Organize for Revolution in Canada!

Jay

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Re: RE: Organize for Revolution in Canada!

Rick van Opbergen said:
My country has been a social-democracy for quite some time (just like most European countries), and for what I know, they are all capitalist. It could be this website is using another definition of socialism, because the "socialism" what I've seen under social-democratic governments is still a clear form of capitalism.


cap•i•tal•ism
n.
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.


You start up a business and the government takes 40% of your business profits, and then taxes the income from the cheque you take from that business at 35%-45%, plus makes your business pay twice into unemployment insurance for your employees what each employee pays into it. Taxes your employees at 25-35%, makes you then pay workman’s compensation. There are property taxes and gas taxes etc. The government considers free coffee at work to be a taxable benefit.

If you do end up with any money left over and you want to invest that money, the government calls that capital gains, and taxes it at 30%.


I don’t think that is capitalism.




socialism
n 1: a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
2: an economic system based on state ownership of capital
so•cial•ism n.
1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
 

Rick van Opbergen

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Maybe you think it may not be capitalism, but don't forget that Canada, as well as all social-democratic countries, have an open market. Communist states (barely) have that. No, my friend, communism (or what is close to it, socialism - according to your definition that is) is far from what we have back here.
 

Jay

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I got those definitions from Dictionary.com.

I meant to post the link, sorry about that.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Organize for Revoluti

They aren't accurate. They are a very American definition and do not address the reality of social democracy on most of the planet.
 

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No Jay you are not a one man army, you are a one man peacock! There is a difference. Red sword, HA! interesting how he just showed up and posted that thread :roll: I would not be surprised if he is one of your buddies.
Blah! are you people do is whine about things once they "happen" to "you". What are you doing to really voice your concerns about the medical system. Nuttin, except posting at this board.
 

Jay

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peapod said:
No Jay you are not a one man army, you are a one man peacock! There is a difference. Red sword, HA! interesting how he just showed up and posted that thread :roll: I would not be surprised if he is one of your buddies.
Blah! are you people do is whine about things once they "happen" to "you". What are you doing to really voice your concerns about the medical system. Nuttin, except posting at this board.

Pea, I pay my taxes, that’s what I do. I support the system with cash, you know the stuff that keeps nurses working. Something tells me I pay a lot more into this system than you do. I don’t have time to go and tell a bunch of “not listening “socialists they have fucked us over. I’m just a means to an end to those ppl.


You like this "pea" thing.

Peapod, Peacock.....Should I make any association with this?



"Red sword, HA! interesting how he just showed up and posted that thread :roll: I would not be surprised if he is one of your buddies."


Perhaps you’re reading too much into it.


Don't worry about it Pea. It will only stress you out.