Prion Rogue Proteins Found In Unexpected Organs

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

It varies from species to species, but factory farming is basically a practice that keeps animals unduly confined, uses feeds that do not match the natural foods of an animal (cows aren't designed to digest animal proteins for instance), causes undue stress on the animals (that's mostly in hog and chicken farms) and involves large numbers of animals.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

It varies from species to species, but factory farming is basically a practice that keeps animals unduly confined, uses feeds that do not match the natural foods of an animal (cows aren't designed to digest animal proteins for instance), causes undue stress on the animals (that's mostly in hog and chicken farms) and involves large numbers of animals.

 

[marcarc]

www.factoryfarm.org

There really isn't much of a need to eat much meat, especially considering the amount of exercise the average canadian gets. If high cholesteral runs in your family, or in you, cutting out meat can lower your cholesteral as much as any statin drug. It's good for the environment, it's good for you. If you've ever known an animal for any length of time, you'll know it's good for them too. Vegetarian foods are almost as good now, if prepared right.

 

[marcarc]

www.factoryfarm.org

There really isn't much of a need to eat much meat, especially considering the amount of exercise the average canadian gets. If high cholesteral runs in your family, or in you, cutting out meat can lower your cholesteral as much as any statin drug. It's good for the environment, it's good for you. If you've ever known an animal for any length of time, you'll know it's good for them too. Vegetarian foods are almost as good now, if prepared right.

 

[marcarc]

www.factoryfarm.org

There really isn't much of a need to eat much meat, especially considering the amount of exercise the average canadian gets. If high cholesteral runs in your family, or in you, cutting out meat can lower your cholesteral as much as any statin drug. It's good for the environment, it's good for you. If you've ever known an animal for any length of time, you'll know it's good for them too. Vegetarian foods are almost as good now, if prepared right.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

I've named animals that ended up in my deep freeze, marcarc. It's something we grew up with. That being said, I'll bet there'd be a lot more vegetarians if everybody had to go and learn where their food actually comes from.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

I've named animals that ended up in my deep freeze, marcarc. It's something we grew up with. That being said, I'll bet there'd be a lot more vegetarians if everybody had to go and learn where their food actually comes from.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

I've named animals that ended up in my deep freeze, marcarc. It's something we grew up with. That being said, I'll bet there'd be a lot more vegetarians if everybody had to go and learn where their food actually comes from.

 

[marcarc]

Remind me not to become too close an acquantance

 

[marcarc]

Remind me not to become too close an acquantance

 

[marcarc]

Remind me not to become too close an acquantance

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

It's one of the realities of farm life. Something that goes along with it is just after you slaughter a steer you have these wonderful cuts of meat. As the year wears on you find yourself eating all those cheap cuts that nobody ever buys anymore...things that become patties at Mickey D's now.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

It's one of the realities of farm life. Something that goes along with it is just after you slaughter a steer you have these wonderful cuts of meat. As the year wears on you find yourself eating all those cheap cuts that nobody ever buys anymore...things that become patties at Mickey D's now.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

It's one of the realities of farm life. Something that goes along with it is just after you slaughter a steer you have these wonderful cuts of meat. As the year wears on you find yourself eating all those cheap cuts that nobody ever buys anymore...things that become patties at Mickey D's now.

 

[hayseed]

A few more thoughts: No one suggests sheep get scrapie from eating other sheep or deer CWD from eating other deer. The 140 cases of nvCJD in the UK are a sub total, the total numbers of CJD being not out of line from any other country. May be due to looking closer, just as I believe is the finding of BSE in Canada- looking closer. Don't forget meat and bone meal is organic,used to be used as fertilizer.This is another weird thing, in the UK most meat meal (90%) was being fed to pigs and poultry, yet it was cattle that suffered BSE, and people changed to eating more pork and chicken!! If it is true that the condition had been spreading for twenty years or more before being noticed , then the teenagers who had eaten the infected burgers are now forty or fifty years old. So where are the CJD victims?As to Not Noticed!! I may only be a hayseed but if a tonne of mad cow had bumped into me I think I would notice.Scientists have not solved the BSE problem,but I think they may have caused it.www.verymadcow.co.uk

 

[hayseed]

A few more thoughts: No one suggests sheep get scrapie from eating other sheep or deer CWD from eating other deer. The 140 cases of nvCJD in the UK are a sub total, the total numbers of CJD being not out of line from any other country. May be due to looking closer, just as I believe is the finding of BSE in Canada- looking closer. Don't forget meat and bone meal is organic,used to be used as fertilizer.This is another weird thing, in the UK most meat meal (90%) was being fed to pigs and poultry, yet it was cattle that suffered BSE, and people changed to eating more pork and chicken!! If it is true that the condition had been spreading for twenty years or more before being noticed , then the teenagers who had eaten the infected burgers are now forty or fifty years old. So where are the CJD victims?As to Not Noticed!! I may only be a hayseed but if a tonne of mad cow had bumped into me I think I would notice.Scientists have not solved the BSE problem,but I think they may have caused it.www.verymadcow.co.uk

 

[hayseed]

A few more thoughts: No one suggests sheep get scrapie from eating other sheep or deer CWD from eating other deer. The 140 cases of nvCJD in the UK are a sub total, the total numbers of CJD being not out of line from any other country. May be due to looking closer, just as I believe is the finding of BSE in Canada- looking closer. Don't forget meat and bone meal is organic,used to be used as fertilizer.This is another weird thing, in the UK most meat meal (90%) was being fed to pigs and poultry, yet it was cattle that suffered BSE, and people changed to eating more pork and chicken!! If it is true that the condition had been spreading for twenty years or more before being noticed , then the teenagers who had eaten the infected burgers are now forty or fifty years old. So where are the CJD victims?As to Not Noticed!! I may only be a hayseed but if a tonne of mad cow had bumped into me I think I would notice.Scientists have not solved the BSE problem,but I think they may have caused it.www.verymadcow.co.uk

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

Pigs and chickens are omnivorous and have been for a very long time, Hayseed. Their digestive systems are better developed to deal with pathogens from animal proteins. The problem with feeding them animal proteins is that cows can get their feed.

There have been connections made between scrapie in sheep and sheep grazing close to dead animals. It's never been scientifically proven, but the anecdotal evidence goes back a long way.

Which brings us to animal proteins being used as fertilizer. What happens if you fertilize your grazing land with infected material and the cows graze there before the material is fully broken down?

If you think about anthrax (the naturally occurring kind, not the kind George Bush mails to Democrats ;-)) the spores stay in the soil forever. A similar mechanism could also have a relation to the continued occurrence of BSE.

My personal feeling is that there is a low incidence of naturally occurring BSE but that our feeding practices allowed it to get out of control. Once it was fairly common in British beef it jumped to humans as CJD.

Something that really bother me is that most of the cattle who had BSE in Britain were holsteins...dairy cattle. Most of the cattle that Canada imported from Britain were also dairy cattle. They ended up mostly in southern Ontario. So how come all of our BSE cases are showing up in Alberta and only half of them have been in dairy cattle?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

Pigs and chickens are omnivorous and have been for a very long time, Hayseed. Their digestive systems are better developed to deal with pathogens from animal proteins. The problem with feeding them animal proteins is that cows can get their feed.

There have been connections made between scrapie in sheep and sheep grazing close to dead animals. It's never been scientifically proven, but the anecdotal evidence goes back a long way.

Which brings us to animal proteins being used as fertilizer. What happens if you fertilize your grazing land with infected material and the cows graze there before the material is fully broken down?

If you think about anthrax (the naturally occurring kind, not the kind George Bush mails to Democrats ;-)) the spores stay in the soil forever. A similar mechanism could also have a relation to the continued occurrence of BSE.

My personal feeling is that there is a low incidence of naturally occurring BSE but that our feeding practices allowed it to get out of control. Once it was fairly common in British beef it jumped to humans as CJD.

Something that really bother me is that most of the cattle who had BSE in Britain were holsteins...dairy cattle. Most of the cattle that Canada imported from Britain were also dairy cattle. They ended up mostly in southern Ontario. So how come all of our BSE cases are showing up in Alberta and only half of them have been in dairy cattle?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Prion Rogue Proteins

Pigs and chickens are omnivorous and have been for a very long time, Hayseed. Their digestive systems are better developed to deal with pathogens from animal proteins. The problem with feeding them animal proteins is that cows can get their feed.

There have been connections made between scrapie in sheep and sheep grazing close to dead animals. It's never been scientifically proven, but the anecdotal evidence goes back a long way.

Which brings us to animal proteins being used as fertilizer. What happens if you fertilize your grazing land with infected material and the cows graze there before the material is fully broken down?

If you think about anthrax (the naturally occurring kind, not the kind George Bush mails to Democrats ;-)) the spores stay in the soil forever. A similar mechanism could also have a relation to the continued occurrence of BSE.

My personal feeling is that there is a low incidence of naturally occurring BSE but that our feeding practices allowed it to get out of control. Once it was fairly common in British beef it jumped to humans as CJD.

Something that really bother me is that most of the cattle who had BSE in Britain were holsteins...dairy cattle. Most of the cattle that Canada imported from Britain were also dairy cattle. They ended up mostly in southern Ontario. So how come all of our BSE cases are showing up in Alberta and only half of them have been in dairy cattle?