Quebec Sucks

Prune

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Numure said:
Canada, was at the time, the name we we're given by the French. That name remained when the British invaded.
I stress the word invaded. Lands are the spoils of conquest. Separatists claiming Quebec is theirs is as ludicrous as Natives claiming North America is theirs. As to the French putting up a fight, BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 

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Welcome to the fourms Prune. You know how to make an entrance :p I truly admire that you speak your mind, even if I don't agree with it. I see you are a british columbian..figures :p Just one thing tho, I usually use the tag BWahahahahaha at the end of my sentences :p :wink:
 

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Re: RE: Quebec Sucks

Prune said:
Numure said:
Canada, was at the time, the name we we're given by the French. That name remained when the British invaded.
I stress the word invaded. Lands are the spoils of conquest. Separatists claiming Quebec is theirs is as ludicrous as Natives claiming North America is theirs. As to the French putting up a fight, BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

This is so true. It's the same thing with other parts of Canada, though. We're in the year 2004... Not pre-confederation.

IMHO, the natives have gained far more from "Canadians" (referring to original British/French/European immigrants) than they have lost in land.
 

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In case I have offended anyone here, I should clarify that often I'm only half serious, and have a tendency to play devil's advocate (not quite the same thing as a troll). The point is that a lot of arguments on politics and related touchy issues are quite silly, because frequently the wrong thing is being argued, and/or both sides have some implied assumptions that always go unquestioned and are in fact the core of the problem. As an example, the left wing/right wing antagonism is a false dichotomy. By that I do not merely refer to alternative parties, for even if they are taken into account, the core of the problem with modern political systems has much deeper theoretical roots. Specifically, I refer you guys to Kenneth Arrow's Nobel winning work on voting systems (Google for Arrow's Theorem), and the gross implications this has for democratic systems in general, along with other problems that were discussed as far back as ancient Greece (a good start is the faux-Xenophon's the Old Oligarch piece).
 

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QuebecSucks said:
Quebec Sucks ass! let them leave canada you will be better off.. when i visited quebec from australia last, they made fun of me because I couldnt speak some words properly, they are arrogant, smelly good for nothing whiners, and canada would be better without them!
:x Who's the one whiniing ? Seems to me that you are . So you can't speak french so what . I can't big friggin deal .
We may bitch about Quebec but ya know what . If something happened in that province by way of natural disaster all Canada would help . They have a distinct culture and I for one think it is great . Just because there is one bad apple in the bin doesn't mean they are all bad .
So tell some one who cares about what you think cause I sure as hell don't :x
 

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I currently live in Winnipeg, and have lived in Toronto and Ontario. I've visited almost every major city across this great land of ours. I went to French Immersion schools since I was in kindergarten and personally feel richer for the experience. For one, know other languages, especially related languages, gives one a greater knowledge of our own. Because of what I learned in school I can actually understand some written Spanish, German, Italian and other Latin based languages.

Now, besides these rather personal points, I think that yes, it is important for all Canadians to have at least a working knowledge of both languages because they are both official languages. And it's not just people in Quebec who speak French. Winnipeg has a very large French community. So does Nova Scotia. So do a lot of other provinces. Canada is a culteral melting pot. We are always so proud of that, and yet when it comes to dealing with this smorgus-board of people in our daily lives, we act as though we're being asked to eat whale testicles (no offence to anyone that actually DOES eat whale testicles). When does the acceptance and tolerance kick in?

And yes, everyone has had some negative experiences with someone of a different culture. So what? We've probably had more bad experiences with people of our own culture or race... we just dismiss those more easily.

I think that this forum thread is completely counter-productive to any sort of political resolution to these problems. This is simply a way to spread hate-crimes without a face to the name.

I agree with many of the previous posts - grow up, people. This country doesn't need any help in THIS particular direction.
 

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QuebecSucks said:
Quebec Sucks ass! let them leave canada you will be better off.. when i visited quebec from australia last, they made fun of me because I couldnt speak some words properly, they are arrogant, smelly good for nothing whiners, and canada would be better without them!
dudes this dude wuza guest and i can see why u cant say something like that about ur compatriots

CANADA RULEZ & QUEBEC STAYIN IN CANADA 2
 

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double 2 said:
QuebecSucks said:
Quebec Sucks ass! let them leave canada you will be better off.. when i visited quebec from australia last, they made fun of me because I couldnt speak some words properly, they are arrogant, smelly good for nothing whiners, and canada would be better without them!
:x Who's the one whiniing ? Seems to me that you are . So you can't speak french so what . I can't big friggin deal .
We may bitch about Quebec but ya know what . If something happened in that province by way of natural disaster all Canada would help . They have a distinct culture and I for one think it is great . Just because there is one bad apple in the bin doesn't mean they are all bad .
So tell some one who cares about what you think cause I sure as hell don't :x

I’m Sorry, But I have to agree with someone who is not a complete idiot, Quebec does suck, I mean If you don't want to be part of Canada, please move, but if you want to stay, please don't be so arrogant to others, Now I am not racist towards the French or any other race, but if Quebec Keeps whining, sniveling, and complaining, I Might just become a Quebec separatist just to see help them off!!
 

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Reverend Blair said:
I mean If you don't want to be part of Canada, please move, but if you want to stay, please don't be so arrogant to others,

How is that any different from the oil-patch separatists in Alberta?

I never said any thing about the oil patch separatists in Alberta, certainly i don't have a double standard on this issue, if certain people can't understand how great this country is than they should be free to leave instead of whining about how bad it is where they are. People complain about where they live but the truth is that no matter where you are in Canada, were not bad enough off to have to run away and become our own country.
 

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sj007 said:
Rick van Opbergen said:
Since when are the French a race?
since when r there any races?? they dont exist
the proof: if we were different races we couldent inbreed ok ok fairly graphic example but im sure u get it

No I’m not sure I get it, if the French are not a race that means that the Irish, Dutch, and Mexican, are not races either. The dictionary defines a race as a local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. What it sounds like you are saying is that different races cannot exist just because it is hard to inbreed , but this does not mean different races don't exist, I’m not sure if I got the meaning behind what you said, but if im in any way wrong please feel free to correct me.
 

Mediana

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Beaner said:
sj007 said:
Rick van Opbergen said:
Since when are the French a race?
since when r there any races?? they dont exist
the proof: if we were different races we couldent inbreed ok ok fairly graphic example but im sure u get it

No I’m not sure I get it, if the French are not a race that means that the Irish, Dutch, and Mexican, are not races either. The dictionary defines a race as a local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. What it sounds like you are saying is that different races cannot exist just because it is hard to inbreed , but this does not mean different races don't exist, I’m not sure if I got the meaning behind what you said, but if im in any way wrong please feel free to correct me.

Given the context of sj007's post, I'm fairly certain they mean to say "interbreed" instead of "inbreed"...
 

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Beaner, do you know what the definition of race is? First: races do not exist among human beings, technically and genetically speaking. All humans are genetically so close to each other that you can not define people as belonging to a certain race. Skin color as defining "race" isn't an option either: there are black people who are genetically more similar to certain white people than to other black people, and vice versa. I once saw a documentary that showed a Serbian girl being more related to a Japanese girl than to a Greek girl, while Serbia and Greece are almost neigbors while Japan is thousands of miles away.
 

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Somewhere I read that every living person on Earth can be traced back to 2 or 3 individuals at the beginning. Therefore, we really are all brothers and sisters and racial prejudices are inane.
 

Numure

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missile said:
Somewhere I read that every living person on Earth can be traced back to 2 or 3 individuals at the beginning. Therefore, we really are all brothers and sisters and racial prejudices are inane.
That is, impossible.