put too much money into the province of Quebec to let it get away....... which brings me to my NEXT point.

DO YOU KNOW HOW WE IN THE WEST FEEL?? The government is always neglecting US. You think you have problems, come live in Alberta or BC for a while and you will see.

Ontario gets the say of the country and it's not fair, but thats how it always is. Ontario gets the vote that counts the most.

 

[Anonymous]

Cozybeaver

50%+ 1 is what the souverainist option should get to make the independance...


and....French canadian voted YES in a majority proportion..

and for T-Rex.....

You don't even know what your talking about.... The west alienation is rigth. I support it 100%. But to say that West having more problem with the federation than quebec.....it's just plainy ridiculous and idiot.

 

[Shmad]

Marc-a, try and do a little bit of research You'll see the West is in exactly the same boat as Quebec is, if not a little harder off.

Quebec gets federal kickback, the west gets very very little

 

[Andem]

Marc-a, try and do a little bit of research You'll see the West is in exactly the same boat as Quebec is, if not a little harder off.

Quebec gets federal kickback, the west gets very very little

Exactly! :canada: + :quebec: = Bright future if we stick together and vote a responsible government federally and provincially.

 

[Anonymous]

Brigth future if both nation could be able to discuss equal to equal....wich is impossible in that kind of federation.

 

[Numure]

That is the fundemental difference in Canada. The Federal Goverment and others provinces refuse to recognise that Québec is a Nation. Not a country, but a Nation. Negotiating Equal to Equal is the only solution. And in this current federal centralist model, neither side will ever be pleased.

 

[Anonymous]

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[Shmad]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Wow! What an educated opinion! :mumum: :angry6: :angry5: :angry4: :evil1:

 

[Numure]

move to france then you hoser

What does france have to do with this?

 

[Anonymous]

We can see the incredible level of argument of federalist

 

[Proud_Quebecer]

Re: Quebec; Some questions

Wow..I have just read all the talking here and i have enjoyed reading it every minute of it...

And i will say my point of view as a Quebecer ...biut for now i have only slept 2 hours on 62 cause of some kind of a bladder disease...and i really have to go..but will return with my point of views tomorrow...if i dont sleep..loll