Detroit said:
No, you are wrong. How is it Americas responsibility tp make sure eveyone has food? Maybe you are the one that doesn't get it. I, as an American would rather have my tax dollars improving American instead of giving it to people that want me dead. This humanity you speak of........ it's a mirage. Why isn't anyone donating money to the starving people in Africa or talking about the killings in the Sudan?
Because Africa doesn't have any oil, and there are so many people like you who only care about what's in it for them. George Bush certainly doesn't care about Africa's starving. Much of the United States' contribution to Africa is in the form of birth control. How appalling. These people are alive and here now. They don't have clean water, but they have condoms. Not enough food but plenty of birth control pills. Fortunately, there are some individuals who do what they can for Africa. Oprah does a lot. John Denver did a great work before he left here. He will always hold a special place in my heart. Others may do their alms in secret.
Maybe these people want your kind dead because of your attitude which is apparently dangerous to them.
Detroit said:
Now you are speaking for God? How can you say God can't be pleased with this? Did he tell you that? Everything you've said is just your opinion, I think America hasn't gone far enough. North Korea, Iran etc. We shall not stop until we've killed all of those terrorist who want to destroy America.
I don't need to speak for God; He has already spoken for Himself: "Love your enemies, do good to those who spitefully use you; If you love Me, REALLY LOVE ME, feed my sheep; it is your responsibility to take care of the widows and orphans; go and sell what you have and give it to the poor; Thou shalt not kill; love your neighbor as yourself..." I could go on.
Detroit said:
Well I'm American and I'm pro-War, I'm anti-torture ( you don't know the defintion of torture, America doesn't use torture), I'm not anti or pro starvation. Stop having kids if you don't have enough food to feed them. I'm pro-humiliation if it saves LIFES!
I don't have any children, myself, but then I am sure you weren't talking to me. I believe somewhere you indicated you are Black. You wouldn't be related to Clarence Thomas, would you? I suppose you pulled yourself up by your own bootstraps and expect everyone else to do the same? It's hard to believe there are Black people in America who think America doesn't use torture or who don't understand what it means to be impoverished, misused and abused.
Detroit said:
Please post the links. I did a search on Google and wasn't able to find anything. I'm brainwashed by Bush? Bush is killing America with his dumb tax cuts and borrowing money, creating Trillions in debt. Trust me, I'm not deceived, I have my views and you have yours. I live in Detroit where the population is 87% African American and 9% Mexican American and I've NEVER EVER heard anyone say a vote agianst Bush is a vote agiasnt God. I've also never heard anyone say that God is in the White House. Where are you getting these quote from?
"...Killing America with his dumb tax cuts"
Man, I'm talking about lives and you are still going on about money!
I like to get facts and hear various viewpoints. I visit Republican forums, democratic forums, Black forums, Arian Nation and white supremacy forums, Iraqi forums, German forums, French... you get the idea. Why don't you visit the Black Planet forum? Look at the forum on politics. You will see those very statements there. As I recall, "A vote against Bush is a vote Against God" was the very subject of a thread that came out a few days before the election. You will see many threads where Black Christians are stating they believe it is more important to stop some gays from getting married than it is to stop a madman from killing our sons and daughters all because he's hell bent on revenge.
I really don't think you searched, because the information is readily available. A search for "Iraq sanctions" or "US embargo Iraq" will give many unhappy returns... but here are some links just the same. If nothing else, please look at
Kamal Dying, although I'm thinking nothing could make an impression in a heart of stone:
http://wiredheart.hispeed.com/apr03/ap_i_kamaldying.html
Kamal Dying - Iraq Under Embargo, Photography by Alan Pogue
http://www.nd.edu/~krocinst/ocpapers/abs_16_3.html
Morbidity and mortality among Iraqi Children from 1990 through 1998: Assessing the Impact of the Gulf War and Economic Sanctions by Richard Garfield, public health specialist at Columbia University
A Blog From Iraq:
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
Baghdad Burning
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/..._captives_in_iraq,_afghanistan,_and_elsewhere Torture Timeline
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6185393/site/newsweek/ House Speaker Dennis Hastert has introduced a bill requested by the Department of Homeland Security which will deport prisoners to countries where they can be legally tortured.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/25/leavitt.torture/
Government redefining torture - According to the government attorney, it would constitute "torture" if a sniper shoots a person in an artery, causing him to slowly bleed to death. But it would not count as "torture" if the sniper were to hit his target in the head, causing him to die instantly.
http://www.afsc.org/eyes/
Eyes Wide Open: An Exhibit on the Cost of the Iraq War : AFSC
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/24/politics/main645393.shtml
Campaign literature mailed by the Republican National Committee warns voters the Bible will be banned if "liberals" win in November.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/03/MOON.TMP
Bad Moon on the rise
Moon's followers see him as a new Messiah, the second coming of Christ, commissioned by Jesus Christ to complete the divine mission of establishing the Kingdom of God on earth. At least four longtime operatives of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church are on the federal payroll or getting government grants in the administration's Healthy Marriage Initiative and other "faith-based" programs.
