On Route to Hawaii, Two Warships Lost
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The pirates aren't in Hawaiian waters. They're cruising Canada's Arctic coast.
Canadian sailors banging Wahines isn't a matter of Canadian national security.
Well I know where the fired officer from the Queen of the North landed a new job.
I would have liked to read the article but CBC News is blocked on our camp internet system.
I would have liked to read the article but CBC News is blocked on our camp internet system.
To be fare, we aren't constantly being brainwashed like Americans.
The USA spends trillions on propaganda alone, every year.
They can make you believe anything it would seem.
Perhaps this is just too simple of a way to look at it but....the ocean is really, really big....and ships are really, really small.......
Unfortunately it is a bit too simple. Take a look at say the Empress of Ireland, Titanic, Andrea Doria, Dona Paz, the Halifax Explosion, Costa Concordia and dozes of other disasters caused by collisions in varying circumstances throughout history. In nearly all of them one would think they all started out with enough room. Somehow they still manage to hit something whether it be another ship, a rock, iceberg etc. Apparently its not big enough out there.
Also judging by the article neither of the two ships were "lost."
To be perfectly honest, Ang, in some ways you are. Or at least were. The incredible suffering of Canada (and Australia/New Zealand) in World War I was simply insane. It was reflex loyalty to your former masters that caused you to jump into a war that had nothing to do with your interests.
I don't mean that as an insult, just a statement. It was a damn shame. Reading books/watching films about Canada's involvement in WWI is an incredibly sad experience.
my grandfather fought in that war and came home a bonafide alcoholic...my grandmother never understood so just added to the torture
In WWI, it was called "shell shock."
In WWII, it was called "battle fatigue."
Nowadays we call it "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder."
What it all means is that the human brain is not wired to witness, and participate in, industrial-scale warfare. This ain't "Horatio at the Bridge." Having been in a couple of skirmishes (nothing amounting to a real battle, believe me!), I can personally attest to what the pros have been saying all along. It f*cks you up. It ain't normal. It ain't sane.
I'm so sorry for your grandparents, Sal. I assume they've both found their peace by now. If there really is an "other side," I hope your Grandmother has found the happy, loving young man she married, with the scars of the War washed away.
Our dear leaders are fond of telling us deltas that Canada's automatic participation and dying by the bushel in this senseless war of imperialism for king and country somehow proved we were material for a truly independent nation.
Personally, I prefer Jack in the Beanstalk.
Despite the fact that I may occasionally become a little "U.S. belligerent," I really sympathise with the countries that stay the hell out of this. I see it as a sign that the species is slowly, painfully, haltingly maturing.
thanks Bones, I never met him only heard stories of him ... they are both long long dead. My mum was a kind woman and she took care of him when she could get over to him. My dad was a great great man in countless ways so I'm thinking he got the start of it from somewhere.
My mum's father died in that war and left a young widow of 28 with 3 young girls. My mum's stories about waiting for her dad to come home standing on the corner from morning to night broke my heart.
Sorry you were in that type of situation never good to be in the middle of violence. Even though we seem to have a warrior spirit I don't believe we are meant to spill another's blood unless we are in imminent danger and although war still places young men there it is not the same as battling for one's homeland like back in the day.
I grew up with constant discussions of WWll because my parents lived through that. I heard the glory spirit and talks my dad had with his buddies about how the battles should have been fought and that removed it and made it sound exciting. But I also heard constantly about black out curtains and a gas mask for my brother and little food and how after the bombs were dropped the pilots planes were light and they would spray the streets with bullets as they flew back and sometimes you could see them in the cockpits as they went by.
I have never been a fan of war. Never will be.
We all find our peace eventually.
You're very kind. Thank you.thanks Bones, I never met him only heard stories of him ... they are both long long dead. My mum was a kind woman and she took care of him when she could get over to him. My dad was a great great man in countless ways so I'm thinking he got the start of it from somewhere.
My mum's father died in that war and left a young widow of 28 with 3 young girls. My mum's stories about waiting for her dad to come home standing on the corner from morning to night broke my heart.
Sorry you were in that type of situation never good to be in the middle of violence. Even though we seem to have a warrior spirit I don't believe we are meant to spill another's blood unless we are in imminent danger and although war still places young men there it is not the same as battling for one's homeland like back in the day.
I grew up with constant discussions of WWll because my parents lived through that. I heard the glory spirit and talks my dad had with his buddies about how the battles should have been fought and that removed it and made it sound exciting. But I also heard constantly about black out curtains and a gas mask for my brother and little food and how after the bombs were dropped the pilots planes were light and they would spray the streets with bullets as they flew back and sometimes you could see them in the cockpits as they went by.
I have never been a fan of war. Never will be.
We all find our peace eventually.
Yeah, facing the enemy with a sword in your had seems to be built into the species. Getting wiped out or seeing a dozen men wiped out by a shell fired from five miles away, or a bomb dropped from five miles up, is a different experience. That's what I mean by "industrial warfare."
Sometimes it seems the only reason we've turned away from mass war is that we're now technologically capable of blowing up the entire planet. Not a very good reason, but any reason to dial down the violence is a good one.