Pentagon Missile Theory dispelled

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mrmom2 said:
You ever see this video ITN Here
This kind of stuff is what fuels this movement :roll: You have to look deeper though Thats why IO like the other guyhe's more balanced in his approach to the whole mess

Yes I have, have you read this?

"A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "'It added power on its way in,' he said. 'The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'"

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm
 

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Enough of this shit I'm growing tired of arguing over therories :lol: All I can say is Bush and his buddys are sure getting rich oof this stuff and your constitution is under attack so who had the motive for this :p Lets just agree to disagree okay :wink:
 

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If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???
 

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It's funny how everyone starts asking questions when they cannot answer a very simple and the most obvious one.

Can anyone explain where in the world is Paul Ambrose?
 

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gopher said:
If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???

I know this is a different scenario, neat video nonetheless.

http://www.squizzle.com/movieview.asp?id=2051

Scroll down to "watch movie".
 

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gopher said:
If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???

I know this is a different scenario, neat video nonetheless.

http://www.squizzle.com/movieview.asp?id=2051

Scroll down to "watch movie".

Very interesting, fluid dynamics I believe is the correct term.
 

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I think not said:
Said1 said:
gopher said:
If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???

I know this is a different scenario, neat video nonetheless.

http://www.squizzle.com/movieview.asp?id=2051

Scroll down to "watch movie".

Very interesting, fluid dynamics I believe is the correct term.

Since the American's were behind the test, it was probably a fake plane. A plan devised by Dubya himself. The slick bastard. :D
 

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Said1 said:
I think not said:
Said1 said:
gopher said:
If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???

I know this is a different scenario, neat video nonetheless.

http://www.squizzle.com/movieview.asp?id=2051

Scroll down to "watch movie".

Very interesting, fluid dynamics I believe is the correct term.

Since the American's were behind the test, it was probably a fake plane. A plan devised by Dubya himself. The slick bastard. :D

Probably
 

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I think not said:
Said1 said:
I think not said:
Said1 said:
gopher said:
If a jet filled with fuel crashed unto the Pentagon, you have to wonder, where did all that fuel go? Why didn't it leak unto the grass around the building, cause fires to the cars parked outside of the building, and spread flames throughout its floors? The fuel leakage is what supposedly got into the WTC and caused it fires so shouldn't the same thing have happened in the Pentagon???

I know this is a different scenario, neat video nonetheless.

http://www.squizzle.com/movieview.asp?id=2051

Scroll down to "watch movie".

Very interesting, fluid dynamics I believe is the correct term.

Since the American's were behind the test, it was probably a fake plane. A plan devised by Dubya himself. The slick bastard. :D

Probably

Ok, it was really me.

I'd make a REALLY bad POW. :oops:
 

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The burden of proof lies with the conspiracy theorists. As with any conspiracy theory, everyone becomes a scientist. When you begin asking questions and seek no answers, then what you have is a conspiracy theory in the making. Start from the easy questions the common person can answer and relate to.

If you cannot excercise logic and common sense with the simplest of questions, you will be running around a circle with no end in sight.

The airplane fuel, isn't the magic bullet. Finding out if the passengers were on a plane and what happened to them is.

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" --Carl Sagan
 

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"conspiracy theory"

It will be recalled that the Pentagon told us that American vessels were fired upon and USA personnel were allegely killed in the Gulf of Tonkin thereby "justifying" the Vietnam war. The government never came up with any proof that the attack occurred but people swallowed it as if it was the truth. In June of 1971 we learned from the Pentagon Papers that such an attack NEVER took place so that every American who was killed in Vietnam was murdered by his own government.

That's what happens when you succumb to lies.
 

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gopher said:
"conspiracy theory"

It will be recalled that the Pentagon told us that American vessels were fired upon and USA personnel were allegely killed in the Gulf of Tonkin thereby "justifying" the Vietnam war. The government never came up with any proof that the attack occurred but people swallowed it as if it was the truth. In June of 1971 we learned from the Pentagon Papers that such an attack NEVER took place so that every American who was killed in Vietnam was murdered by his own government.

That's what happens when you succumb to lies.

Yes, the only problem with your theory is that eyewtinesses saw the plane, people died, their friends and families have confirmed their deaths. Now I know its customary to bounce around the topic when you can't provide evidence to refute the simplest of all questions, but you have to try and think that not having any love for Bush doesn;t automatically equate to not excercising logic.
 

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Just as many people deny that a plane crashed there and the government still hasn't provided any actual tape of the crash despite there being several airports in the area. Don't forget that Bush produced several "witnesses" who said that Iraq had WMD and we learned later on that this was also a government fabrication.
 

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Well maybe I should email him and ask him where the passengers went. He should be on the look out for Paul Ambrose and the rest.

He hasn't even addressed the dissapearance of any of the victims. Nobody ever looks that way, because the answer is too obvious.

A 757 passenger jet hit the Pentagon and the passengers were killed. Their friends and family are proof they died, the pathology report is proof they died and parts found at the Pentagon for identification of the bodies.

If this isn't enough, then this is the reason conspiracy theories exist. They never approach it from the human perspective (when its possible) because they always lose.

In order to fully accept that Flight 77 was not crashed into the Pentagon, one must put aside their pre-conceived notions that the government could never do such a thing...

Having done that, it is not such a desperate stretch to consider that Flight 77 after having its transponder turned off, was flown out over the Atlantic Ocean, and shot down, never to be heard from again...according to the dictates of Operation Northwoods...that would account for the missing plane and passengers...

So what flew into the Pentagon then? Most of the initial eye-witness reports suggested that it was much smaller than a commercial plane, which the physical evidence at the crash site would support. It was only after those in charge took command of the scene that the stories began to change, and be spun to the tune that it was indeed a 757 that hit the Pentagon, and all other newscasts took up that tune...

I don't believe that it was a missile, as several eye-witnesses clearly said that they thought it was a small charter plane...this leads me to believe that it was more than likely a Global Hawk UAV that was packed with RDX explosives for an added punch...and Global Hawks are desiged to be piloted remotely...

Would a Global Hawk have penetrated the reinforced walls straight through to C ring? Not unless the nose of the aircraft were somehow also reinforced...then it could be possible...

At any rate, the physical evidence at the crash site does not appear to support the theory that a 757 slammed into the Pentagon...and so there must be another solution to the problem...and as mrmom2 has pointed out, your government is in posession of evidence that could dispel any myths, so why don't they?
 

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Re: RE: Pentagon Missile Theory dispelled

gopher said:
Just as many people deny that a plane crashed there and the government still hasn't provided any actual tape of the crash despite there being several airports in the area. Don't forget that Bush produced several "witnesses" who said that Iraq had WMD and we learned later on that this was also a government fabrication.

Aside from defectors, do you remember the other witnesses?
 

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Well maybe I should email him and ask him where the passengers went. He should be on the look out for Paul Ambrose and the rest.

He hasn't even addressed the dissapearance of any of the victims. Nobody ever looks that way, because the answer is too obvious.

A 757 passenger jet hit the Pentagon and the passengers were killed. Their friends and family are proof they died, the pathology report is proof they died and parts found at the Pentagon for identification of the bodies.

If this isn't enough, then this is the reason conspiracy theories exist. They never approach it from the human perspective (when its possible) because they always lose.

In order to fully accept that Flight 77 was not crashed into the Pentagon, one must put aside their pre-conceived notions that the government could never do such a thing...

Having done that, it is not such a desperate stretch to consider that Flight 77 after having its transponder turned off, was flown out over the Atlantic Ocean, and shot down, never to be heard from again...according to the dictates of Operation Northwoods...that would account for the missing plane and passengers...

Yes, but you are speculating. Do you have any evidence to refute the information I posted? Do you have any proof that a plane was flown over the Atlantic and shot down?

Your analogy with Northwoods is amusing since the Defense Secretary and the President both rejected the pland and had the general "resign"
 

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Re: RE: Pentagon Missile Theory dispelled

gopher said:
Just as many people deny that a plane crashed there and the government still hasn't provided any actual tape of the crash despite there being several airports in the area. Don't forget that Bush produced several "witnesses" who said that Iraq had WMD and we learned later on that this was also a government fabrication.

Dozens killed on th eplane, dozens of witnesses, hundreds of family and friends, dozens in the control tower, hundreds of rescue workers, a missing airplane which equates to dozens of people in American Airlines, dozens of people at Boeing, body parts found at the Pentagon site equates to a little more than "several"