Quebec Sucks

Numure

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Re: RE: Quebec Sucks

Rick van Opbergen said:
Beaner, do you know what the definition of race is? First: races do not exist among human beings, technically and genetically speaking. All humans are genetically so close to each other that you can not define people as belonging to a certain race. Skin color as defining "race" isn't an option either: there are black people who are genetically more similar to certain white people than to other black people, and vice versa. I once saw a documentary that showed a Serbian girl being more related to a Japanese girl than to a Greek girl, while Serbia and Greece are almost neigbors while Japan is thousands of miles away.
I completly agree.
 

DasFX

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Why do Canadians do this? Why do we attack one another and make generalizations about each other based on one or two people?

To have a post that states that the largest province, and all of its seven and a half million people suck is just wrong.

I've been to Quebec too many times to count, never have I had a problem. My French is okay; it has gotten better over the years. Some Quebecois are rude, some are arrogant, but there are people like that in Ontario too.

You can be against the separatist movement, and the Bloq and Parti Quebecois, but not everyone, those groups do not speak for all Quebecois.

I think time would be better spent if we tried to understand their concerns. If you really listen, you will find that they're desires, with respect to the federation, are quite similar to those in the west.

In terms of language, they are just trying to protect they're heritage. They're a founding nation of this country. We should respect the French. A lot of what makes our country different and distinct from the United States comes from French influences. They don't want to be totally anglicized just like Canadians don't want to be totally americanized.

C'mon folks, show some respect for your fellow citizens.
 
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so, I live in quebec, I have been here for three years, thanx to this beautiful province I now have a fuller appreciation for what life really is and am fully bilingual....I have big problems with quebec separatism....to me it seems to propogate racism....and it does...I have lived in most provinces and quebec, by far is the most racist province I have being to...two...quebec is a better society to live in...why are the french as arrogant to hog the culture and ideals to their own? Thats being typically white. The quebecors remind me of americans at times.....four....quebecors are no more french than acadians are quebecors...five...I belive that quebec has never formally signed the canadian constitution...if this is the case...why are they trying to separate when they already are? Why do ALL French people have this serious cultural identity issue......it is prevenlant here, in france, and in metis communities in manitoba...I find it ridiculous....

quebec separatism promotes racism and discrimination.
 

Proud_to_be_English

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I agree and wish that Quebec would separate. Then the English speaking vast majority could finally have one official language and not be governed mostly by foreignors from Quebec whos only intention is filling their own pockets and those of their french speaking friends with the money of the hard working English speaking majority (ie the Liberal Quebec advertising firms scandal). I am a resident of Fredericton, New Brunswick, a province that is currently under a blitzkrieg of anti-anglo bigotry and discrimination in the form of the acadian population controlling the government, creating segregated acadian schools etc. Yet one of the biggest selling-tools of the acadian minority in New Brunswick has been "linguistic equality". They are obviously not interested in equality of any kind, perhaps revenge for the expulsion of the acadians (which was conducted by the British, not NB's current English speaking population). For instance, there is an "acadian Day" in which they raise the acadian flag in Fredericton. But when this province Anglo-Society wishes to raise our flag it is deemed racist discrimination. Why? Is it racist to be proud of your language and history? No. The English speaking majorities of both Canada and NB must rise up above this tyrany before we see the likes of the quebec language police from coast to coast.
 

DasFX

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gnuman said:
Heck if you want to get rid of a provice get rid of Newfoundland. What are they good for besides Anne of Green Gables?

Newfoundland and Labrador have a lot to offer. They are in a transitional state right now moving away from a disappearing resource to more innovative industries. Just because it is a "have not" province today, doesn't mean it will be tomorrow. If one were to look at our history, one would see how power and prosperity has shifted from province to province.

Finally, any good Canadian knows that Anne of Green Gables is from Prince Edward Island.

People, if you want to learn about other regions or places in this country, don't listen to people on the internet, buy a plane/train/bus ticket and go there.
 

peapod

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I cannot believe that someone could actually say newfoundland has nothing to offer. What ignorance. It has to be one of the most interesting provinces in canada. Some of the best writing in this country is coming out of newfoundland. Most important of all they have the BEST sense of humor.
 

DasFX

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Proud_to_be_English said:
I agree and wish that Quebec would separate. Then the English speaking vast majority could finally have one official language and not be governed mostly by foreignors from Quebec.

If Quebec separates, we might as well say good-bye to Atlantic Canada. A country physically separated into two parts doesn't usually work out so well. So hoping for the separation of Quebec would be hoping for your province's own death. You would probably be taken up by the US.

Just as you dislike Quebec, many west of Quebec view Atlantic Canada as useless with a populace of unemployment drunk bums Don't think they (The West) will make special arrangements to accommodate people who aren't even connected to the rest of the nation.


What is wrong with having more than one official language? Switzerland has four and they seem to be doing just fine. Most people who dislike like other languages, French especially, don't like it because they aren't very bright and have trouble learning it.

As for having most of our elected officials from Quebec, how can that be? Quebec only has 75 seats in Ottawa and I don't see many Quebecois running in other parts of the country?
 

missile

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Why respond to such an under educated and silly bigot ? People like that yearn for the "good old days", when the French were kept "in their place" and the Orange Lodge ruled. Utter nonsense!
 

Proud_to_be_English

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"Uneducated and silly bigot". A typical uninformed assumption by an individual who obviously doesn't understand what is occurring in NB outside of SJ. In response to what DasFX had to say, I would gladly accept atlantic Canada as being a part of the USA much more than I would it being a part of quebec. At least then I would not have to listen to people such as yourselves who take not having french forced upon them for granted.
 

DasFX

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Re: RE: Quebec Sucks

Proud_to_be_English said:
"Uneducated and silly bigot". A typical uninformed assumption by an individual who obviously doesn't understand what is occurring in NB outside of SJ. In response to what DasFX had to say, I would gladly accept atlantic Canada as being a part of the USA much more than I would it being a part of quebec. At least then I would not have to listen to people such as yourselves who take not having french forced upon them for granted.

Well unfortunately for you most Maritimers would not like to be part of the States and become Americans. If you enjoy the way America works, why not go. Houlton, Maine is only 125km away. If you leave now, you could be there by noon to have a nice unilingual lunch, right before they ship you off to Iraq!

Could you explain how French is being forced on you? I've met lots of folks from New Brunswick and have traveled throughout the province, never have I heard these types of comments.
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Etobicoke

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Re: RE: Quebec Sucks

Proud_to_be_English said:
"Uneducated and silly bigot". A typical uninformed assumption by an individual who obviously doesn't understand what is occurring in NB outside of SJ. In response to what DasFX had to say, I would gladly accept atlantic Canada as being a part of the USA much more than I would it being a part of quebec. At least then I would not have to listen to people such as yourselves who take not having french forced upon them for granted.
Sorry I just wanted to inform you that all over Canada French is "forced" upon us as it is a mandatory subject in all provinces (at least to my knowledge correct me if I am wrong) just as English is "forced" upon francophone in Québec. Here in Toronto we have a very small French speaking community yet we have bilingual signs on the major hi-ways.. not that big of a deal. so if this is what you mean by forced upon you ... Well everyone is in the same boat as you, whether they are French or English speaking.
 

Gabre34

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Take this from a guy that lives in Quebec.


I think that Quebec is nothing but trouble in this wonderful country that is Canada. The language barrier is an obvious strain in the national economy. Politicians are forced to be perfectly bilingual, it is excessively hard for multiple companies to "establish" themselves in Quebec. For example, printing in English and French, after-sales service in English-French and various other issues.

I don't want to see Quebec seperating from Canada. The Quebecan populace simply don't know what they want and are clearly un-aware of the consequences that would occur after an eventual break-up in the Federation. As stated earlier, I am from Quebec and I actually reside there. I know what I am talking about.

My 2 cents
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jackd

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Gobre34:
1) Can you tell us how many Ministers in Ottawa (except those from Quebec) are bilingual?.. (not necessarily "perfectly" bilingual)Or give us a percentage of bilingual "anglophone" ministers.
2) Can you name only one company that decided not to sell its products in Quebec in account of the language barrier?
3)Could you expand on your comment...various other issues
 

no1important

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jackd said:
Gobre34:

2) Can you name only one company that decided not to sell its products in Quebec in account of the language barrier?

I thought everything here in Canada has to have both english/french on it products, no matter what province? I thought Trudeau made that the law?