Quebec and Alberta Seperatism

[s_lone]

come on! Don't be foolish. There are practically no Quebecers who really think that... You are finding very bad reasons to despise seperatists.

Well, the guy who posted that was Quebecer, so I assumed he knew a little about what Quebecers think.[/quote]

I would be surprised he means what you think he means. In history courses we sometimes hear that French Canadians were sometimes called white niggers... that went for the Irish too... But this is in no kind of way a comparison with the history of Black American people.

Anyway, you can't judge Quebecers on the sayings of only one of them. I can assure you that nobody I know entertains these kind of thoughts.

 

[Doryman]

come on! Don't be foolish. There are practically no Quebecers who really think that... You are finding very bad reasons to despise seperatists.

Well, the guy who posted that was Quebecer, so I assumed he knew a little about what Quebecers think.

I would be surprised he means what you think he means. In history courses we sometimes hear that French Canadians were sometimes called white niggers... that went for the Irish too... But this is in no kind of way a comparison with the history of Black American people.

Anyway, you can't judge Quebecers on the sayings of only one of them. I can assure you that nobody I know entertains these kind of thoughts.[/quote]

I have honestly never heard that said. I know that the Irish were treated pretty poorly in the past, but I don't know if teh term "white nigger" was ever widely used. Strange.

 

[Colpy]

Actually, the reference comes from Pierre Vallieres autobiography "White Niggers of America". Vallieres was a early member of the FLQ, and served a prison term for a bombing sometime before 1970.

 

[Doryman]

Re: RE: Quebec and Alberta Seperatism

Actually, the reference comes from Pierre Vallieres autobiography "White Niggers of America". Vallieres was a early member of the FLQ, and served a prison term for a bombing sometime before 1970.

Ah, kind of thought it had it;s birth somewhere like that. I really didn't think any actual historians would invent such a term.

 

[Durgan]

Re: RE: Quebec and Alberta Seperatism

Actually, the reference comes from Pierre Vallieres autobiography "White Niggers of America". Vallieres was a early member of the FLQ, and served a prison term for a bombing sometime before 1970.

A good book. I got it when it first came out. The term as applied was quite appropiate. In fact, one of my daughters wrote an essay in Grade 13 on some labour relations and got an A, possiblyfor using the term White Nigger, which implies some-one working at a labouring job at poor pay.

Another book that describes old Quebec would be Two Solitudes about English owners and the Catholic Church in collusion exploiting Quebec labour.

The social books by Jack London describe the same thing about miserable exploitation of workers. in the US in early 1900.

Durgan.

 

[cub1c]

RE: Quebec and Alberta Se

I would like to remember all fellow Canadians that Canada has treated French Canadians as a second class citizen and inferior people for a very long period of time. The lost of this conception (in politics, because I'm aware it is not in the population) of French Canadians from English-Canada is very recent in Canada's history. Even today, French Canadians still aren't recognize as a Canada founding nation. Instead, we are the minority whose got to be protected by the majority all the time. It's called multiculturalism.

It's not a matter of who's superior than who or who was here first. It's a matter that we feel like an majority (and we are in Québec), but bound to be a minority for the rest of time and have the majority (English Canada) decide for us.