Pot busts surge in some cities now that decriminalization bill's dead

[Dreadful Nonsense]

Originally Posted by Walter
When I was more stupid than I am now, that is when I was younger, I smoked some pot. I always knew it was illegal and I never carried it with me. I always let some mule friend of mine carry it if we were going to a party. It is still illegal and I don't miss it one bit. If you can't take the punishment don't do the crime.

So if the government made a new law that says: no one can allow people with blue eyes to live and it is now your duty to go out and kill all those in your house, work and neighbourhood with blue eyes, that you are going to pick up the axe and obey the law lest you pay the price by first killing your family and then killing yourself?

this line of thought is completly lost on me....WTF was that!!!!!

It's weed...it's part of our culture now , specially out in lotus land....
I don't think it's good for you....niether is alcohol...blah blah blha....
I would rather see weed abuse rather than alcohol , for those that need to abuse these things.....

Grow ops are uber dangerous for gun play does come in effect at times....they ruin the property with mold.....there are tons of apartments unusuable now in Toronto because of it.Mold problems..it's not healthy to grow this stuff this way......

 

[bluecollarguy]

One point that I think many are missing is that in that last few years Organized Criminals have become involved in the growing of pot. It isn't the guy growing in his basement anymore. Whole houses being converted for the production.
If Decriminalization or Legalization were to become a reality it would take some money and power away from these criminals. You wouldn't hear about home invasions occurring because someone has a grow-op. And it would free up resources and funds to deal with more important issues.
Our courts wouldn't be bogged down with people being charged with something at most should be a minor offence. And there is also the possibility of regulation and tax revenue.
This is less harmful then alcohol and we all need to adjust our thoughts to this idea and get our priorities straight.
These laws are antiquated and should be scraped.

 

[Twila]

What peeves me is those who knowingly break the law then whine about it.

to "Whine about it" would be an interpretation. Had Rosa Parks obeyed the law and sat at the back of the bus instead of the front where would our society be now?

 

[Unforgiven]

Hi Dave, nice to meet you. You've got it right, and the big market in the US is what places organized crime in a position to capitalize on production. It's well worth it to have some Asian house sit the crop and when he gets busted, there will have been dozens of crops that pay for any measly fines or compensate for some short prison stay. The later of course can be used to learn how to make Crystal Meth or a variation.

Uneducated people continue to link organized crime to drugs in thinking that if they just get tough on the end user, the problem will be resolved. Nothing could be further from the truth. Facts are facts and the more we look at it the more we can see harm reduction is the smart way to go to have the best impact for the buck.

But there is always a group of people who have no problem lying to justify a budget based on false data and fear mongering. Most people wouldn't know what makes a grow op to start with. Let alone how to stop them from being profitable.

One point that I think many are missing is that in that last few years Organized Criminals have become involved in the growing of pot. It isn't the guy growing in his basement anymore. Whole houses being converted for the production.
If Decriminalization or Legalization were to become a reality it would take some money and power away from these criminals. You wouldn't hear about home invasions occurring because someone has a grow-op. And it would free up resources and funds to deal with more important issues.
Our courts wouldn't be bogged down with people being charged with something at most should be a minor offence. And there is also the possibility of regulation and tax revenue.
This is less harmful then alcohol and we all need to adjust our thoughts to this idea and get our priorities straight.
These laws are antiquated and should be scraped.

 

[Dreadful Nonsense]

I think it's our govt. that is doing all the linking of drugs to organized crime....Actually creating the link....

yup harm reduction to put it mildly....

I remember that last great so called statesman(puke), yeah he was a conservative lier, Joe Clark, used it as an election promise...out and out legalise it if he got in...not a mention of it afterward.....

I'm sick of the crime and loss of revenue weed is.....Hell i don't smoke it but I would like to see some benefit from it....

All i get now is crime and a part of society that uses it think they are doing bad so why not just shoot up...No i'm not some reefer madness clown that thinks it leads to harder drugs....But kids get the wrong ideas.If they feel they are doing bad then why not do bad....whats the diff?...kids need to be properly educated....we don't even teach them how to drink responsably cause big biz would rather them guzzle it....whole other story...not really...

anywho.....
It's in the wrong hands and it stinks....

 

[Dreadful Nonsense]

to "Whine about it" would be an interpretation. Had Rosa Parks obeyed the law and sat at the back of the bus instead of the front where would our society be now?

Good ananolgy.We are way beyond this thing being an underground drug.It'sa pretty much everyone is sitting where they want to.. but it wasn't always so.


I really believe that the liberals given the power again will legalize it.
Just taking away the penalty for use is lame.
The whole fear that everyone will smoke it and become pot heads is lame as well for most people are not drunk.

I say again . It's in the wrong hands and it stinks.
It burns me:angryfire: when people with little desire for anything dictate how we should live.

 

[bluecollarguy]

Decriminalize pot: Campbell

B.C. senator and ex-mayor says possession should result in fine

Possession of marijuana should result in a fine, not a criminal record, says Sen. Larry Campbell.
"If we're going to call people who have smoked pot criminals, half the country would be criminals," Campbell, a former Vancouver mayor, coroner and RCMP drug cop, said yesterday. "We don't see marijuana users going around beating and robbing people. They don't fit the criminal profile but there's a criminal stigma attached that means people can't get into the States."

"We should take over the growing side. That's the problem. Legalize it, tax the hell out of it and put the money into health care," he said. "Do the over 600,000 Canadians who currently have criminal records for cannabis possession really deserve such a label? This number represents teachers, lawyers, doctors and parents who make daily contributions to our society and yet are labeled as unsavoury when they cross the border."

These are some comments from Sen. Larry Campbell. Printed in the Vancouver Province July 11/07
I think that the issue is worth a second look.