Peacekeeping de-valued our military

[vishliberal]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

There have been terrorist attacks in Ottawa, but against Turkish diplomats, hence the lack of invasion.

Where were these terrorists from?

and they were against turkish diplomats, why not Canadians then?

 

[damngrumpy]

I do not support any action that brings us closer to the United States. I don't care about becoming a terrorist target so much as I would hate to think of us as being in league with those war criminals to the south of us. If you look at what they are doing they are breaking ever international law they can think of while they expect everyone else to abide by international rules.
I have little or no respect for America anymore, they have reverted back to the Vietnam era.

 

[Lineman]

I do not support any action that brings us closer to the United States.

We are as close as it gets. Geographically, economically and our politics, as hard we try to be seperate are influenced by every little hiccup south of the border. Militarily, successive governments dating as far back as Trudeau have cut and slashed to the point where we can only offer up a couple escort vessels and a light battalion or 2. Even if we wanted to have our own foriegn policy and do our own thing such as going into the Sudan we can't. At least not without help from our neighbours.

I don't care about becoming a terrorist target so much as I would hate to think of us as being in league with those war criminals to the south of us.

We are a target and have been for a while. Too late to point fingers and say "not me, him"

If you look at what they are doing they are breaking every international law they can think of while they expect everyone else to abide by international rules.

Yes they may have broken a few laws, and yes invading Iraq is (highly?) questionable but after 9/11 Americans are really really pissed off and will not let themselves be attacked again. They are fighting people who have no respect for any laws, least of all international ones. If you get into a fight and someone kicks you in the nards you don't file a protest, you hit him with a chair.

 

[Mogz]

RE: Peacekeeping de-value

I do not support any action that brings us closer to the United States. I don't care about becoming a terrorist target so much as I would hate to think of us as being in league with those war criminals to the south of us. If you look at what they are doing they are breaking ever international law they can think of while they expect everyone else to abide by international rules.
I have little or no respect for America anymore, they have reverted back to the Vietnam era.

How pedestrian. Blaming an entire nation of over 250 million people for the actions of their Government. Like it or not, those war criminals, as you so eloquently put it, are your best friends on this planet. Further more, we have several American members on this forum, perhaps you could show them some respect? Or is that too much of a stretched for a vaunted Canadian?

 

[Mogz]

RE: Peacekeeping de-value

No offense to Mogz, he is not of the same mind set of us civilians. I understand where he's coming from, I just don't share his zeal on aggression.

I resent that. I have no "zeal for aggression". I don't want Canada to be at War in Afghanistan. I don't want people being killed in Iraq. I do however support our operation in Afghanistan and have come to terms with the fact that there is an on going conflict in Iraq, and people will die. You're mistaking my dedication to defence of this nation, and my acceptance that somtimes war is the only answer, for blood lust. Honestly, I wish there was no need for my profession, I really do, however sadly, until the entire planet demilitarizes, each nation requires a cadre of people with a militaristic attitude.

 

[Said1]

I'm sorry if you resent the comment, but based on what I've read, that's how you come off, too me. I didn't say blood and lust, either, I said aggression, and that too, comes out in your posts. I didn't say it was a bad thing, just not shared by me, who is not in the military. I'm sure you can understand that, if you think about it.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

There have been terrorist attacks in Ottawa, but against Turkish diplomats, hence the lack of invasion.

Where were these terrorists from?

and they were against turkish diplomats, why not Canadians then?

They were Armenian.

Why would they be agains Canadians, Canadians have nothing to do with the "problem" between Turks and Armenians.

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

There have been terrorist attacks in Ottawa, but against Turkish diplomats, hence the lack of invasion.

Where were these terrorists from?

and they were against turkish diplomats, why not Canadians then?

They were Armenian.

Why would they be agains Canadians, Canadians have nothing to do with the "problem" between Turks and Armenians.

The attacks, if I remember correctly, were not on canadians, but on the Turkish Embassy and Turkish diplomats.

 

[Said1]

Thats' what I said, isn't it?

 

[vishliberal]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

Thats' what I said, isn't it?

You said armenians actually....
Furthermore you've proved my point, the person before me said that to say that there were terrorist attacks in Canada, but once again, that was not aimed at Canadians...

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

Thats' what I said, isn't it?

You said armenians actually....
Furthermore you've proved my point, the person before me said that to say that there were terrorist attacks in Canada, but once again, that was not aimed at Canadians...

I know what I said. If you scroll back up for a sec, you'll see I said "there have been terrorist attacks in Ottawa, against Turkish diplomats".

Then, you asked, and I quote 'Where were these terrorists from?

and they were against turkish diplomats, why not Canadians then?'

to which I answered "They were Armenian.

Why would they be agains Canadians, Canadians have nothing to do with the problem between Turks and Armenians.'

Then Colpy said "The attacks, if I remember correctly, were not on canadians, but on the Turkish Embassy and Turkish diplomats.'

And you know the rest.


Maybe it was unclear, leading one to assume something I hadn't intended to imply by answering your question. I guess it was the lack of precise detail on my part, but I really don't know what went wrong.

In any case, let's do a recap. Terrists were Armeniaa, their targets were Turkish diplomats, one killed, one injured, several locations including embassy. If you want MORE detail, hit goolge.

Anyway, hardly worth arguing over. I think you may find other posts, written by me, worth the effort invovled in ripping me a new one. I give you an E for effort.

 

[Sassylassie]

Said1 there's evil forces on the board today, pay no attention I enjoy all your post. My only complaint is I miss that flying Beagle, what his/her name by the way?

 

[Finder]

Said1 there's evil forces on the board today, pay no attention I enjoy all your post. My only complaint is I miss that flying Beagle, what his/her name by the way?

*wonders if I am an evil force* :idea:




:twisted:

 

[zoofer]

I do not support any action that brings us closer to the United States. I don't care about becoming a terrorist target so much as I would hate to think of us as being in league with those war criminals to the south of us. If you look at what they are doing they are breaking ever international law they can think of while they expect everyone else to abide by international rules.
I have little or no respect for America anymore, they have reverted back to the Vietnam era.

ROTFLMAO

Unfortunately the terrorists will target the wrong people. Innocent women and children rather than grumpy old Saddamites.
Interesting that if Chirac and Schroeder were not trying to hide their collaboration with Saddam the regime change in Iraq would have magically become "legal".

 

[vishliberal]

Re: RE: Peacekeeping de-valued our military

Thats' what I said, isn't it?

You said armenians actually....
Furthermore you've proved my point, the person before me said that to say that there were terrorist attacks in Canada, but once again, that was not aimed at Canadians...

I know what I said. If you scroll back up for a sec, you'll see I said "there have been terrorist attacks in Ottawa, against Turkish diplomats".

Then, you asked, and I quote 'Where were these terrorists from?

and they were against turkish diplomats, why not Canadians then?'

to which I answered "They were Armenian.

Why would they be agains Canadians, Canadians have nothing to do with the problem between Turks and Armenians.'

Then Colpy said "The attacks, if I remember correctly, were not on canadians, but on the Turkish Embassy and Turkish diplomats.'

And you know the rest.


Maybe it was unclear, leading one to assume something I hadn't intended to imply by answering your question. I guess it was the lack of precise detail on my part, but I really don't know what went wrong.

In any case, let's do a recap. Terrists were Armeniaa, their targets were Turkish diplomats, one killed, one injured, several locations including embassy. If you want MORE detail, hit goolge.

Anyway, hardly worth arguing over. I think you may find other posts, written by me, worth the effort invovled in ripping me a new one. I give you an E for effort.

ok, thanks for the E...and as with me I know what I said. Those terrorists attacks were not aimed at Canadians at all, and thats what I was trying to prove to the other members who brought the whole turkish diplomat thing up. I was trying to show him, through asking questions, that the attacks werent aimed at Canadians. In short terms, I wasnt trying to direct anythin at you.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I do not support any action that brings us closer to the United States.

Funny statement when you support those war criminals every time you spend a dollar in Best Buy, Wal-Mart or any other bargain store.

In fact, such a statement is quite hypocitical.

There would be many tears if the War Criminals to the South sealed off the borders and stopped buying our goods.

Remember this, the dollars you spend and receive undoubtedly have been touched, used and even provided by those very same war criminals.

Truth be known, I did not support a War in Iraq. I thought it was tactically unsound, but then hindsight is always 20/20.

If you want nothing to do with the War Criminals to the South I suggest you shut off your PC, sever your internet and move to a cabin somewhere up North and eat Whale blubber.

Only then will you be truly unaccountable for the War Criminals to the South.

Cheers
M

 

[Said1]

I brought the entire subject up, one person aside from you replied (unless I missed it). No one said they were carried out by Canadians, nor did anyone say they were targetted. Pls go back and re-read.

I should also say I brought it up not to prove a point, but because I thought some might be interested.