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temperance

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May I have some opinions on the facts of this article
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[FONT=Tahoma,Arial,Sans Serif][SIZE=+2]US makes grab to control Iraqi oil[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma,Arial,Sans Serif][SIZE=+1]New "hydrocarbon" law rushed through to give US oil companies control of Iraq's oil production.[/SIZE][/FONT]​
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Dateline: Saturday, January 27, 2007
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by Nicola Nasser
So far, the US occupation has caused more than 650,000 Iraqi deaths since March 2003, more than 34,000 United Nations deaths in 2006 only, more than 3,070 American deaths. It has also cost more than $600 billion of US taxpayer money. Now the real threat is emerging.
After listening to the monotonous and incredible US lies for four years about, "We are not there for Iraq's oil," the oil truth is now unfolding. Without a decisive military victory, the US occupation of Iraq seems to be about to grab its oil prize by establishing a new sharing arrangement between a major national producer and the multi-national giants, an arrangement that Washington plans to set as the model to be followed both by the oil-rich region and the world at large.
This prize has been the dream of the successive US administrations; on January 18, it came one step closer to reality when Iraq's Oil Committee approved the new draft hydrocarbon law and sent it to the Cabinet within a week. Once Cabinet approval is obtained, the new law will go to the parliament immediately thereafter.
The new law enshrines Production Sharing Agreements unprecedented in the Middle East.

The early draft of the law was prepared by BearingPoint American consultants, hired by the Bush administration, and sent to the White House and major western petroleum corporations in July, and then to the International Monetary Fund two months later. Most Iraqi legislators and public remained in the dark.
The approved production-sharing agreements (PSAs) favor investing foreign oil companies with 70 percent of oil revenue to recoup their initial outlay. After that, companies can reap 20 percent of the profit without any tax or other restrictions on their transfers abroad.
Several indicators have surfaced recently that bring the oil factor in Iraq back to the forefront of the public eye. The first has been Ankara's [Turkey] escalating drive to block Kurdish control of the northern Iraqi oil city of Kirkuk, lest Kirkuk's lucrative oil could be used to fund a bid for secession from Iraq that could encourage separatist Kurdish guerrillas in Turkey herself.
The second indicator is Iraq's push forward on oil developments with Iran and Kuwait with regard to determining control in the future of the cross-border oil fields, according to the Kuwait Times. Cross-border oil fields have been a cause of friction poisoning Iraq's relations with its eastern and southern neighbors.

A third indicator that the Iraqi oil file is being opened wide is the Iraqi-Syrian negotiations on the sidelines of the latest visit to Damascus by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, in order to reopen the oil pipeline between the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk and the Syrian coastal town of Banyas on the Mediterranean. This pipeline was reopened in 1997 and drew US disapproval; American air strikes damaged the Iraqi side of the pipeline at the start of the US-led invasion. Since then Washington was reported to favor reopening a Kirkuk-Haifa oil pipeline via Jordan, which was shut down after the creation of Israel in 1948.
The new Iraqi draft hydrocarbon law, if passed by the Iraqi parliament, would be a milestone for the US-British invasion. More important, it would determine the future network of relations between the oil-producing countries and the multi-national oil giants — most likely, to the detriment of the major consumers who will be held hostage to the whims of the American holders of the key to Middle Eastern vital oil resources.
President George W Bush in his "new Strategy" speech on January 10 sounded ambiguous and elusive in his definition of the success he is hunting in Iraq. "A successful strategy for Iraq goes beyond military operations," he said, adding: "Victory... in Iraq will bring something new in the Arab world." Bush stopped short of explicitly defining success and victory as economic, in framework that has an oil breakthrough at its core.

In his speech Bush referred only briefly twice to oil. A failure of the US in Iraq would enable the "Radical Islamic extremists" to "use oil revenues... to topple moderate governments" across the region, he warned. He also announced that "Iraq will pass legislation to share oil revenues among all Iraqis," without even a hint about any US interest, because he was very well aware of the hornet nest he would unleash had he prematurely even hinted at his oil prize.
The Republican-Democratic electoral wrangling, no matter how ferocious it was or would become over internal issues, could not overlap a "red line" consensus on never compromising the US national oil strategic interests, which both parties are determined to defend regardless of how much American or non-American blood they cost.
The bipartisan Iraq Study Group Report articulated that consensus concisely in a straightforward language. It is noteworthy that Bush (who ignored the essential recommendations of this report) nonetheless selectively adopted recommendations 62 and 63.
Recommendation 63 stipulates the US should "assist" Iraqi leaders in privatizing the national oil industry into a "commercial enterprise" to encourage investment by the multi-national oil companies. Recommendation 62 urges the US government to help draft an Iraqi oil law that "creates a fiscal and legal framework for investment" and, in conjunction with the International Monetary Fund [IMF], to "press Iraq to continue reducing subsidies in the energy sector... until Iraqis pay market prices for oil products."

The James Baker-Lee Hamilton Report proposes to make everyday life harder for average Iraqis so that the US oil industry profits.
The Bush administration, even before the 2003 invasion, planned to pass a new oil law for Iraq that would turn its nationalized oil system over to private foreign corporate control. Months after the US invasion of Iraq it was revealed that control of Iraq's oil fields was one of the chief issues discussed in Vice President Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force meeting with oil executives in 2001.
Bush made his first public demand in December that the Iraqi government pass the oil law. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, US ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad and General George W Casey Jr., the senior American commander in Iraq, repeated the same demand. In July last year, Energy Secretary Sam Bodman announced in Baghdad that senior US oil company executives would not enter Iraq without passage of the new law. Petroleum Economist magazine later reported that US oil companies put passage of the oil law before security concerns as the deciding factor over their entry into Iraq. Passing an oil law has been also a key demand of the United States in providing further military support to Baghdad's "national unity government. "
This law was in the works even months before the invasion, when the Bush Administration brought in Phillip Carroll, former CEO of both Shell and Fluor, to devise "contingency plans" to pump the Iraqi oil after the invasion; Carroll was made later the head of the American "advisory committee" overseeing the oil industry of the conquered land.

As Iraqi academic and senior lecturer in Middle East economics at the University of Exeter, Kamil Mahdi, wrote recently, the US, the IMF and the major oil giants are using fear to pursue their agenda of privatizing and selling off Iraq's oil resources. They are taking advantage of an occupied, war-ravaged and internally divided nation to get control over as much oil as possible, on the best possible terms, and to get what they were denied before the war or at anytime in modern Iraqi history: access to Iraq's oil under the ground.

Most Iraqis remain in the dark about the new oil law. Iraq's oil workers had to travel to Jordan to learn details of the law from the London-based research organization Platform. As a result, five Iraqi trade union federations released a public statement rejecting "the handing of control over oil to foreign companies, whose aim is to make big profits at the expense of the Iraqi people, and to rob the national wealth, according to long-term, unfair contracts, that undermine the sovereignty of the state and the dignity of the Iraqi people." The statement added that this was a "red line" they would not allow to be crossed.

Washington has been unsuccessfully trying to camouflage her oil prize in Iraq since its invasion in 2003. Similarly she can hardly now conceal the oil factor in her escalating crisis with Iran. "Weapons of mass destruction" or "links to Al Qaeda" were not the true reasons for the US-British invasion of Iraq, just as the real reason for the present US-Iran crisis is not about Iran's "nukes." In both cases regime change was the goal, which if achieved could give Washington an access to almost 20 percent of the world's proven Iraqi and Iranian oil reserves, respectively the third and fourth largest in the world.
Iraqi and Iranian oil reserves are targeted per se. Wresting these assets away from national decision-making would also give Washington control over about 60 percent of the world's conventional oil reserves located in essentially five countries in the Arabian Gulf region (described officially by Iran as "Persian"). Iran's close proximity to these major oil resources and her balancing power in controlling access to them have made her the second major obstacle (after Iraq) to block US control over them. In 2003, about 90 percent of oil exported from the Gulf travelled by tanker through the Strait of Hormuz, located between Oman and Iran.
The Iraqi bill would allow for the first foreign exploitation of Iraqi oil reserves since the industry was nationalized in 1972. The introduction of PSAs (Production Sharing Agreements) would also be a first in the Middle East. Washington wants the Iraqi law to be the rule that will apply across the oil-rich region as well as worldwide. Most members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) nationally control their oil industries through state-owned companies with no appreciable foreign collaboration.

Such an arrangement was impossible to pass through during the bi-polar world order, but has become possible following the collapse of the former USSR. Of course, the the American uni-polar power still needs to rein in the remnants of the ruling national liberation movements, or topple them.
Only within this context does the invasion and occupation of Iraq (as well as the current US-Iranian current crisis) make any sense. Since 1972 and 1979 respectively the US has been denied the banana-republics-styled free hand over Iraqi and Iranian oil assets. Iraq has been invaded and occupied; installing a new regime that would secure US control is still in the works. Meanwhile, Iran is being pressured and threatened with more sanctions and a military US strike to change the regime in Tehran.

The more vulnerable regional oil producers, as well as their counterparts in central Asia, would be wiser to do their best not to allow the draft Iraqi law to pass. It would become the future yardstick to determine their relations with the multi-national oil giants. They should also try to pre-empt a political and military environment (similar to the one prevailing now in Iraq) to be copied in Iran, which would inevitably lead to a gradual erosion or abrupt end to their beneficial current arrangements.
Voluntarily or grudgingly getting along with Bush's old or "new" strategies, would never spare them. They should think carefully about their strategy, because if Iraq was the first target, they are already lined up in the gun sights. Iran also should think carefully about Iraq because she is THE next target.
Major oil consumers in China, Japan and Europe should also be alert, to avert a possible US suffocating monopoly or hegemony on oil resources, at a time when their own (as well as the US) demand for oil is on the rise. Their economic competition or cooperation with the US will only be adversely compromised by Washington's grip on the vital mineral that is driving their industrial economies. Nicola Nasser is a veteran Arab journalist based in Ramallah, West Bank of the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories.
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Curiosity

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Temperence

My opinion isn't worth squat - because I am among the "dumb" of the south.....but as requested I will tender my thought on the article which is quite a flamer..... you should pull in some testy responses...

Consider the source which tells it all....
Nicola Nasser is a veteran Arab journalist based in Ramallah, West Bank of the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories.

The money spent on that hell hole Iraq would have been put to far better use in the U.S. economy in providing for alternative fuel energy rather than the ugly black crap sunk deep under arabian sand....
And we would have been spared the tremendous losses of more of our brave warriors who died young, and those whose remaining lives are forever among the disabled.

If you are still thinking oil is the answer..... you have about five years to catch up ... It is about a commitment and a promise to the people of Iraq. Apparently it still means something to the administration.

The cut and run advocates feel a handshake is only valid when the good times are rolling not when they get tough and ugly.
 

temperance

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Being Canadian I don't think Americans or anyone else for that matter should be called dumb
That was just Dumb, that Dumb post thing -I think it was so Dumb I wont even address the dumb post --We as Canadian might as well call ourselves Dumb we basically do follow almost to a T what America ms do --lol
 

Curiosity

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LOL Temperence

When I see the "dumb" word it stays around for a while in my "hurt feelings box".....

I'm a blonde....was born a cottonhead....grew up with white/blonde hair, and guess which word was
assigned me.... "dumb"

The trigger is still one I have a problem with. You are right.... I shouldn't continue the farce.... I could be dumb because I am 5'4" hahaha....

That topic was pretty dumb to wake up to wasn't it? I fell right into its seductive plot.....Art Bell would have been pleased.
 

jimmoyer

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Selective Cynicism

You know what's dumb ???

Not to be a cynic of both sides.

There are selective cynics who only believe in any story documenting America's hypocrisy
and pay little attention to other hypocrisy.

American hypocrisy is the most interesting and they'll all tell you why with a straight face.
 

temperance

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You made me really laugh ,a good chuckle --I feel dumb for not reading the post list before I asked for opinions on this article , I really feel Dumb-like


I totally know about the born with "dumb hair color "

Sometimes I use the Hair color dumb thing to my advantage --lol I feel a wee bit of guilt but it passes quickly
 

Curiosity

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LOL Temperence

Busted!

I use the dumb stuff all the time to ask for help, directions, getting information, and not doing a chore "I just can't master".......hehehe

Glad I'm not the only one....

JimMoyer

Dumb is a closed mind. Shuttered like some intellect might sneak in....

Being "righteously ignorant" is dumb.

Open ones like to examine all sides, poke at the thoughts, get lots of input and make a decision whether right or wrong... because we have to lose the fear of being wrong.... being wrong isn't dumb... it's just being wrong.
 

Kreskin

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If Toro hadn't started that thread it would'nt have been stuck around long.

LOL Temperence

When I see the "dumb" word it stays around for a while in my "hurt feelings box".....

I'm a blonde....was born a cottonhead....grew up with white/blonde hair, and guess which word was
assigned me.... "dumb"

The trigger is still one I have a problem with. You are right.... I shouldn't continue the farce.... I could be dumb because I am 5'4" hahaha....

That topic was pretty dumb to wake up to wasn't it? I fell right into its seductive plot.....Art Bell would have been pleased.
 

darkbeaver

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You know what's dumb ???

Not to be a cynic of both sides.

There are selective cynics who only believe in any story documenting America's hypocrisy
and pay little attention to other hypocrisy.

American hypocrisy is the most interesting and they'll all tell you why with a straight face.

You're right JimMoyer, American hypocrisy is the most interesting, and that's because it's supported by enough WMD's to destroy a dozen planets.:wave:
 

jimmoyer

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You're right JimMoyer, American hypocrisy is the most interesting, and that's because it's supported by enough WMD's to destroy a dozen planets.

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And there you have it folks.

With a straight face.

You got a righteous collar.
 

darkbeaver

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You're right JimMoyer, American hypocrisy is the most interesting, and that's because it's supported by enough WMD's to destroy a dozen planets.

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And there you have it folks.

With a straight face.

You got a righteous collar.

:laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::laughing7: as dog is my witness:laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::wave:
 

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None of us in this conversation are naieve. Just as soon as the military reached Baghdad the push was on to get the oil flwing again. But they released the Iraqi army and let them keep their weapons. That was mistake #1. Now they had about 600,000 armed and angry men roaming around with nothing to do, no job, no source of income and here comes another extremist into the picture who organizes their own militia and provides those recruits with a paycheck, meals and security every day and a fresh supply of clothing, medical attention and the other support a unemployed person needs. All the new emplyer requires is the strict compliance with the new rules. Simple and up jumps the insurgency. Made and placed in this position by the US. No wonder why the US has few friends abroad.
 

talloola

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None of us in this conversation are naieve. Just as soon as the military reached Baghdad the push was on to get the oil flwing again. But they released the Iraqi army and let them keep their weapons. That was mistake #1. Now they had about 600,000 armed and angry men roaming around with nothing to do, no job, no source of income and here comes another extremist into the picture who organizes their own militia and provides those recruits with a paycheck, meals and security every day and a fresh supply of clothing, medical attention and the other support a unemployed person needs. All the new emplyer requires is the strict compliance with the new rules. Simple and up jumps the insurgency. Made and placed in this position by the US. No wonder why the US has few friends abroad.

I remember it well. As soon as I saw the horrible looting and lack of any kind of discipline, I
realized that goerge bush had not planned for such things like security and policing, as I thought
he would automatically "have" that covered. Then the army was set loose, as you say. My mouth
hung open for days. Everything went downhill from there. I couldn't believe the lack of planning.
But now, that I have seen how he operates for the past few years, I understand it completely, he
is a pawn and an idiot for the republican "wheel", with dick cheney at the helm, behind the scenes.