See, if the corporations would get the government to adopt fair trade rules you wouldn't have to feel guilty about that, Papachongo.
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I guess my neo Conservative views dont sit well in here eh Rev. Strauss would be so proud of me right now, ha ha ha.
i support fair trade but fear it won't happen because the current corporations have too much sway in our political system. maybe banning corporate contributions to political campaigns might be a start.
I thought we were a bunch of oranges? :wink:
What part of Saskatoon are you from? Riding-wise, I mean...
Breakthrough2006 said:
Well that is a Strategic poll and their polls are always quite diferent than the rest. Very pro Conservative numbers. I would believe the other 3 instead.
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Grover:Grover Knight said:
You are here because Peapod allowed you back in. Against my vote, she gave you a 24 hour ban rather than a permanent one. Behave yourself or you will be banned permanently. I'm not as forgiving as she and your attitude stinks to high heaven. Grow up or go away.
BTW ... I give one warning only then it's a permanent ban. Consider this your warning.
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Breakthrough2006 said:
Well its kinda funny all other polls but strategic have always showed liberals ahead by 8-10+ points, yet all Strategics always show cons within 3-5 of libs. Strategic must be paid for by the cons.
Look for your self
Seat Projection
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Libs- 131, Cons-92, NDP-23, BQ-62
Strategic does tend to poll with a CPC bias, so does Ipsos Reid.
Even with that bias though, neither of them can put the Conservatives within reach of the Liberals in Ontario. Harper is being rejected again.
Even with that bias though, neither of them can put the Conservatives within reach of the Liberals in Ontario. Harper is being rejected again.
You know. I was listening to what Harper was saying about the military the other day and he seemed to be sincere about helping fix the military which I'm apart of and he did not appear scary or pro-bush to me.
However, I am still going to vote NDP because they have the same feeling to issues that I do.
And also, I have been reading about the issues on one site for each party, and aboriginal issues are important for me, even though I am white, and the conservative are planning to get rid of the Indian Act and reserves. So I don't know what everyone else thinks?
However, I am still going to vote NDP because they have the same feeling to issues that I do.
And also, I have been reading about the issues on one site for each party, and aboriginal issues are important for me, even though I am white, and the conservative are planning to get rid of the Indian Act and reserves. So I don't know what everyone else thinks?
The Conservative Party does not understand native issues and is incapable of comprehending that the treaties with bands are on an international level. They cannot walk away from those treaties.
There is also a streak of racism running through the Conservative Party that goes back to the formation of the Reform Party. Much of that is directed at natives.
Harper's platform for the military is questionable. A few weeks ago his MPs were ridiculing the DART as nothing but a PR device, now he wants to double its size. He wants to buy three planes to lift our troops, but experts say he will need at least twice that many for such an initiatve to be worthwhile. He has, throughout his career, favoured more integration with the US over multi-lateral peacekeeping missions.
The NDP has a vision for our military. It's based on Canadian sovereignty, multilateralism, and making the world a better place.
There is also a streak of racism running through the Conservative Party that goes back to the formation of the Reform Party. Much of that is directed at natives.
Harper's platform for the military is questionable. A few weeks ago his MPs were ridiculing the DART as nothing but a PR device, now he wants to double its size. He wants to buy three planes to lift our troops, but experts say he will need at least twice that many for such an initiatve to be worthwhile. He has, throughout his career, favoured more integration with the US over multi-lateral peacekeeping missions.
The NDP has a vision for our military. It's based on Canadian sovereignty, multilateralism, and making the world a better place.
Yeh, I can't wait to hear the NDP platform.
Anything is better than the Liberals. And they believe in the UN.
Anything is better than the Liberals. And they believe in the UN.
Clearly our policies are not working. No matter how much money is thrown at the problem of native poverty, there is no improvement. Remember Davis Inlet? We built all new homes, and moved an entire village but the problems come back. Here'
Its high time we looked at all options, including disbanding Indian Affairs, the reservation system, the special rules for natives. Bring them into mainstream society. In general natives do much better off reservation than on.
The special rules and the reserves stay. They are granted at the level of international treaties and the Canadian government cannot unilaterally back out of the agreements. That's what I mean by the Conservatives not understanding native issue and treaties, MMMikey.
To do what you are suggesting, you'd go to court where you'd be pummelled, and if you went ahead anyway you'd likely end up in the World Court where you'd be pummelled again. That would take decades and in the meantime you would have nothing to address the issues.
One of the mandates of Indian Affairs is to eventually make itself obsolete. Until that is possible, and there's likely a quarter century of work to do before it is, the department is necessary.
Also native people off reserves are not better off then on reserve. They face poverty and racism every day in the big cities, and are disrespected by the Police Forces of Canada.
And at the moment, Native people are not even equal to Canadian people. If you got rid of reserves then they are not allowed to stay in the places they are. Right now, they are only 'invited' to stay on the reserves by the Canadian government. If the reserve system went, anyone could go in and take the land from the native people because they do not hold title.
And they do not have special rights. They are having rights that they deserve being the indigenous people of Canada. Because Canadians have pushed them on reserves, tried to butcher their culture, and tried to assimilate them into 'the mainstream society' they need these rights to survive, culturally at least.
Now the Indian Act has to go, and reserves might have to go in the coming years, but I do not believe that these items should be scrapped until Natives are on an equal footing, on a real equal footing with fellow Canadians. And that means when their mortality rates are the same with other Canadians, when the poverty level is same with other Canadians, and when their children can go to school without dropping out same as other Canadians, then the Indian Act and reserves can go. Because until that time they will not be equal.
And at the moment, Native people are not even equal to Canadian people. If you got rid of reserves then they are not allowed to stay in the places they are. Right now, they are only 'invited' to stay on the reserves by the Canadian government. If the reserve system went, anyone could go in and take the land from the native people because they do not hold title.
And they do not have special rights. They are having rights that they deserve being the indigenous people of Canada. Because Canadians have pushed them on reserves, tried to butcher their culture, and tried to assimilate them into 'the mainstream society' they need these rights to survive, culturally at least.
Now the Indian Act has to go, and reserves might have to go in the coming years, but I do not believe that these items should be scrapped until Natives are on an equal footing, on a real equal footing with fellow Canadians. And that means when their mortality rates are the same with other Canadians, when the poverty level is same with other Canadians, and when their children can go to school without dropping out same as other Canadians, then the Indian Act and reserves can go. Because until that time they will not be equal.
The reserve thing is a bit of a red herring. We need more reserves, especially urban reserves, not less. The thing is that they have to be turned over to the natives instead of being controlled by Indian Affairs.
That sounds simple enough, but years of subjugation have taken their toll, land claims need to be settled, and a host of other issues...mostly related to poverty...need to be addressed first.
We very much created this problem, and we can help the various bands to address the carious issues so they can solve it, but it isn't going to happen overnight and it sure as hell isn't going to happen if start trying to take away their rights and their land.
That sounds simple enough, but years of subjugation have taken their toll, land claims need to be settled, and a host of other issues...mostly related to poverty...need to be addressed first.
We very much created this problem, and we can help the various bands to address the carious issues so they can solve it, but it isn't going to happen overnight and it sure as hell isn't going to happen if start trying to take away their rights and their land.
I have to admit that Davis Inlet was and is, an incredibly expensive disaster.($200 million) We built a new town 18 miles away with all the water and sewer infrastructure for a relatively small group of people and moved them from a town that we had already built for them thirty years earlier. There is no prospect of jobs in the new town and the old problems are still there except more people have arrived demanding new homes.
I won't make this a long rant but the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs had a budget last year of over $7 billion dollars. There are about 670,000 natives in Canada. That means that the government pays about ten thousand dollars a year to every native. or forty thousand dollars to a family of four. Why don't we just pay the money to the people directly and by-pass all the bureaucrats and crooked chiefs. I know the natives don't get this money but that would probably be a better way to handle it.