Prostitution in Canada?

kiwi55

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What are your thoughts on this? Some are in favour of legalizing others not so much. Personally I think it will be legalized just like pot. What are your though on this should prostitution be legalized in Canada or are you against it?

How should it be legalized?
 

JamesBondo

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the legal or illegal status of prostitution does not affect Hoid one iota so it is highly likely that his opinion is actually someone else's opinion.
 

White_Unifier

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What are your thoughts on this? Some are in favour of legalizing others not so much. Personally I think it will be legalized just like pot. What are your though on this should prostitution be legalized in Canada or are you against it?

How should it be legalized?

If we insisted on legalizing prostitution, I'd regulate it similarly to how Singapore regulates gambling both online and off, but I'd make the advertising rules even stricter so as to push the venue out of public sight.
 
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Jinentonix

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I could have sworn Ontario actually tinkered with the idea at some point. The aim was to legalize prostitution through escort services that were treated like the actual businesses they are. Picking someone up on a street corner was still illegal I believe. By using the escort services, the govt could keep track of employees working there and make sure they had regular medical checks as well as cut down on the abuse of those working the "trade". I believe another aim was by legalizing it, it would hopefully reduce the number of human trafficking victims for the sex trade in Ontario. I don't recall if it ever panned out or was just a trial run.
 

White_Unifier

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I could have sworn Ontario actually tinkered with the idea at some point. The aim was to legalize prostitution through escort services that were treated like the actual businesses they are. Picking someone up on a street corner was still illegal I believe. By using the escort services, the govt could keep track of employees working there and make sure they had regular medical checks as well as cut down on the abuse of those working the "trade". I believe another aim was by legalizing it, it would hopefully reduce the number of human trafficking victims for the sex trade in Ontario. I don't recall if it ever panned out or was just a trial run.

that's essentially how it operates in parts of Nevada and in Singapore among other places; but I find that approach insufficient. Given the harm it can cause, if we insist on legalizing it, we should ensure that there can be no promotion and that it's kept very much out of public sight.
 

White_Unifier

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It is legal. Locally they need a license.

Selling is legal, buying is not. I though both should be illegal; but if we can't have that, then let's at least criminalize buying.

That said, I disagree with jail term: waste of taxpayer dollars. I prefer the French model: heavy fines.
 

White_Unifier

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There is nothing illegal about going to a licensed pro.

Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act

It is a criminal offense in Canada to buy sex, and I agree with that. The only part I disagree with is a jail term: waste of money. It should just be a heavy fine instead like it is in France.

One problem with this is that it's hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt. That's why I favour making fornication itself a fine-able offence but with proper protections for the accused (such as the right to request an inquisitorial trial so as to deter police from making false claims).

Any taxpayer who wants to legalize prostitution should consider the following cocerning the economic cost of HIV in Canada:

'In sum, the direct health costs of HIV/AIDS in Canada in 1999 were $560 million. To this must be added another $40 million, mostly from the Canadian Strategy on HIV/AIDS, for prevention, research, support to national AIDS coalitions, aboriginal communities, correctional services and other supports to HIV/AIDS victims that are not included in the direct cost figures cited in Table 1.23 Total direct costs of HIV/AIDS are therefore about $600 million a year.'

'The proportion of indirect to direct costs is also greater in estimates of total cumulative illness costs, because indirect costs due to premature mortality continue to accumulate even when direct costs cease at the time of death. Thus Albert and Williams estimate the total economic burden of HIV/AIDS in Canada to date at $36.3 billion, of which
$29.9 billion are indirect costs and $6.4 billion are direct costs (a ratio of nearly 5:1). They also estimate the future economic burden associated with the current HIV population at $27.3 billion, (reflecting a 4% discount rate), of which $23.3 billion are indirect costs and $4 billion are direct costs, a ratio of nearly 6:1.'
http://www.gpiatlantic.org/pdf/health/costofaids.pdf
 

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Escorts already home deliver, are they supposed to bring a 6-pak? (I would have said debit machine but they probably have them)
 

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Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act

It is a criminal offense in Canada to buy sex, and I agree with that. The only part I disagree with is a jail term: waste of money. It should just be a heavy fine instead like it is in France.

One problem with this is that it's hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt. That's why I favour making fornication itself a fine-able offence but with proper protections for the accused (such as the right to request an inquisitorial trial so as to deter police from making false claims).

Any taxpayer who wants to legalize prostitution should consider the following cocerning the economic cost of HIV in Canada:

'In sum, the direct health costs of HIV/AIDS in Canada in 1999 were $560 million. To this must be added another $40 million, mostly from the Canadian Strategy on HIV/AIDS, for prevention, research, support to national AIDS coalitions, aboriginal communities, correctional services and other supports to HIV/AIDS victims that are not included in the direct cost figures cited in Table 1.23 Total direct costs of HIV/AIDS are therefore about $600 million a year.'

'The proportion of indirect to direct costs is also greater in estimates of total cumulative illness costs, because indirect costs due to premature mortality continue to accumulate even when direct costs cease at the time of death. Thus Albert and Williams estimate the total economic burden of HIV/AIDS in Canada to date at $36.3 billion, of which
$29.9 billion are indirect costs and $6.4 billion are direct costs (a ratio of nearly 5:1). They also estimate the future economic burden associated with the current HIV population at $27.3 billion, (reflecting a 4% discount rate), of which $23.3 billion are indirect costs and $4 billion are direct costs, a ratio of nearly 6:1.'
http://www.gpiatlantic.org/pdf/health/costofaids.pdf

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...rent-approaches-to-massage-parlours-1.2587572

4 year old news but it's province wide now.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1097552/adult-services-bylaw-saskatoon.pdf
 

White_Unifier

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No its not.

Implied consent and of no effect.

(2) The definition “offence” in section 183 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subparagraph (a)(lii):

(lii.1) 286.1 (obtaining sexual services for consideration),
Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act

I do find it confusing though that the law makes it an offense to buy but not to sell sex. Would this not make the seller guilty of incitement at least?