Pierre Poilievre

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
117,239
14,255
113
Low Earth Orbit
Ding-ding-ding! About 55-60% of eligible voters actually vote typically. Particularly controversial elections have bigger turnouts.

I would have explained that to pgs, but why bother? It's like discussing astrophysics with pigs. For pgs, anything that doesn't go his way is always the Great Big CONSPIRACEEEEEEEE! out t'git him. Moron would blame Biden for a rainy day.
So they dont hate Trump any longer so they stayed home this time?

Try again.
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
28,512
8,117
113
B.C.
Ding-ding-ding! About 55-60% of eligible voters actually vote typically. Particularly controversial elections have bigger turnouts.

I would have explained that to pgs, but why bother? It's like discussing astrophysics with pigs. For pgs, anything that doesn't go his way is always the Great Big CONSPIRACEEEEEEEE! out t'git him. Moron would blame Biden for a rainy day.
For none are so blind as those who refuse to see .
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
29,039
10,983
113
Regina, Saskatchewan
OK, having read up on the guy, I'm completely on board! He's pure comedy gold!
1732770111051.jpeg
Nobody is laughing at this point. Maybe punching more holes in their belts, but not laughing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Twin_Moose

Serryah

Hall of Fame Member
Dec 3, 2008
10,847
2,731
113
New Brunswick
And yet Poilievre continues to prove he doesn't deserve the leadership and PM status with stunts like he's pulling over the tariff threat from Trump. Instead, he'd rather undermine any position Canada has all to get at Trudeau. Not to say Trudeau's stance is exceptional, it's instead typical. But at least he's NOT giving "aid" to Trump's talking points. And PP is doing a great job at saying a lot that means nothing.


 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
117,239
14,255
113
Low Earth Orbit
And yet Poilievre continues to prove he doesn't deserve the leadership and PM status with stunts like he's pulling over the tariff threat from Trump. Instead, he'd rather undermine any position Canada has all to get at Trudeau. Not to say Trudeau's stance is exceptional, it's instead typical. But at least he's NOT giving "aid" to Trump's talking points. And PP is doing a great job at saying a lot that means nothing.


So...what are the Canadian plans to curb Fentanyl and illegal migration? Complain?

You want this?

Snapshot of the overdose crisis
Since 2016, there have been:
over 44 000 opioid-related deaths
over 42 000 opioid-related hospitalizations
over 174 000 opioid-related emergency department visits
About 3 out of 4 opioid-related deaths were among males since 2016
The toxicity and unpredictability of the illegal drug supply continues to be a major driver of the overdose crisis with over 80% of opioid-related deaths involving fentanyl and fentanyl analogues
The majority of opioid-related deaths occurred in British Columbia, Alberta, and Ontario

How about something you can relate to?

National prevalence data on substance use among lesbian, gay, and bisexual bLGBc high school students indicate that LGB students use substances at significantly higher rates than their straight peers (Jones et al., 2020c. This risk is compounded by LGB youths’ increased risk of attempting suicide compared to their straight, cisgender peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020c. Given that most previous research on youth substance use relies on federal datasets that have not measured gender identity in ways that include transgender or nonbinary youth, there is little research on transgender and nonbinary youths’ substance use. Using data from The Trevor Project’s 2021 National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health, this brief examines the relationship between lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer or questioning bLGBTQc youths’ substance use and their risk of suicide.

So whats it going to be save lives or cry over money?
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
29,039
10,983
113
Regina, Saskatchewan
President-elect Trump promised to cut energy costs by 50% in 18 months. That won’t be accomplished without Canadian resources. Just getting that out-of-the-way. Then to offer some perspective on Danielle Smith from Alberta:
1732797723688.jpeg
Second in oil production in Canada is Saskatchewan, & third is Newfoundland.

The United States of America borders on exactly two countries. Canada to the north and Mexico to the south. Canada borders on one country, and does the majority of its trade with that one country it shares a land border with…to the tune of about 3/4’s of its exports going to America. I’m just defining the relationship here.
1732799291108.jpeg
In the past, in recent memory, efforts to diversify (putting our eggs into more baskets) have been stymied (& yes, I’m going to use the oil industry as an example shortly) becauit’s much cheaper and easier to deal with a bordering country, but it is to ship products and resources across either the Pacific or Atlantic oceans.

What happens when Alberta (& Sask) try to expand the ability to get oil/gas/etc…to I did the Atlantic or the Pacific oceans in order to export that product into “other baskets?” Do we get a unified Team Canada approach? Something that’s good for the nation as a whole, like building the trans Canada Highway or the transcontinental railroad, this it must go through? Not so much….& yes, AB and SK are completely landlocked, and MB with the exception of Churchill for part of the year might as well be also.

(I happen to be on the logistical side of bringing finished products from America into Canada. That’s what I do. Just getting that out of the way also)

Anyway, back to Trump and tariffs. Yes, Canada is a fraction of the illegal immigrant problem and drug smuggling problem into America that Mexico is, but it still is part of the problem. It still has the longest undefended border in the world with its only neighbour. Yes, we can do better. Yes, the border goes in both directions.

We can crack down on illegal immigration (and emigration) and drug (& gun) smuggling in both directions at our border…at the same time!! It’s the same Border!!! Wouldn’t that be cool? Decreasing the amount of of illegal immigration, & drug smuggling, & gun smuggling, etc…coming into Canada Is half of the issue solved (or working towards being solved), & a decrease in the amount of illicit goods & bodies flowing into the US would be a byproduct of that. Huh…

Now for a twist. We increase military spending, drones, etc…& utilize that resource to combat/enforce our own border security domestically. This increases military spending, decreases crime, Slows down the open floodgate of handguns coming in from the US into Canada, slows down the illegal importation of fentanyl into our nation, etc…
 

Serryah

Hall of Fame Member
Dec 3, 2008
10,847
2,731
113
New Brunswick
PP is quite the "Leader".



If the reporting is true, this isn't how any party what so ever should be 'led'. And as for the validity, sure you can question it, however the fact we KNOW that the 17 MP's have been 'bitch slapped' for daring to see to their ridings and not toe the party line I think proves there's some validity to the claims.

And yes, I'm sure the usuals will go on about how this youtuber is a "Liberal" - well, he's left, but not a Liberal. He throws just as much shade at Trudeau as PP. I also don't agree with everything he says, but he does make enough valid points to be worth watching on occasion.

I'll give props to Erin O'Tool, too, for this interview.

And the point that people are tired of Trudeau is spot on and more valid than just the "Fuck Trudeau" crowd.
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
28,512
8,117
113
B.C.
PP is quite the "Leader".



If the reporting is true, this isn't how any party what so ever should be 'led'. And as for the validity, sure you can question it, however the fact we KNOW that the 17 MP's have been 'bitch slapped' for daring to see to their ridings and not toe the party line I think proves there's some validity to the claims.

And yes, I'm sure the usuals will go on about how this youtuber is a "Liberal" - well, he's left, but not a Liberal. He throws just as much shade at Trudeau as PP. I also don't agree with everything he says, but he does make enough valid points to be worth watching on occasion.

I'll give props to Erin O'Tool, too, for this interview.

And the point that people are tired of Trudeau is spot on and more valid than just the "Fuck Trudeau" crowd.
Is this supposed to make sense ?
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
29,039
10,983
113
Regina, Saskatchewan
Not to say Trudeau's stance is exceptional, it's instead typical. But at least he's NOT giving "aid" to Trump's talking points.
Mr. Trump last Monday on social media vowed to slap 25 per cent tariffs on Canada and Mexico until the two countries stop illegal migration and smuggling of opioids such as fentanyl from their territories into the United States.

Canada has promised Donald Trump that it will deploy additional drones, helicopters and personnel to safeguard its side of the border with the United States, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc says, in an effort to convince the American leader to shelve the steep tariffs he’s threatened on Canadian goods.
But, Mr. LeBlanc acknowledged, Canada has not so far obtained any assurances that the U.S. president-elect will back away from the threatened tariffs.

Mr. LeBlanc accompanied Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to a dinner Friday night at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s resort residence in Palm Beach, Fla., where they spent three hours talking to the president-elect and his team.

He said they told the Americans that Canada is “going to look to procure, for example, additional drones, additional police helicopters” and redeploy staff as needed, the minister told CBC News Sunday.

“It’s important, I think, to show Canadians and the Americans that we’re stepping up in a visible and muscular way, and that’s exactly what we’re going to do.”
Nobody is laughing at this point. Maybe punching more holes in their belts, but not laughing.
1733078368956.jpegThe Public Safety Minister said he remains confident the Republicans will ultimately realize the tariffs are the wrong idea. And he said he believes Canada still has time to make its case. He said he believes Mr. Trump likes Mr. Trudeau???

(On Monday, former U.S. president Donald Trump repeated the false claim that Fidel Castro could be Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's real father. While Trump frequently expresses his love for Canada, he has previously taken aim at Trudeau for being "two faced," "weak" and a "far-left lunatic.")
And yet Poilievre continues to prove he doesn't deserve the leadership and PM status with stunts like he's pulling over the tariff threat from Trump. Instead, he'd rather undermine any position Canada has all to get at Trudeau.
Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre called for the government to deputize provincial police officers to help out at the border, and to give border guards more power to enforce laws away from their border posts.

“I’m demanding that the Trudeau government quickly present a Canada-first plan to parliament that includes increased patrols, working with provincial law enforcement, deploying new technology, cracking down on illegal drug production and trafficking, tightening visas, securing our ports and expanding the mandate of CBSA officers to fix the broken border,” he told reporters in Ottawa.
Expanding the powers of CBSA would mirror a U.S. policy that allows border guards to enforce immigration laws up to 100 miles within the country. Under that policy, they use highway checkpoints leading from the border to catch unauthorised border crossers who manage to escape detection at the border.

In addition to more helicopters and drones, Mr. Poilievre also called for more towers and scanners to be deployed to the border.
We can crack down on illegal immigration (and emigration) and drug (& gun) smuggling in both directions at our border…at the same time!! It’s the same Border!!! Wouldn’t that be cool? Decreasing the amount of of illegal immigration, & drug smuggling, & gun smuggling, etc…coming into Canada Is half of the issue solved (or working towards being solved), & a decrease in the amount of illicit goods & bodies flowing into the US would be a byproduct of that. Huh…
He also pointed out that the flow at the border goes both ways, with illegal crime guns and drugs flowing from the U.S. into Canada.
Now for a twist. We increase military spending, drones, etc…& utilize that resource to combat/enforce our own border security domestically. This increases military spending, decreases crime, Slows down the open floodgate of handguns coming in from the US into Canada, slows down the illegal importation of fentanyl into our nation, etc…
 
  • Like
Reactions: Taxslave2