Pro Choice or Pro Life?

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I am against abortion per se, but if the unborn fetus is proven to have disabilities or other conditions it should be up to the individuals to decide its fate.
After all its the parents and siblings who spend 100's of thousands of dollars [Bill/ lost income IE] and the emotional distress, not the courts.
 

B00Mer

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People have a right to their bodies not the state. The state has no business telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies -

I bet you say that every time you strap your seat belt on. State/Provincail law to protect your body. ;-)

Killing yourself is also a crime, which the state imposes on all cistizens.

that they have to host a fetus and once a child is born they must be responsible for it.

Have you never heard of adoption? There are 1000's of families who can't have children, who would love to adopt.

It is turning them into breeding machines and making them vulnerable to exploitation.

Try taking responsibility for your actions. Christ, if as humans we can not control our sexual urges or at least take safe procautions, then we have no right to call ourselves humans... we are just animals.
 

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I'm pro-choice but against third term abortions. If you can hold on to it that long, the rest of the term isn't going to put you out too much.

More could be done to educate and far more support from parents and guardians should be mandatory.
 

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Though I am against abortion as a form of birth control, there will always be circumstances where it is necessary for medical or psychological reasons. I am not God, nor am I anyone's conscience. I am pro choice in that I would prefer to see a girl in trouble have a safe place to go. That is nobody's business but her own

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I'm no woman nor a girl. I may never understand and comprehend what might a woman go through an unwanted pregnancy under whatever circumstance they are at. Nonetheless, by no means do I support abortion.
I take life the serious matter. Life is not a choice but a must. If we'd have to make choice to die or to live, I'd prefer to live. I therefore believe even a physically or mentally disabled child to live despite whatever and whichever challenges might arise in their perhaps a hard life. If such challenges arise, it would be our responsibility to care and love whichever might their reaction be. Then again, we don't do that so I'd prefer to leave the matters of fetus's life to woman's decision because its easy and less worrisome in their future. After all, our lives and bodies are like a game where we can just remove (abortion) & add (plastic surgery--to change the way you look) or even start over again. lol.
 

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I'm no woman nor a girl. I may never understand and comprehend what might a woman go through an unwanted pregnancy under whatever circumstance they are at. Nonetheless, by no means do I support abortion.
I take life the serious matter. Life is not a choice but a must. If we'd have to make choice to die or to live, I'd prefer to live. I therefore believe even a physically or mentally disabled child to live despite whatever and whichever challenges might arise in their perhaps a hard life. If such challenges arise, it would be our responsibility to care and love whichever might their reaction be. Then again, we don't do that so I'd prefer to leave the matters of fetus's life to woman's decision because its easy and less worrisome in their future. After all, our lives and bodies are like a game where we can just remove (abortion) & add (plastic surgery--to change the way you look) or even start over again. lol.

That is your choice.;-)
 

Zzarchov

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I know many people who would choose different than you about life, I for one.

I would not choose to live (automatically) between life and death.

Its not like I won't die eventually anyways, quality of life is the important thing.
 

Scott Free

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I bet you say that every time you strap your seat belt on. State/Provincail law to protect your body. ;-)

I only just started wearing a seatbelt because my new car beeps if I don't. It has nothing to do with the government and there stupid laws.

Killing yourself is also a crime, which the state imposes on all cistizens.

I'm not a citizen, I'm a hostage being held by an elitist system which ignores liberty and enforces their draconian laws by the authority of violence.

Have you never heard of adoption? There are 1000's of families who can't have children, who would love to adopt.

If the mother would like to do that then fine but giving up a child for adoption isn't as simple a solution as you might imagine.

But who the hell are you to tell her she has to do that? What are you going to do if she doesn't? Hit her in the mouth? Slap her around a bit? Throw her in jail?

Try taking responsibility for your actions. Christ, if as humans we can not control our sexual urges or at least take safe procautions, then we have no right to call ourselves humans... we are just animals.

So if someone doesn't live up to your expectations they are an animal? 8O

Some people, especially young people, have very strong labitos complete with low boiling points. Nature made us that way because at the end of the day we are just animals.

I think the more savage animal is the arrogant one that thinks it should be able to order the other ones around.
 

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If the mother would like to do that then fine but giving up a child for adoption isn't as simple a solution as you might imagine.

But who the hell are you to tell her she has to do that? What are you going to do if she doesn't? Hit her in the mouth? Slap her around a bit? Throw her in jail?

Geez man.. maybe beat on you for being so ****ing stupid.


Obviously the woman has the choice to keep the baby or give the child up to a loving family that wants to adopt.

I mean what a stupid and childish response you gave.
 

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Geez man.. maybe beat on you for being so ****ing stupid.


Obviously the woman has the choice to keep the baby or give the child up to a loving family that wants to adopt.

I mean what a stupid and childish response you gave.

Whats the adoption rate on babies born with mental handicaps again?

People want to adopt healthy beautiful babies, they don't want to blanket adopt.

There is a reason Canada has over 20,000 kids that need adoption, its a myth there is a shortage of kids to adopt. There is a shortage of beautiful healthy newborns.
 
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Whats the adoption rate on babies born with mental handicaps again?

People want to adopt healthy beautiful babies, they don't want to blanket adopt.

There is a reason Canada has over 20,000 kids that need adoption, its a myth there is a shortage of kids to adopt. There is a shortage of beautiful healthy newborns.

I think most Anti-abortionists believe some fantasy family just waiting for dear old fresh born to pop out. Pity most kids end up in a foster home for the extra money and in a few cases ignored to the point of wishing they were never born.

Also, suicide isn't illegal. Sure it was when the Church was running the show but that's all but gone now.
 

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Geez man.. maybe beat on you for being so ****ing stupid.

If you take someones liberty away your committing an act of violence. Since you were condoning that I didn't know how far you would take your violence. I still don't. Instead of telling me what you'd do to women that violated your moral code you've chosen to threaten me.

You wouldn't happen to be a religionist? This kind of hypocrisy is very common in religion.
 

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Pro Life! I believe that the rights of the unborn start upon conception.

On a side note, I was joyed to hear that Cardinal Jean Claude Turcotte, the Archbishop of Montreal is returning his order of Canada in protest of Dr Deat ... er I mean Dr. Morgentaler's appointment.
 

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But who the hell are you to tell her she has to do that? What are you going to do if she doesn't? Hit her in the mouth? Slap her around a bit? Throw her in jail?

Scott Free you are the hypocritic , or did you forget your original post where you suggesting beating on women. WTF!!

So my remark;
Geez man.. maybe beat on you for being so ****ing stupid.

...was in response to your "silly" post. If you want to take it so person, then maybe you should put some lipstick on and look in the mirror.

oink...

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Obviously the woman has the choice to keep the baby or give the child up to a loving family that wants to adopt.

If a woman who would have chosen an early abortion was pressured into carrying the baby , and then 'just give it up for adoption', is such an easy thing to say, so so easy.
Those words, 'she should just give it up for adoption', anyone can say that, try doing
it, it could leave the mother with a mental scar that would never heal. This is a
full term baby, not a 8 wk embryo, huge huge difference.

By the time full term arrives, the mother is not going to give the baby away, it is not
easy at all, very very difficult, abortion isn't chosen because the mother doesn't like
babies, or thinks she wouldn't like her baby, she isn't in a position to care for her child,
has no money, or other reasons which are 'her business', and no one elses.
It is 'her' choice, and not anyone elses, especially some judgemental male, who has no
clue in the world what her position is, when she makes that decision. I've heard this
so many times, she is judged as though she is some kind of 'horrible' monster, for
choosing early abortion, this is her 'problem', let her make her 'decision', for herself.
 
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Talloola you are so right know one know what it is like until you have walked in the proverbial shoes. Life is about choices based on facts for each and everyone of us. .

I am pro-life for myself and I am pro-choice for anyone eles. I don't want the governements or anyone elses nose in my personal choices and I feel less than qualified to make that decision for anyone else. I wouldn't even try to make it for someone I loved. It may be selfish but I don't want that kind of responsibility .
 

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Scott Free you are the hypocritic , or did you forget your original post where you suggesting beating on women. WTF!!

So my remark;


...was in response to your "silly" post. If you want to take it so person, then maybe you should put some lipstick on and look in the mirror.

oink...

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Well, obviously your a complete idiot.
 
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