Opposition leader needs to rethink position on resources

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Tom Mulcair's derision of oilsands is raising the ire of the West as he tries to pit one part of the country against the other


Unusually, a premier is stepping forward to do battle with official Opposition leader Tom Mulcair over the pace of western Canadian resource development.

Saskatchewan's Brad Wall put up his dukes this week, con-fronting what he considers a nationally divisive and erroneous posture adopted by the new NDP leader on the oilsands and other resource developments in the region.

Wall tweeted his displeasure over comments Mulcair made in a radio interview last week-end about "Dutch Disease" - whereby Canada's robust petrodollar supposedly is dam-aging the manufacturing sector in Ontario, Quebec and New Brunswick.

While it's not often a premier jumps jurisdictions to confront a federal politician who is not the prime minister, the Saskatchewan Party premier is an ideal candidate to take on Mulcair.

Stephen Harper is under the gun for running roughshod over the environment in order to expedite resource development. And Alberta's Alison Redford would be seen as narrowly trying to safeguard the golden oilsands goose.

In joining the fray, Wall broadens the opposition to Mulcair, making it appear as a western front.

Wall established himself as a strong Saskatchewan spokes-man in 2010 as he fended off a takeover bid of the potash industry by BHP Billiton. He's cited in polls as one of the most popular premiers Canada.

He won an easy victory in an election last November and is the only premier this year to introduce a balanced bud-get, thanks largely to strong resource development in Saskatchewan, which has uranium and potash as well as some conventional oil.

Wall, whose roots are in the Progressive Conservative party, asserted Monday on CBC TV that it's inappropriate for Mulcair to pit one part of Canada against another. "This is someone who is aspiring to 24 Sussex Drive, to be the prime minister of the country."
And he correctly noted the NDP leader's position is a disputed one.

He pointed out that U.S. rust belt states like Michigan and Ohio are suffering just as Ontario is, in the absence of any oilsands development.

Further, Saskatchewan's own manufacturing sector is thriving despite the high Canadian dollar.
Weakness in the manufacturing sector is due more to a global economic downturn and manufacturing jobs moving to lower-cost developing countries, he says.

"Let's watch some of the rhetoric in this debate," said Wall, citing the equalization cash that western provinces contribute.
"I'd say to Mr. Mulcair, he should explain to western Canadians why what we're doing here is bad for the country when we know we're contributing mightily to the nation."

Mulcair has never been to Alberta's oilsands, according to his office. But on an upcoming cross-country tour, he plans to take a first-hand look at the northern Alberta development.

There are early indications the official Opposition leader is suffering politically because of his repeated assaults on Alberta's oil sector.
While his pitch appears to appeal to Quebecers, a Nanos Research poll last month showed folks both in the Prairies and in B.C. give a thumbs down to Mulcair on leadership indexes relating to trust and vision.

In B.C., while 24 per cent of poll respondents said Harper had the best vision for Canada, 5.6 per cent chose Mulcair. While 32 per cent of Prairie respondents described Harper as trustworthy, 13 per cent picked Mulcair.

If New Democrats are sincere in their intention to improve their disastrous showing on the Prairies in last year's election - when they won just three seats - and win government in 2015, they'll have to develop a whole new narrative on western resource development.


Our tulip bulb industry is safe and sound Tom.
 

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You already made a thread about this and we confirmed that the dutch disease is real and there is no pitting east vs. west here as Mulcair is not against oilsands development.

There's more granularity to this discussion than you are giving credit for.

No one is saying to reduce development to zero, but that is the implication Wall and the far right are trying to impose on the media and public.
 

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One part of the country against the other ... like investors against working stiffs?

Not sure, but the irony is that unsustainably shooting oilsands production up only pits the west vs. east even further because equalization does not favour the "have provinces" the more we develop the oilsands. So, hypocritically, the only people making west and east fight are people from the far right - like Durry and Walter as this forum well knows.
 

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Not sure, but the irony is that unsustainably shooting oilsands production up only pits the west vs. east even further because equalization does not favour the "have provinces" the more we develop the oilsands. So, hypocritically, the only people making west and east fight are people from the far right - like Durry and Walter as this forum well knows.
Oil sands are only a fraction of Canadian oil production. Heavy oil and good ol sweet are where the real production jumps are.
 

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Wall, of course, is unbiased. His province does not have oil interests and the large shale deposits! The Canadian dollar has exactly tracked the price of oil over the past decade. But it is not the dollar that is causing the loss of hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Oh No!

One recent study put the dollar as the source of loss of 52% of those. What further percentage is from "Globalisation?" Globalisation that does not hurt Alberta and Saskatchewan.

What great Canadians the two Western Premiers are. Both want a national consensus on the rush to market of their resources. Both want to commisserate with Ontario on the collateral damage.
 

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What great Canadians the two Western Premiers are. Both want a national consensus on the rush to market of there resources. Both want to commiserate with Ontario on the collateral damage.

But I thought they wanted to bring Ontario and Alberta together, and maybe we can invite PEI for the orgy?
 

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Wall, of course, is unbiased. His province does not have oil interests and the large shale deposits! The Canadian dollar has exactly tracked the price of oil over the past decade. But it is not the dollar that is causing the loss of hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Oh No!

One recent study put the dollar as the source of loss of 52% of those. What further percentage is from "Globalisation?" Globalisation that does not hurt Alberta and Saskatchewan.

What great Canadians the two Western Premiers are. Both want a national consensus on the rush to market of their resources. Both want to commisserate with Ontario on the collateral damage.
Who is losing the jobs? Overpriced ON where it's too ****ing expensive to operate and energy needs to be imported or do you move the manufacturing to where the energy is?
 

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I'm right there with you on that. These are the considerations that any nation has on the table when considering big projects like these.
In this case, makes sense from an economic and logistical POV.

There already is an agreement. TILMA


Understood.... But I expect that too much pissing and moaning from Canadians on projects like Northern Gateway will push the opportunities South of the border... AB to the BC coast makes sense, but if too may have their panties all in a bunch over it in BC, then build a longer p/l to Washington (or Oregon) and supply the Pacific Rim from there.
 

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I'm right there with you on that. These are the considerations that any nation has on the table when considering big projects like these.
In this case, makes sense from an economic and logistical POV.




Understood.... But I expect that too much pissing and moaning from Canadians on projects like Northern Gateway will push the opportunities South of the border... AB to the BC coast makes sense, but if too may have their panties all in a bunch over it in BC, then build a longer p/l to Washington (or Oregon) and supply the Pacific Rim from there.
It would be one **** of a lot easier and cheaper to go through Washington State and supply Puget sound's massive oil operations and tanker fleets but we are Canadian and put ourselves first.
 

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It would be one **** of a lot easier and cheaper to go through Washington State and supply Puget sound's massive oil operations and tanker fleets but we are Canadian and put ourselves first.

No doubt, but expect that to start to change.. I think that Harper understands the value of the p/l through BC and developing an export market from Kitimat. That said, Enbridge, Transcanada, et al all look to the time lines involved and if there the horizon is too far out, they seek alternate options.
 

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Mulcair's policies aren't popular in Alberta? Oh no. What a terrible political mistake.
 

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Mulcair's policies aren't popular in Alberta? Oh no. What a terrible political mistake.


For who?

Resource development and pipelines will be heading through regardless of Mulcair or the federal gvt. The only question is; does Mulcair want to perpetuate Canada's status as 'hewers of wood and drawers of water'?