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Well I find it kind of ironic that you use the natives in your example, when what we did to the natives is about 1000 times worse than anything Israel ever did. But let's actually make your model work.
Lets say natives about 70 years back decide that life on crappy reserves suck, so they start buy land at a common spot in quebec to join up a couple of reservers already there, there are a couple of tribal burial grounds there and they feel a tie to the land, it really takes off and most natives move to the new Quebec homeland buying up land. There is large unrest with the local non native population and there are fights and minor attempts to drive off the natives. Things are not great but nothing terrible happens yet.
Then there is a terrible holocaust in Austrailia and the aboriginal flee. No where in the world will accept the refugees. The natives figuring these are long separated Kin welcome them onto their land (that they purchased). The influx upsets the local non natives even more. Fighting escalates on both sides murders, bombings etc, a terrible situation.
World body decrees in exasperation that there will be a partition to split the land in the area so that each side can exist in its own space. The natives say ok, the local non natives and all of Canada says no way and the combined armies of 6 provinces attack in an attempt wipe out the natives. During the fighting the Canadians start a rumor to anger all Canadian and suggest that the natives are murdering the men, raping the women and eating the children. The lie backfires and instead of an uprizing large numbers of the local non natives flee. When the dust settles the natives prevail during the fight for their survival the have captured a chunk of new territory. For then next decade Natives all over Canada flee or are expelled from Canadian provinces them came to NewLand.
After the decade the Canadian provinces built up massive armies and were saber rattling for war. Americans have given financial aid to the plucky natives. They are after all a mere spec surrounded by enemies that try to destroy them. The Canadians expell peace keepers, and blocked native shipping lanes. Not waiting to be crushed the natives launched a pre emptive strike and again flattened the Canadian provincial armies.
In the years after the second stinging military failure, Canadian provinces again started the build up. As the crises approaches, The natives are warned, but new Chief Golden Hair, does not launch a pre-emptive strike. It is costly, the natives of new land are hit by a sneak attak on their holy day and suffer great initial losses, but in the end they again prevail striking deep into the Canadian provinces.
Finally after 3 miltary failures, terror is introduced as a weapon. The FLQ, Based in Quebec are the main fighters. Eventually the battling takes a high toll on Quebec, and civil war erupts, eventually leading to the expulsion of the FLQ to Ontario. Ontario then falls into civil war, with strings pulled by Saskatchewan. Natives goes to war to displace FLQ succeding at great cost to Ontario, for at time it occupies a buffer zone but disengages completely from Ontario, only to have a new organization SLQ funded by Saskatchewan fill the void. SLQ begin to stockpile arms.
Years go buy with skirmishes. Getting nowhere The natives withdraw from previous captured territories. Almost as soon as that they are attacked and from areas in the North by SLQ striking from the territories it abandoned 6 years before. In the south by the successors of the FLQ.
Again the natives must go to war to root out Terror fighters in Ontario in hopes of a few more years of relative calm while their enemies rebuild.
The natives never attacked to take land, three times the other Canadian provinces united to militarily wipe out the tiny band of natives, and in these conflicts not of their choosing they expanded their meager tiny chunk of Canada. Yet the rest of Canada seeths with hate. Many in the reset of the world don't understand why they shoot back when the small band of canadian that live next to their territory lauch rockets at their population centers.
elevennevele said:
Well I find it kind of ironic that you use the natives in your example, when what we did to the natives is about 1000 times worse than anything Israel ever did. But let's actually make your model work.
Lets say natives about 70 years back decide that life on crappy reserves suck, so they start buy land at a common spot in quebec to join up a couple of reservers already there, there are a couple of tribal burial grounds there and they feel a tie to the land, it really takes off and most natives move to the new Quebec homeland buying up land. There is large unrest with the local non native population and there are fights and minor attempts to drive off the natives. Things are not great but nothing terrible happens yet.
Then there is a terrible holocaust in Austrailia and the aboriginal flee. No where in the world will accept the refugees. The natives figuring these are long separated Kin welcome them onto their land (that they purchased). The influx upsets the local non natives even more. Fighting escalates on both sides murders, bombings etc, a terrible situation.
World body decrees in exasperation that there will be a partition to split the land in the area so that each side can exist in its own space. The natives say ok, the local non natives and all of Canada says no way and the combined armies of 6 provinces attack in an attempt wipe out the natives. During the fighting the Canadians start a rumor to anger all Canadian and suggest that the natives are murdering the men, raping the women and eating the children. The lie backfires and instead of an uprizing large numbers of the local non natives flee. When the dust settles the natives prevail during the fight for their survival the have captured a chunk of new territory. For then next decade Natives all over Canada flee or are expelled from Canadian provinces them came to NewLand.
After the decade the Canadian provinces built up massive armies and were saber rattling for war. Americans have given financial aid to the plucky natives. They are after all a mere spec surrounded by enemies that try to destroy them. The Canadians expell peace keepers, and blocked native shipping lanes. Not waiting to be crushed the natives launched a pre emptive strike and again flattened the Canadian provincial armies.
In the years after the second stinging military failure, Canadian provinces again started the build up. As the crises approaches, The natives are warned, but new Chief Golden Hair, does not launch a pre-emptive strike. It is costly, the natives of new land are hit by a sneak attak on their holy day and suffer great initial losses, but in the end they again prevail striking deep into the Canadian provinces.
Finally after 3 miltary failures, terror is introduced as a weapon. The FLQ, Based in Quebec are the main fighters. Eventually the battling takes a high toll on Quebec, and civil war erupts, eventually leading to the expulsion of the FLQ to Ontario. Ontario then falls into civil war, with strings pulled by Saskatchewan. Natives goes to war to displace FLQ succeding at great cost to Ontario, for at time it occupies a buffer zone but disengages completely from Ontario, only to have a new organization SLQ funded by Saskatchewan fill the void. SLQ begin to stockpile arms.
Years go buy with skirmishes. Getting nowhere The natives withdraw from previous captured territories. Almost as soon as that they are attacked and from areas in the North by SLQ striking from the territories it abandoned 6 years before. In the south by the successors of the FLQ.
Again the natives must go to war to root out Terror fighters in Ontario in hopes of a few more years of relative calm while their enemies rebuild.
The natives never attacked to take land, three times the other Canadian provinces united to militarily wipe out the tiny band of natives, and in these conflicts not of their choosing they expanded their meager tiny chunk of Canada. Yet the rest of Canada seeths with hate. Many in the reset of the world don't understand why they shoot back when the small band of canadian that live next to their territory lauch rockets at their population centers.
