Post Katrina- Disaster updates.

Martin Le Acadien

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Gov. Blanco was on tonight's news telling how she wanted dignity for Louisiana dead citizens. FEMA hasn't even signed a contract for someone to handle the remains so she signed it and will pay it out of STATE FUNDS.

The reason for the lack of coverage of corpse removal, it might be someone you know or a house or neighbourhood you are familiar with. State Police now have a detail trying to locate next of kin and inform them as to give the relatives some sembalance of dignity.
 

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The exploitation of Hurricane Katrina: remaking New Orleans for the rich
By Joseph Kay and Barry Grey
14 September 2005
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Even as the grim task of locating bodies and counting the dead continues, it is already clear that whatever reconstruction effort is mounted in New Orleans, it will be geared entirely to advancing the interests of the city’s elite and the profits of corporations across the country.

Of the hundreds of thousands of displaced people—the estimates range from 400,000 to 1 million—who have lost their homes and their jobs, the majority will never return. The press has begun speaking of them as the new Okies, recalling the mass migration of small farmers and rural workers who were uprooted from the Plains states by the “Dust Bowl” drought of the 1930s.

The overwhelmingly working class and poor ranks of evacuees have been scattered around the country, in many cases shipped off to remote regions where they are cut off from friends and family. Such was the incompetence and indifference of the authorities that many of those flooded out of New Orleans were not even informed where they were being taken to.

What is being envisioned for a “new” New Orleans was summed up by Joel Garreau, an editor and reporter for the Washington Post, who published a comment on September 11, entitled, “A Sad Truth: Cities Aren’t Forever.”

Garreau wrote: “The city of New Orleans is not going to be rebuilt.... The tourist neighborhoods? The ancient parts from the French Quarter to the Garden District on that slim crescent of relatively high ground near the river? Yes, they will be restored. The airport and the convention center? Yes, those too. But the far larger swath—the real New Orleans where the tourists don’t go, the part that Katrina turned into a toxic soup bowl, its population of 400,000 scattered to the waves? Not so much.”

Garreau continued: “There are a lot of black and poor people who are not going to return to New Orleans any more than Okies did to the Dust Bowl.”

The hurricane and its immediate aftermath revealed in the starkest terms the social chasm between the wealthy few and the masses of working people that is the most essential feature of American society. It also revealed how completely the government—at all levels—functions as the instrument of the financial elite, starving the social infrastructure of resources, slashing wages and social programs in order to finance tax windfalls for the rich. The Hurricane Katrina disaster was a tragic result of the systematic plundering of society to further swell the coffers of the American plutocracy.

The same social dynamic is now at work in the so-called “reconstruction” of the cities devastated by Katrina. If anything, the descent of the American capitalist elite into manic greed and outright criminality is more grotesquely on display in this phase of the disaster than in the first two weeks after the storm.

When not obliged to give out for public consumption declarations of sympathy and concern, not a few politicians and corporate movers and shakers are rubbing their hands and gloating over the prospects for turning the human calamity into a new source of personal enrichment—at public expense. Among themselves, they speak of the obliteration of Gulf Coast towns and the drowning of New Orleans as an opportunity to rid the region of the poor and turn it into a Mecca for wealthy residents and tourists.

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Representative Richard Baker, a 10-term Republican from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, told a group of lobbyists, “We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn’t do it, but God did.”

Baker’s comments echoed those of Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, who declared on September 1, “It looks like a lot of that place [New Orleans] could be bulldozed.”

Brent Warr, the mayor of Gulfport, Mississippi, where the storm obliterated entire blocks and took scores of lives, was quoted in the September 12 New York Times as saying, “Property values are going to skyrocket here. All the unattractive stuff has been blown away.... We have an opportunity now to make it an absolutely unique place. God has come in and wiped the slate clean for us.”

Within storm-ravaged New Orleans itself, the class divide in America is seen in the contrast between the fate of the working class, and their treatment by the authorities, and that of the city’s patricians. More than two weeks after the hurricane hit, and days after state and local officials announced a mandatory evacuation, not a few members of the city’s elite remain camped out in their gated mansions, feasting, according to press reports, on jumbo shrimp and fine wine. Rifles and shotguns at hand, they are further protected by hired guards, including Blackwater mercenaries returned from stints in Iraq.

The US military, National Guard and police patrol their neighborhoods—not to roust them out, seize their weapons and arrest them, as is the practice with working class and poor holdouts in the city—but to guarantee that their property remains intact.

Describing the conditions of some of the rich who have chosen to remain in the city, the Wall Street Journal reported on September 8: “The power elite of New Orleans—whether they are still in the city or have moved temporarily to enclaves such as Destin, Fla., and Vail, Colo.—insist the remade city won’t simply restore the old order. New Orleans before the flood was burdened by a teeming underclass, substandard schools and a high crime rate. The city has few corporate headquarters. The new city must be something different, [James] Reiss says, with better services and fewer poor people.”

James Reiss, according to the Journal, is a “descendant of an old-line Uptown family” who “fled Hurricane Katrina just before the storm and returned soon afterward by private helicopter.” He “helicoptered in an Israeli security company to guard his Audubon house and those of his neighbors,” the Journal notes.

That the outlook expressed by Reiss is shared by Democratic as well as Republican officials is underscored by Reiss’s role as chairman of the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority in the administration of Mayor Ray Nagin, a Democrat. Nagin, a former executive at Cox Communications, is a representative of the small and wealthy elite within the black population of New Orleans.

Already, real estate developers, construction firms and speculators have descended on New Orleans like vultures. They are securing choice no-bid, cost-plus government contracts and exploiting the pool of cheap labor guaranteed by President Bush’s suspension in parts of the South of the Davis-Bacon Act, which requires federally financed employers to pay the prevailing local wage to their workers.

Those companies reaping the fattest contracts include Halliburton, formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, and others with close links to the Bush administration. Even the bourgeois press has noted the similarity between the profiteering and cronyism already evident in the “recovery and reconstruction” effort in New Orleans and the massive corruption that has characterized the so-called “rebuilding” of Iraq.

Former Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has been brought forward to appear on television news shows and argue in the press for the establishment of a “Zone of Recovery, Reconstruction and Prosperity” in the storm-hit region. He echoes the calls in the Wall Street Journal and other organs of big business to turn the region into an “enterprise zone” where business will be freed of all regulations and allowed to make super-profits on the basis of the super-exploitation of workers.

All of this will be financed with public funds, and there have already been calls from within Congress for allocations for the Gulf Coast to be offset by cuts in other federal programs.

The analogies to the Okies and the Dust Bowl in the press implicitly raise social issues with vast repercussions. The profound historical and political questions are almost universally ignored in the media accounts.

A comparison of the two mass migrations says much about the present state of American society. Beginning in 1930 and lasting until the early 1940s, a massive drought plagued much of the Southwest in the US, leading to a series of dust storms that forced hundreds of thousands, and perhaps as many as 2 million, to flee their homes and farms. These migrants became known as Okies because many were from the state of Oklahoma, where 15 percent of the population left.

The Dust Bowl was part of a social disaster that fed into the Great Depression. The economic breakdown compounded by natural disaster discredited capitalism in the eyes of millions of Americans, and precipitated a massive political radicalization and the eruption of explosive class struggles.

In the 1930s, this led, under the administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, to a series of federal initiatives—public works, the Tennessee Valley Authority—and benefit programs such as Social Security. Fearful of the threat of social revolution—which had been realized in Russia less than two decades before and was foreshadowed in the radicalization of the American working class—the section of the American ruling class represented by Roosevelt saw the need to make certain concessions to the demands of workers in order to contain class antagonisms.

But American capitalism, even in the depths of the Depression, was in a far stronger position to pursue such a policy than it is today. Then, the US was the dominant industrial and financial power in the world, and there was a certain constituency—although a minority—within the ruling class for a policy of social reform.

Today, the global economic position of American capitalism is immensely weaker than in the heyday of American-style mass production. The US is beset by economic contradictions for which it has no answers. It is the world’s largest debtor nation, and continues to pile up huge budget, trade and balance of payments deficits.

The collapse of the anti-flood system in New Orleans and the utter incompetence of the government response have revealed to a shocked world the enormous decay in the underlying physical and social infrastructure of the United States.

The decline in the global position of American capitalism has been accompanied by a vast political, intellectual and moral decay within the ruling elite itself. The most backward, predatory and criminal elements have risen to the top. The breakup of the Soviet Union and the collapse of the trade unions have created conditions in which the American oligarchy feels itself unconstrained. It sees a window of opportunity to roll back and destroy all of the social gains made by the working class over the previous century.

Nor is there any significant liberal intelligentsia that criticizes the profit system and seeks to rein in its worse excesses.

Hurricane Katrina has exposed the disastrous consequences of decades of policies pursued by both parties in the United States: deregulation, the dismantling of programs to shore up the infrastructure and deal with social problems, the funneling of vast amounts of money to plutocrats whose fortunes surpass anything seen in previous modern history.

In the wake of the disaster, the overwhelming response from the ruling elite is to continue its policy of economic plunder—indeed, to exploit the tragedy to establish new beachheads for its own enrichment.

These experiences will have a deep and lasting impact on public consciousness, leading to a new period of mass social struggles. What is essential is that the working class draw the central lessons of Hurricane Katrina. The failure of all of the official institutions of American society in the disaster is rooted in the failure of the profit system itself.
 

Martin Le Acadien

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New Orleans has had it share of ebbs and flows, in 1840 it was one of the biggest cities in the US but dwindled after the civil war (1861-1865) (Occupied by the Union in 1862) and almost fell off the map! New Orleans has been losing population to the Northshore and Jefferson Parish since the early 1970's and the oil bust of 1986 and the subsequent leaving by major oil cos district offices has left visible hole in the economy of New Orleans.

The tourism and service industries relied upon the cheap labor of the New Orleans locals! with the relocation to other cities, the realization that many may choose not to return home is that wages are hight in other parts of the country! The Uptown High Society depended upon that cheap labor and with it gone, they will find their livestyle stymied by a lack of cheap non-union labor!

In 1927, one of the reasons Red Cross was pressured not to evacuate the Black Families living on the Mississippi River Levees and High land in the Delta was that once the people went somewhere else, the cheap labor was gone!

The reason so many people wanted to stay in New Orleans over the years is that whole families lived in neighbourhoods and everybody knew everyone. Hell, knew just about everyone in a region of the city and you best not act up or your mother knew about your shenanigans before you got home!

Sadly, thats the closeness thats being killed.

With the Plantation Mentatlity, those high society folks are going to have a hell of a time making money off of the unionized labor in the chemical plants and refineries!


Stay Tuned
 

Martin Le Acadien

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Re: RE: Post Katrina- Disaste

no1important said:
One reason for so much poverty could be that Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana have no minimum wage law.

Source

Sorry to burst you r bubble, but this map only shows where the minimum wage is different than federal law, the base min is 5.15 but some states have a lower wage where Federal law raises it to 5.15 and where the state (Louisiana for instance) does not specify, the federal law takes precedence. An industry only has to have a gross revenue of $250,000 per year or be engaged in interstate commerce to come under Federal Law. Most workers here come under the Federal Rules so there are very few industries that pay under $5.00 per hour! My wife used to run a tour bus company out of New Orleans and the madam used to make 20 to 30 bucks an hour giving swamp tours in French! The minimum wage (Federal) applied to the company and aides were getting 5.15.

Sad thing is that the min has not been raised by the feds in so long that the states have taken to setting higher mins or different rules (Calif comes to mind).

The reason for the poverty is that large parts of the south have an agrarian economy and depended on cheap labor (Large families on southern Farms). So many people moved from the south to areas around Detroit, Cincinati, Chicago, Cleveland and even into the neck of Ontario to escape farm wages and the "Plantation" mentality which permeates so much of the Anglo-south.
 

GL Schmitt

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Martin Le Acadien said:
. . . Sad thing is that the min has not been raised by the feds in so long that the states have taken to setting higher mins or different rules (Calif comes to mind). . . .
So, one of the first actions taken by Dubya was to restore the South's poverty level wages.

Editorial
A Shameful Proclamation
Published: September 10, 2005

On Thursday, President Bush issued a proclamation suspending the law that requires employers to pay the locally prevailing wage to construction workers on federally financed projects. The suspension applies to parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

Link to Full Editorial
 

Martin Le Acadien

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Re: RE: Post Katrina- Disaste

GL Schmitt said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
. . . Sad thing is that the min has not been raised by the feds in so long that the states have taken to setting higher mins or different rules (Calif comes to mind). . . .
So, one of the first actions taken by Dubya was to restore the South's poverty level wages.

Editorial
A Shameful Proclamation
Published: September 10, 2005

On Thursday, President Bush issued a proclamation suspending the law that requires employers to pay the locally prevailing wage to construction workers on federally financed projects. The suspension applies to parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

Link to Full Editorial

Congress and Clinton & Dubya just never got around to raising the Federal Min. Wage. As for the Suspension on Federal Contracts, its a shame.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Bush and New Orleans; criminal negligence or premeditated murder?
Mike Whitney




September 14, 2005

President Bush's greatly celebrated "apology" for Hurricane Katrina tells us that we are now in the second phase of the White House diversionary strategy; nothing more. The administration's first plan, which was to deny everything by opining, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees," has been dismissed as nonsense by a profoundly engaged public. Now, we're on to "Phase Two", a more thoughtful approach that replicates the strategy that was used following 9-11. But, before we get to that, let's take a moment to articulate the charges as we see them against Mr. Bush.

There is abundant evidence suggesting that the federal government "intentionally" withheld vital aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Whatever the political motivation may have been is of no interest to us here; simply that the life-saving aid was purposely suspended. At the very least, Bush is guilty of criminal negligence; at the most premeditated murder; I leave that for the experts to decide. The profusion of stories that followed the events as they were unfolding in New Orleans all tell the same story with brilliant clarity. Here is a sampling of some of the headlines from just a week ago:

``FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations.''
``FEMA turns away experienced firefighters.''
``FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks.''
``FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel.''
``Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food.''
``FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans.''
``FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid.''
``FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board.''
``FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck.''
``FEMA turns away generators.''
``FEMA first responders urged not to respond.''

These articles have created a considerable dilemma for the administration; a crisis that requires a skillful media-strategy to revise the facts "as we all know them" and transform them into an apology for criminal negligence.

A careful reading of the Bush statement tells us that he accepts no responsibility for himself, but has adroitly shifted the blame onto the federal government; everyone's favorite whipping boy. This, of course, was the same strategy implemented after 9-11 when (after a year of dodging an independent investigation) Bush was able to place the blame on the Intelligence services. Everything we know now, tells us that that was not the case. "The lights were blinking red" as George Tenet said, and the administration certainly knew that a major attack on American soil was in the works.

The same is true here. The media are in "full-spin mode" revising the deliberate, criminal action of the administration, into a storyline of government blundering and hesitation.
No way.
I hope that the readers of this column will not fall for this conspicuous deception.
The media spin has suddenly morphed into "Bush's unwillingness to acknowledge mistakes".
Diversion.

"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government, and to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," said Bush.
Once again; diversion. We are not interested in the government's "response capability" nor are we interested in a "humbled" Bush. (as many of the papers are stating) We are only interested in whether food, water and medicine were deliberately withheld from Katrina's victims. This is the basis for criminal charges against the President and those directly involved in subverting the rescue effort.

I would ask everyone reading this article to take whatever knowledge they have of the real events as they took place (and are now part of the public record) including Aaron Broussard's claims that the government "murdered " the people in New Orleans (for sabotaging shipments of food, water and diesel fuel) and do a simple Google search of "Bush's apology". Any careful investigation of the 1200 articles now posted will prove that the media is creating a smokescreen of disinformation to protect the political establishment. The media-narrative has deftly shifted the emphasis from the basic facts of criminal negligence and, perhaps, premeditated murder, to a story of government unresponsiveness.

The Bush administration was directly complicit in the murder countless American citizens. This is not something that we can afford to ignore.
 

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The parish that feds overlooked
Canadian Mounties reached St. Bernard before U.S. troops


"I'm saying, where's the Department of Defense?" said parish Sheriff Jack Stephens. "The Canadians can show up, but the Department of Defense can't get to St. Bernard Parish?"


All I can say is un-fecking believable.
 

no1important

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Gee I guess they don't need anymore aid?


Some Canadian supplies not needed

PENSACOLA, Fla. -- In a sign the humanitarian crisis along the U.S. Gulf Coast may have finally begun to stabilize, a Canadian icebreaker was told Wednesday not to unload its entire cargo of relief supplies.

For the time being, the Sir William Alexander will hold on to some foodstuffs, as well as hundreds of tents and cots that had been destined for refugees, whose belongings were completely wiped out by hurricane Katrina.
 

Martin Le Acadien

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beentheredonethat

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Martin Le Acadien said:
no1important said:
The parish that feds overlooked
Canadian Mounties reached St. Bernard before U.S. troops


"I'm saying, where's the Department of Defense?" said parish Sheriff Jack Stephens. "The Canadians can show up, but the Department of Defense can't get to St. Bernard Parish?"


All I can say is un-fecking believable.

LET US JOIN CANADA NOW! THE PROVINCE OF LOUISIANE IS READY!
SAVE US FROM US NEGLECT, OUR HERITAGE IS FRENCH CANADIAN!

Get real, Martian. The rest of Louisiana is not going with you to Canada. They don't care about your biphoney baloney. Rather, about half a million of you are living in other states. Mostly Texas. Is Canada willing to house you, pay all your bills, provide you with health care, education, and import you? Let see .... probably not.

Been There
 

beentheredonethat

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Reverend Blair said:
I think that was uncalled for, especially from a newbie too afraid to reveal where he is from.

So, you are willing to import 500,000 Louisianians to Quebec at your expense, and then provide them with all life essentials?
Step on up - the ball is in your court. And of course, I assume you have the authority to speak as Canada's leader. Naturally, you
have the permission of Congress, the Senate, the citizens of the US, and the citizens of Louisiana.

If Martin wants to move to Quebec, fine. But he wants all of Louisiana to go with him. It's not simply going to happen.

Been There
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Post Katrina- Disaste

Hell, we could bring them to Manitoba. Ot we could spread them throughout the country.

This country was built on immigrants, beenthere. Mostly poor people who were suffering at home due to the actions of their governments. Another half million wouldn't hurt much.

That wasn't what Martin was proposing though. He was proposing that Louisana join Canada. I think that's worth discussing.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: Post Katrina- Disaste

Reverend Blair said:
Hell, we could bring them to Manitoba. Ot we could spread them throughout the country.

This country was built on immigrants, beenthere. Mostly poor people who were suffering at home due to the actions of their governments. Another half million wouldn't hurt much.

That wasn't what Martin was proposing though. He was proposing that Louisana join Canada. I think that's worth discussing.

rev: that is how I "read" martin's post. He isn't suggesting all the evacuees be relocated to Canada. Seems he is suggesting that the affected State(s) joing Canada and ....become the next province.???

Unfortunately Halliburten has its clutches on the region now.....along with the bush inner circle of money grabbers/ and exploiters of tragedies. So it is just a moot point. New Orleans is about to go under a massive transformation. Halliburton /bush style. (and we have Iraq as an example of their competence and efficiency. ) All in the name o f one "god".......the american"god"........called the DOLLAR $$$$$$$$$

and this "god" has all the power over the people, so the people worship it , unfailingly.......in the "church of the buck."

but it would be kinda cool to have another province and one located that far south. Idle musings.. :wink: Would make a nice companion for Quebec too. :wink: