Could it be a “forest for the trees” situation at least for a percentage of the American population?
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Could it be that the Democrats are almost as fucked in the head, but in other ways?
Your first tribe is always your family, and when you can't feed or house them, it's much easier to walk away from a political party.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that future talks on a settlement of the war in Ukraine (that Putin started) should focus on security guarantees for both countries and an overall framework for security throughout Europe.
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Putin, interviewed on Russian television a day after meeting US presidential Golf Buddy Steve Witkoff, confirmed that Russia was ready to resume US-mediated talks with Ukraine next month (after the US midterm elections). He restated longstanding Kremlin policy that Russia never wanted to launch a war, but had run into hostile reactions from Ukraine on key issues of concern (like a lack of capitulation) to Moscow.
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On Monday, President Trump said he would accept Mr. Putin’s invitation to meet next month with him and Chinese leader Xi Jinping to resolve the war in Ukraine. Notably absent from the confab would be Mr. Zelenskyy, whose country Mr. Putin is seeking to carve up and weaken.
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Many of the Ukraine war issues focus on territory, with Russia demanding Ukraine cede all of eastern Ukraine's Donbas region. Kyiv rejects any notion of giving up land it currently holds. In his comments, Putin said any discussion on territory in eastern Ukraine had to consider what he said was the fact that the area was "historically Russian land".
Under modern international law, imperial or historical ownership does not grant a country the right to rewrite modern sovereign borders. Ukraine’s borders were internationally recognized when it declared independence from the Soviet Union in 1991—a declaration that was backed by over 90% of Ukrainian voters, including strong majorities in the eastern oblasts.
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Furthermore, Russia explicitly committed to respecting and protecting Ukraine's existing borders in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal. Ultimately, Russia’s attempt to claim eastern Ukraine relies on a "might makes right" philosophy. On paper, the Kremlin has integrated these regions into its constitution; however, Russian forces have never fully controlled the four provinces they claim to own, making the annexation unrecognized both in international law and on the physical battlefield.
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Putin rebuilds Russia’s military arsenal near NATO borders as expert warns, 'The next six to nine months will be truly dramatic,' raising fears of a wider confrontation — Knewz
Russia is adding tanks and artillery to military depots depleted during its war in Ukraine, including a storage site about 115 miles from Finland, a NATO member.
German military ‘classifies threat of Russian sabotage as significant for first time’ — The Independent
Germany's military has officially raised its assessment of the threat of Russian sabotage against its personnel and facilities to "significant", marking the second-highest threat level for the first time.
As midterms near and Putin beckons, Trump embraces big-power diplomacy — The Christian Science Monitor
President Donald Trump is signaling a full-on embrace of Vladimir Putin and Russia – and of big-power relations – as he faces adverse midterm results and a potential lame-duck presidency.
Under modern international law, imperial or historical ownership does not grant a country the right to rewrite modern sovereign borders. Ukraine’s borders were internationally recognized when it declared independence from the Soviet Union in 1991—a declaration that was backed by over 90% of Ukrainian voters, including strong majorities in the eastern oblasts.
Trump’s diesel deal derailed Ukraine-Russia peace progress, says Czech president — The Hill
Czech President Petr Pavel on Tuesday said President Trump’s diesel deal with Russia derailed peace talks between the Kremlin and Ukraine, saying both sides were “so close” to a ceasefire.
Putin says talks must focus on security for Russia, Ukraine and Europe overall — Reuters
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that future talks on a settlement of the war in Ukraine should focus on security guarantees for both countries and an overall framework for security throughout Europe.
US first lady Melania Trump has secured a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine in the Russian-controlled city of Oleshky, which will begin on October 29, the White House said on Friday?
I wonder if either Russia or Ukraine are aware of this?
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In an interview with Kremlin journalist Pavel Zarubin, Putin stated that Russians and Ukrainians share genetic and historical unity. He argued that Ukrainian territories annexed by Russia—such as Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Donetsk, and Luhansk—are the "historical territory of Russia" rather than true Ukrainian land. Putin did not name the scientific works or provide any specific data or evidence to back up his genetic assertions.
The remarks align with Putin's longstanding narrative, including his 2021 essay On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians, which claims that modern Ukrainian identity and statehood are artificial creations similiar to Trump’s claims about the Canadian border and sovereignty.
I wonder if either Russia or Ukraine are aware of this?
Russia, Ukraine agree to Oleshky ceasefire brokered by Melania Trump, White House says — Reuters
US first lady Melania Trump has secured a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine in the Russian-controlled city of Oleshky, which will begin on October 29, the White House said on Friday.
The remarks align with Putin's longstanding narrative, including his 2021 essay On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians, which claims that modern Ukrainian identity and statehood are artificial creations similiar to Trump’s claims about the Canadian border and sovereignty.
Putin has proposed a meeting with Trump and Xi Jinping to settle the Ukraine war on Russian terms without the presence of the troublesome Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The Wall Street Journal described such a meeting as “unprecedented”. As a historical matter, that would be untrue. The Czechs were not present at Munich when their country was delivered to Hitler
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Part of Trump’s urgent reason for selling out Ukraine is to cast blame before the midterm elections for the inflation wrought by his tariffs and Iran war. Panicked by plunging polls, he has ramped up his rhetoric against Zelenskyy as the alleged source of the crisis that Trump himself has created.
Another part according to Fiona Hill, who served as Trump’s director for Russian affairs on the national security council in his first term, has described Trump as awestruck in his relationship with Putin. Trump envied him as the “ultimate badass”. She observed how Trump’s pathetic need to be seen as a peer to the autocrat allowed him to be played like a fiddle.
At the 2018 Helsinki summit, she was horrified when Trump dismissed the findings of the US intelligence community that Russia had interfered in the presidential election of 2016 on his behalf, deferring to Putin by saying: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
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.Part of Trump’s urgent reason for selling out Ukraine is to cast blame before the midterm elections for the inflation wrought by his tariffs and Iran war. Panicked by plunging polls, he has ramped up his rhetoric against Zelenskyy as the alleged source of the crisis that Trump himself has created.
Another part according to Fiona Hill, who served as Trump’s director for Russian affairs on the national security council in his first term, has described Trump as awestruck in his relationship with Putin. Trump envied him as the “ultimate badass”. She observed how Trump’s pathetic need to be seen as a peer to the autocrat allowed him to be played like a fiddle.
At the 2018 Helsinki summit, she was horrified when Trump dismissed the findings of the US intelligence community that Russia had interfered in the presidential election of 2016 on his behalf, deferring to Putin by saying: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Opinion | The Trump-Putin love story’s next chapter: selling out Ukraine — Guardian US
The US president is portraying Zelenskyy as the villain as he strives for Russia’s approval
Trump doesnt want to be blamed for a global depression due to an energy crisis even though this was on Bibi.Putin has proposed a meeting with Trump and Xi Jinping to settle the Ukraine war on Russian terms without the presence of the troublesome Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The Wall Street Journal described such a meeting as “unprecedented”. As a historical matter, that would be untrue. The Czechs were not present at Munich when their country was delivered to Hitler
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Part of Trump’s urgent reason for selling out Ukraine is to cast blame before the midterm elections for the inflation wrought by his tariffs and Iran war. Panicked by plunging polls, he has ramped up his rhetoric against Zelenskyy as the alleged source of the crisis that Trump himself has created.
Another part according to Fiona Hill, who served as Trump’s director for Russian affairs on the national security council in his first term, has described Trump as awestruck in his relationship with Putin. Trump envied him as the “ultimate badass”. She observed how Trump’s pathetic need to be seen as a peer to the autocrat allowed him to be played like a fiddle.
At the 2018 Helsinki summit, she was horrified when Trump dismissed the findings of the US intelligence community that Russia had interfered in the presidential election of 2016 on his behalf, deferring to Putin by saying: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Opinion | The Trump-Putin love story’s next chapter: selling out Ukraine — Guardian US
The US president is portraying Zelenskyy as the villain as he strives for Russia’s approval
It started. By spring the entire globe is fucked. He needs Russian oil flowing.
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Good times. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said on Thursday that four vessels involved in illegal oil transfers in the northern Persian Gulf were simultaneously hit and caught fire after being tracked by its forces on Wednesday. Geography is on Iran’s side as it can fire at ships in the Strait of Hormuz from ground positions along its coast. It can also place sea mines in the strait using rockets to drop them, so it doesn’t even need a navy to fight this sea battle. 
As predicted decades in advance, the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and Oman, which had been freely open to international shipping before the war, now gives Tehran a means of imposing costs far beyond its borders. Donald Trump’s fuel agreement with Vladimir Putin cannot offset the lost oil and diesel caused by the conflict in the Middle East.Energy experts and market analysts point to major mathematical and logistical deficits that make the deal largely symbolic rather than a true fix for the global energy crisis. with subsequent planned shipments—500,000 metric tons in November and a potential 1 million tons afterward—the amounts remain too insignificant to close the massive gap left by disrupted Middle Eastern supply lines, so this is smoke & mirrors to normalize Russian trade for other reasons.
The IRGC added that three more vessels collided with mines west of the Strait of Hormuz, and warned the US military that continued provocations could lead to a wider response against its regional bases.
The Trump administration has claimed that the entire series of strikes is fabricated (fake news?) or at least exaggerated, with Trump himself lashing out on Truth Social and saying, “They are making up fake hits, mines, and everything else because more oil is coming through the Hormuz Strait now than it did even prior to the beginning of the conflict.”
Iran's IRGC Navy says seven vessels hit, warns US of wider response — Reuters
Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said on Thursday that four vessels involved in illegal oil transfers in the northern Persian Gulf were simultaneously hit and caught fire after being tracked by its forces on Wednesday.
Unlike in February before the war began, the US and Iran would be fighting it out on several different fronts if attacks resume, with Hezbollah’s retaliation against targets in northern Israel after the killing of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in the first US-Israeli air strikes brought Lebanon into the war in early March. A mounting global energy crisis was not on the cards in February, but it is certainly looming now, so this is ‘obviously’ the fault of Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.
The biggest geographical change, however, has been the emergence of the Gulf’s waterways and energy infrastructure as key targets. Iranian attacks on US military assets and civilian infrastructure have exposed Gulf countries to the consequences of a war they had hoped to avoid. While the Gulf has experienced attacks before, the scale and “velocity” of recent Iranian strikes, including on oil and gas infrastructure, have marked a significant shift.
Renewed fighting between the forces of the Saudi-backed, internationally recognised government of Yemen and the Iran-backed Houthis has added another front to the regional crisis.
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While the US has demonstrated its ability to strike deep inside Iran (hit & retreat), that destructive capacity has not brought down Iran’s political system nor has it finished off Tehran’s ability to retaliate with strikes on US assets and energy infrastructure in neighbouring countries, demonstrating the difficulty for Washington in “translating military superiority into strategic results”.Trump, who is the leader of the Republican Party, has suggested that he may renew all-out fighting with Iran after the midterm vote next month, and he has promoted the war as a historic success with the increased cost of energy and transportation that has trickled down to the entire economy globally fuelling inflation at a time when affordability had become one of the key issues in US electoral politics.
“I think it’s one of the greatest things we’ve done. We’ve stopped Iran from having a nuclear weapon,” that Trump himself had said repeatedly that Iran’s nuclear programme had been “obliterated” by the June 2025 US strikes against the country’s uranium enrichment facilities, told reporters on Wednesday. US intelligence officials have testified to Congress that they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. “It’s one of the best things that we’ve done, and it took a lot of courage to do it because no other president was willing to do it.” Despite the overall unpopularity of the war, most Republicans continue to support it.Iran Says Forget the Midterms, the War Is Back on NOW — Jezebel
Iran has set off a new wave of attacks on oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, not content to wait for the US to attack after midterms.
Or at least, that’s what Trump has often claimed, saying things like “I believe we’ll make a deal right after the election,” and “I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence to the election when it comes to Iran; it doesn’t even enter my mind.” It would have a certain logic for the Iranians to figure that if they’re just sitting around waiting for the U.S. to renew its strikes after the midterms, they may as well take the initiative to strike first, before the midterms. Iran clearly had no intention of participating in that campaign to give Republicans the best possible shot to hold off a surging blue wave. You don’t need to look any farther than the price of a barrel of Brent Crude to see that.
What navy? Wasnt it gone day 1?View attachment 36026Good times. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said on Thursday that four vessels involved in illegal oil transfers in the northern Persian Gulf were simultaneously hit and caught fire after being tracked by its forces on Wednesday. Geography is on Iran’s side as it can fire at ships in the Strait of Hormuz from ground positions along its coast. It can also place sea mines in the strait using rockets to drop them, so it doesn’t even need a navy to fight this sea battle.
View attachment 36029As predicted decades in advance, the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and Oman, which had been freely open to international shipping before the war, now gives Tehran a means of imposing costs far beyond its borders. Donald Trump’s fuel agreement with Vladimir Putin cannot offset the lost oil and diesel caused by the conflict in the Middle East.
Energy experts and market analysts point to major mathematical and logistical deficits that make the deal largely symbolic rather than a true fix for the global energy crisis. with subsequent planned shipments—500,000 metric tons in November and a potential 1 million tons afterward—the amounts remain too insignificant to close the massive gap left by disrupted Middle Eastern supply lines, so this is smoke & mirrors to normalize Russian trade for other reasons.
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The IRGC added that three more vessels collided with mines west of the Strait of Hormuz, and warned the US military that continued provocations could lead to a wider response against its regional bases.
The Trump administration has claimed that the entire series of strikes is fabricated (fake news?) or at least exaggerated, with Trump himself lashing out on Truth Social and saying, “They are making up fake hits, mines, and everything else because more oil is coming through the Hormuz Strait now than it did even prior to the beginning of the conflict.”
Although analysts consider a US attack before the November 3 midterm elections unlikely, sabre-rattling on both sides has raised fears that escalating rhetoric could give way to renewed attacks with control of the Strait of Hormuz and Iranian nuclear facilities in which talks over Iran’s nuclear programme were under way at the end of February are at the heart of the conflict.Trump faces much tougher political pressure before any renewed strikes.
Iran's IRGC Navy says seven vessels hit, warns US of wider response — Reuters
Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said on Thursday that four vessels involved in illegal oil transfers in the northern Persian Gulf were simultaneously hit and caught fire after being tracked by its forces on Wednesday.
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Unlike in February before the war began, the US and Iran would be fighting it out on several different fronts if attacks resume, with Hezbollah’s retaliation against targets in northern Israel after the killing of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in the first US-Israeli air strikes brought Lebanon into the war in early March. A mounting global energy crisis was not on the cards in February, but it is certainly looming now, so this is ‘obviously’ the fault of Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.
The biggest geographical change, however, has been the emergence of the Gulf’s waterways and energy infrastructure as key targets. Iranian attacks on US military assets and civilian infrastructure have exposed Gulf countries to the consequences of a war they had hoped to avoid. While the Gulf has experienced attacks before, the scale and “velocity” of recent Iranian strikes, including on oil and gas infrastructure, have marked a significant shift.
Renewed fighting between the forces of the Saudi-backed, internationally recognised government of Yemen and the Iran-backed Houthis has added another front to the regional crisis.
View attachment 36032Yemen’s war has expanded to Saudi Arabia as Houthi missile and drone attacks target Saudi airports and oil infrastructure. Almost immediately after Israel and the US started attacking Iran on February 28, Tehran began disrupting the flow of energy products through the Strait of Hormuz – sending oil and gas prices skyrocketing, and now there’s another choke point of a strait in the Middle EastIran–Saudi Arabia relations - Wikipedia
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View attachment 36030While the US has demonstrated its ability to strike deep inside Iran (hit & retreat), that destructive capacity has not brought down Iran’s political system nor has it finished off Tehran’s ability to retaliate with strikes on US assets and energy infrastructure in neighbouring countries, demonstrating the difficulty for Washington in “translating military superiority into strategic results”.
Trump, who is the leader of the Republican Party, has suggested that he may renew all-out fighting with Iran after the midterm vote next month, and he has promoted the war as a historic success with the increased cost of energy and transportation that has trickled down to the entire economy globally fuelling inflation at a time when affordability had become one of the key issues in US electoral politics.
View attachment 36031“I think it’s one of the greatest things we’ve done. We’ve stopped Iran from having a nuclear weapon,” that Trump himself had said repeatedly that Iran’s nuclear programme had been “obliterated” by the June 2025 US strikes against the country’s uranium enrichment facilities, told reporters on Wednesday. US intelligence officials have testified to Congress that they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. “It’s one of the best things that we’ve done, and it took a lot of courage to do it because no other president was willing to do it.” Despite the overall unpopularity of the war, most Republicans continue to support it.
Trump has seemingly instructed the Pentagon to more or less curtail its aggressive forays within Iran, maybe hoping that if he simply runs out the clock to some kind of Republican midterm victory (or a draw, like retaining the Senate) that Iran will be more receptive to new talks after the election.
Iran Says Forget the Midterms, the War Is Back on NOW — Jezebel
Iran has set off a new wave of attacks on oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, not content to wait for the US to attack after midterms.
Or at least, that’s what Trump has often claimed, saying things like “I believe we’ll make a deal right after the election,” and “I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence to the election when it comes to Iran; it doesn’t even enter my mind.” It would have a certain logic for the Iranians to figure that if they’re just sitting around waiting for the U.S. to renew its strikes after the midterms, they may as well take the initiative to strike first, before the midterms. Iran clearly had no intention of participating in that campaign to give Republicans the best possible shot to hold off a surging blue wave. You don’t need to look any farther than the price of a barrel of Brent Crude to see that.
Speaking of elections...
Hes got a week to really fuck things up.
If they (Iran) had one or didn’t have one, and if it was gone on day one or not, it hasn’t made a whole hell of a lot of difference is what I was trying to say above.