Organize for Revolution in Canada!

peapod

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Try that on for awhile Jay, post your comments and ideas and beliefs without trying to take dumb ass, and they are dumb ass shots at the rev. Unless of course your only reason for being here is to single him out and try to incite reaction from him. You have been doing this from the day you came here. And don't even try to act like the "injured party" either, I can go back and look at your posts from day one...Its all about the rev. I have been coming to this board for almost a year, the rev is always polite, and posts what he believes and has reseached on. (He does this for a living) If you treat him with resepect he will do the same.
 

Jay

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Pea the way I see him treat ppl he doesn't like around here, I don't feel sorry for him, nor do I think he cares either way.

FYI the reason I post things to him is because he isn't scared to respond, he posts a lot of political stuff around here. If there was another person who did the same and said similar things as the Rev, I would engage them too.

I have told you this before Pea. I suppose you forgot.
 

peapod

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Well than Jay its about time you did just that engage the rev in a real debate. He has his facts and sources, and I KNOW he has no problem showing you them without being nasty. Lets see if you can do the same.
 

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RE: Organize for Revoluti

The difference between Researchok and Jay is that Researchok was smart...he actually thought about the issues. Jay regurgitates sound-bites like a below-average ditto-head.
 

Jay

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peapod said:
I have been coming to this board for almost a year, the rev is always polite, and posts what he believes and has reseached on. (He does this for a living) If you treat him with resepect he will do the same.

Reverend Blair said:
The difference between Researchok and Jay is that Researchok was smart...he actually thought about the issues. Jay regurgitates sound-bites like a below-average ditto-head.




You have a strange idea of what polite is Pea. The Rev spends a lot of his time insulting people. If he gets paid for it, good for him, it’s an industry that suits him.


So let’s wander back to the topic at hand. I didn’t post the last topic post so Pea could use the word Christ and small mind in the same sentence, something I’m sure she loves to do.
 

Reverend Blair

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If he gets paid for it, good for him, it’s an industry that suits him.

I get paid for the research, Jay. Returning insults to people like you is just a hobby. 8)

I also get paid for telling people not to put chemicals in their eyes, their digits in moving machinery, or industrial cleaners in their mouths, BTW. You don't have to take my advice, though. :wink:

By way of wandering back to the topic at hand, have you looked into Emma Goldman any further than your initial Google, Jay? You should...she's kind of hot in those little clip on glasses.
 

peapod

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blah! Iwill use the word christ when ever and however I want. You don't like it well cry me a river :cry: :cry: And I will hang with gays, and go to their weddings, and I completely agree with vanni on your "book". And a high five to a darwin day, you don't like it. Who cares.
 

Rick van Opbergen

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Jay said:
"I can't beleave how many people want to live in a police state."

Exactly. This reasoning is exactly why I can't vote for the left. They are more interested in controlling, banning and policing everything.
There is a difference between a police state and social-democrats, Jay.
 

Jay

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peapod said:
blah! Iwill use the word christ when ever and however I want. You don't like it well cry me a river :cry: :cry: And I will hang with gays, and go to their weddings, and I completely agree with vanni on your "book". And a high five to a darwin day, you don't like it. Who cares.


Have a good weekend Pea....it looks like you need some rest.
 

Jay

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I get paid for the research, Jay. Returning insults to people like you is just a hobby. 8)

:)

Reverend Blair said:
I also get paid for telling people not to put chemicals in their eyes, their digits in moving machinery, or industrial cleaners in their mouths, BTW. You don't have to take my advice, though. :wink:

It’s the sort of advice I was taught when I was three.....

Sounds like a nice job though, how long have you been doing that?

Why aren’t you into journalism more? Or better yet; Why haven’t you got a job with the NDP? Seriously, I think you (if you kept the rhetoric soft) would make an excellent worker bee for them; you could probably be a good advisor or something. You know what I mean….

Reverend Blair said:
By way of wandering back to the topic at hand, have you looked into Emma Goldman any further than your initial Google, Jay? You should...she's kind of hot in those little clip on glasses.

I had heard of her of coarse and that she was terrorist sort, and a communist, so I didn't spend a lot of time with it back in those days. I can try to look more into it however. I can’t imagine I agree with the anarchist so much.

How about my post concerning the tactics of the NDP? Is it possible they would be even further left if it was palatable?
 

Jay

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Rick van Opbergen said:
Jay said:
"I can't beleave how many people want to live in a police state."

Exactly. This reasoning is exactly why I can't vote for the left. They are more interested in controlling, banning and policing everything.
There is a difference between a police state and social-democrats, Jay.



http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=social democrat

social democracy
n.
A political theory advocating the use of democratic means to achieve a gradual transition from capitalism to socialism.


I'm a capitalist, so its just different tactics to me.
 

Reverend Blair

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It’s the sort of advice I was taught when I was three.....

Sounds like a nice job though, how long have you been doing that?

I can't really say how long...it kind of fell into my lap at the company I was working for several years ago and has been on-again, off-again ever since. I got a contract in October that allowed me to tell my boss to piss off though.

It is the kind of writing that is required in the work place because employers have habitually shirked their responsibility for the well-being of their employees. They still are, which is why I get paid for writing things that they should be handling in-house.



Why aren’t you into journalism more? Or better yet; Why haven’t you got a job with the NDP? Seriously, I think you (if you kept the rhetoric soft) would make an excellent worker bee for them; you could probably be a good advisor or something.

I said "also", remember? Freelance work is freelance work.



I had heard of her of coarse and that she was terrorist sort, and a communist, so I didn't spend a lot of time with it back in those days.

She was actually an anarchist, not a communist. Her views on government weren't that far from yours, although her views on corporatism were far different than yours.

How about my post concerning the tactics of the NDP? Is it possible they would be even further left if it was palatable?

I have no idea what you consider "left" anymore. The NDP has always stood for individual rights. They have always promoted human rights. They have always promoted democracy. They have always stood for limiting the power of the police. They have always stood for minority and women's rights. Are those things right or left?
 

Jay

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peapod said:
Blah! save the smooth operator bullshit for the little mrs in the apron :p


I'd love to meet the "little Mrs in the apron"

You will have to introduce me to her. :wink:
 

peapod

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I be speaking about your little mrs's Jay. :wink: And I would like to see you call mine a mrs...better bring your dog and gun when you do :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Re: RE: Organize for Revolution in Canada!

Jay said:
Rick van Opbergen said:
Jay said:
"I can't beleave how many people want to live in a police state."

Exactly. This reasoning is exactly why I can't vote for the left. They are more interested in controlling, banning and policing everything.
There is a difference between a police state and social-democrats, Jay.



http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=social democrat

social democracy
n.
A political theory advocating the use of democratic means to achieve a gradual transition from capitalism to socialism.


I'm a capitalist, so its just different tactics to me.
My country has been a social-democracy for quite some time (just like most European countries), and for what I know, they are all capitalist. It could be this website is using another definition of socialism, because the "socialism" what I've seen under social-democratic governments is still a clear form of capitalism.
 

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Just to get back to the original (call for revolution) post, a few comments:

I agree that the current system of government in this country seems to be designed and maintained in a way that will benefit the ruling elite (Liberal party and their financial supporters). These people are neither right nor left, but will adopt any "philosphy" that they can use to keep power for themselves. They seem to have no political or moral creeds or convictions other than they should rule. The former Progressive Conservatives were basicly of the same conviction and switching from one to the other wouldn't change the game much. The NDP does have political convictions (and I admire them for that) and so is unlikely to be allowed to advance too far, even though they do play the game with the Libs and PCs. The old reform party was something different. They too had political convictions and were intent on changing the system. They refused to play the game, which is why they were so hated by the other parties.

As for the gap between rich and poor growing, well there's good reason for that. If I had figured out how to make $500,000 per year, why would I stop? Making lots of money is the second best feeling, second most fun there is. (Been there, lost it) I know several people who started with nothing and made themselves into multimillionaires, one of them with only a grade 6 education, so it's not like there's no opportunity. Some people just have the knack for recognizing opportunity and acting on it. Most don't. The rich get richer because they keep doing the things that made them rich. The poor stay poor because they keep doing the things that make them poor (drop out of school, single mom, don't try to improve themselves etc.). I'm now poor. All my own doing, as well as every other poor person I know, including native peoples.

The ruling elite in this country govern in such a way as to keep themselves in power. As yet, they haven't removed opportunity from the people because it hasn't served that purpose, but by buying votes with the voters money (government programs for everything, the Nannystate) they are getting there.
 

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peapod said:
blah! he questions the rev's writing abilities now, desperate times for desperate people. :roll:

Give Pea a paint brush and she will paint you as a monster.


I wasn't questioning his writing abilities at all.


I was questioning him though, and not you.
 

Jay

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Reverend Blair said:
I said "also", remember? Freelance work is freelance work.

I hope you make good money at it.



Reverend Blair said:
I have no idea what you consider "left" anymore. The NDP has always stood for individual rights. They have always promoted human rights. They have always promoted democracy. They have always stood for limiting the power of the police. They have always stood for minority and women's rights. Are those things right or left?

I think every political party in Canada says they support those policies.